From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Jul 25 17:21:55 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, July 26 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3385 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! Re: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! Re: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style Re: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style Re: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style thought you might enjoy these: BBC's Top Gear attempts to kill a Diesel Toyota: - ---------------------------------------------------- part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=793CABDF042A9514 part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM&NR=1 part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk&NR=1 turning a toyota into a toybota: - ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzxuEOxYSLE then across the english channel: - ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTVPPTV-bQM ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:26:59 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... > From: deichert-at-wrench.com I remember wanting one, 'cause my > 6'3" frame didn't fit very well in the 83's I had< this is funny! my son 6'2" has a friend of the same size (220lbs) who bought a smart.... when they both got out of the smart at the gas station people were really looking.... and thought that it was some sort of commercial! Michel (6'0" and only 155lbs) _________________________________________________________________ Bing^Y brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... I love hanging around with tall people... they provide nice shade... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Michel Balea wrote: # > From: deichert-at-wrench.com # I remember wanting one, 'cause my # > 6'3" frame didn't fit very well in the 83's I had< # # this is funny! my son 6'2" has a friend of the same size (220lbs) who bought a # smart.... when they both got out of the smart at the gas station people were # really looking.... and thought that it was some sort of commercial! # # Michel # (6'0" and only 155lbs) # # _________________________________________________________________ # Bing^Y brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. # http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML # OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:31:02 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... Keeps your lunatic fringe from having a red topper too! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:30:52 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > CC: deichert-at-wrench.com; DZAshby-at-comcast.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... > > I love hanging around with tall people... > they provide nice shade... :) > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Michel Balea wrote: > > # > From: deichert-at-wrench.com > # I remember wanting one, 'cause my > # > 6'3" frame didn't fit very well in the 83's I had< > # > # this is funny! my son 6'2" has a friend of the same size (220lbs) who bought a > # smart.... when they both got out of the smart at the gas station people were > # really looking.... and thought that it was some sort of commercial! > # > # Michel > # (6'0" and only 155lbs) > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # Bing^Y brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. > # http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML > # OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 > # _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web^Rs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:26:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert Subject: RE: fsj: Diesel 4x4 question... On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Michel Balea wrote: > > >> From: deichert-at-wrench.com > I remember wanting one, 'cause my >> 6'3" frame didn't fit very well in the 83's I had< > > this is funny! my son 6'2" has a friend of the same size > (220lbs) who bought a smart.... when they both got out of > the smart at the gas station people were really looking.... > and thought that it was some sort of commercial! > > Michel > (6'0" and only 155lbs) Chuckle, you should have seen me in high school riding around in a friends MG Midget. I didn't fit in it with the top up, good thing we never rolled it, especially theway we drove back then. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:12:54 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! niiiice. it's about time! sounds like you've gotten some momentum just as my j-truck project has stalled out again. (working full-bore on 'hopefully' completing the exterior finishes on my whole-house remodel and addition) btw, if you're ever in the market for the window guides that are located on the leading edge of all front FSJ door glass (the guide that is actually attached to the rear of the vent window assembly), i am in production of those as we speak. BJ's will be my retailer. AFAIK, i'm the only source for them anywhere. good luck with Superdawg! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" To: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: fsj: superdawg project in full swing! > these pictures just in from Centralia: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/superdawg-2009/ALL.html > > superdawg has been found, rolled out, uncovered, and is back in work... > > The frame is being sandblasted, the bed liner originally sprayed on the > frame a few years ago didn't hold up... will be reshot with epoxy. > > Curtis has the body prepped for paint, starts spraying next week, guess > he's robbing a train this weekend... (annual event here in Western Washington > involving historic steam trains... maybe he'll share some of those pictures. ;) > > The first pictures show the SD33T on the pallet, unable to make it work, > the Injection Pump was left stored out in the open in Idaho for too long, > have two more and will eventually get it working... engine turns over and > the turbo is ok... will drag the pallet back up to my shop and assemble it > and fire it before pulling the 4.2. Not sure how long before I do that... > daughter's wedding next month... > > just need a few more pieces to put the SD33T/TF727 and NP208 together to eventually > replace the 4.2/T-5/NP208 that will be going into superdawg ('83 J10 Stepside). > > You can also see the '80 J10 that provided the donor engine and axles. And > all the XJ parts, and a few Mercedes parts... the bed is filled with years > worth of gathering... have brought some of the XJ parts back home. :) > > We robbed superdawg's model 20 rear axle for the hydraulic dump trailer so we > could setup surge disk brakes... working well... the added benefit to doing > that is the fact that superdawg went from 3.31 gears to 3.54s. Will help > in traffic without hurting freeway mileage. And, it works out as the same > gearing setup as the '80 Scout's with the SD33T, with the J10 being slightly > lighter than the Scout, so even better economy is expected. > > anyway, progress... real progress... getting back to basics restarted the > project... over the last 8 years curtis and I kept brainstorming and coming > up with wilder and wilder ideas on what to do with the dawg... those plans > have included extending the cab and all kinds of wild ideas that were so far > beyond our tools, time, and budget that things kind of stagnated, and of > course you know how I never ever change my mind... ;) > > Not sure when I'll get rid of the '86 cj-10a... I am tempted to use the > TF727/NP208 out of it and drop something else in it, like a 4.0/AW4 out > of an XJ. Of course there is always the temptation to figure out how > to mate a Mercedes 602/603 or 617 to my T-5 in J10... they are significantly > lighter than the SD33T and a lot smoother and more powerful... How > hard can it be to make the adapter and figure out a clutch setup? Of course > I'd much prefer using an AW4 but that just makes the whole swap more complex... > which brings me back to just making the proven SD33T/TF727/NP208 scenario work... > > butter for that popcorn? > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! excellent... as far as I know I'm the only source for the stepside fiberglass rear fenders too... not sure if bj will carry them or not, very low demand. ;) I purchased those guides for superdawg after I got him... it's been 9 years so my source may have dried up... be happy to buy from Bj's... he's got a nice operation. nice shop setup too... been over to his place a couple of times. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: # niiiice. # it's about time! # # sounds like you've gotten some momentum just as my j-truck project has # stalled out again. (working full-bore on 'hopefully' completing the # exterior finishes on my whole-house remodel and addition) # # btw, if you're ever in the market for the window guides that are located on # the leading edge of all front FSJ door glass (the guide that is actually # attached to the rear of the vent window assembly), i am in production of # those as we speak. BJ's will be my retailer. # AFAIK, i'm the only source for them anywhere. # # good luck with Superdawg! # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "diesel john" # To: # Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:41 PM # Subject: fsj: superdawg project in full swing! # # # > these pictures just in from Centralia: # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/superdawg-2009/ALL.html # > # > superdawg has been found, rolled out, uncovered, and is back in work... # > # > The frame is being sandblasted, the bed liner originally sprayed on the # > frame a few years ago didn't hold up... will be reshot with epoxy. # > # > Curtis has the body prepped for paint, starts spraying next week, guess # > he's robbing a train this weekend... (annual event here in Western # Washington # > involving historic steam trains... maybe he'll share some of those # pictures. ;) # > # > The first pictures show the SD33T on the pallet, unable to make it work, # > the Injection Pump was left stored out in the open in Idaho for too long, # > have two more and will eventually get it working... engine turns over and # > the turbo is ok... will drag the pallet back up to my shop and assemble # it # > and fire it before pulling the 4.2. Not sure how long before I do that... # > daughter's wedding next month... # > # > just need a few more pieces to put the SD33T/TF727 and NP208 together to # eventually # > replace the 4.2/T-5/NP208 that will be going into superdawg ('83 J10 # Stepside). # > # > You can also see the '80 J10 that provided the donor engine and axles. # And # > all the XJ parts, and a few Mercedes parts... the bed is filled with years # > worth of gathering... have brought some of the XJ parts back home. :) # > # > We robbed superdawg's model 20 rear axle for the hydraulic dump trailer so # we # > could setup surge disk brakes... working well... the added benefit to # doing # > that is the fact that superdawg went from 3.31 gears to 3.54s. Will help # > in traffic without hurting freeway mileage. And, it works out as the same # > gearing setup as the '80 Scout's with the SD33T, with the J10 being # slightly # > lighter than the Scout, so even better economy is expected. # > # > anyway, progress... real progress... getting back to basics restarted the # > project... over the last 8 years curtis and I kept brainstorming and # coming # > up with wilder and wilder ideas on what to do with the dawg... those # plans # > have included extending the cab and all kinds of wild ideas that were so # far # > beyond our tools, time, and budget that things kind of stagnated, and of # > course you know how I never ever change my mind... ;) # > # > Not sure when I'll get rid of the '86 cj-10a... I am tempted to use the # > TF727/NP208 out of it and drop something else in it, like a 4.0/AW4 out # > of an XJ. Of course there is always the temptation to figure out how # > to mate a Mercedes 602/603 or 617 to my T-5 in J10... they are # significantly # > lighter than the SD33T and a lot smoother and more powerful... How # > hard can it be to make the adapter and figure out a clutch setup? Of # course # > I'd much prefer using an AW4 but that just makes the whole swap more # complex... # > which brings me back to just making the proven SD33T/TF727/NP208 scenario # work... # > # > butter for that popcorn? # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:04:39 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style diesel john said: {- BBC's Top Gear attempts to kill a Diesel Toyota: {- ---------------------------------------------------- {- part 1 {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk {- {- part 2 {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM&NR=1 {- {- part 3 {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk&NR=1 That is truly one of the great classics. I didn't realize the official Top Gear youtube channel had posted those. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, good -- my dog found the chainsaw. -- Lilo - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: killing a Toyota, BBC style didn't notice that either, good promotion for the series, much better on the telly... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Dan Black wrote: # diesel john said: # {- BBC's Top Gear attempts to kill a Diesel Toyota: # {- ---------------------------------------------------- # {- part 1 # {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk # {- # {- part 2 # {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM&NR=1 # {- # {- part 3 # {- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk&NR=1 # # That is truly one of the great classics. # # I didn't realize the official Top Gear youtube channel had posted those. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Oh, good -- my dog found the chainsaw. # -- Lilo # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:26:05 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! kewl! got any pics of those fenders? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: superdawg project in full swing! > excellent... as far as I know I'm the only source for the stepside fiberglass > rear fenders too... not sure if bj will carry them or not, very low demand. ;) > > I purchased those guides for superdawg after I got him... it's been 9 years > so my source may have dried up... be happy to buy from Bj's... he's > got a nice operation. nice shop setup too... been over to his place > a couple of times. > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: > > # niiiice. > # it's about time! > # > # sounds like you've gotten some momentum just as my j-truck project has > # stalled out again. (working full-bore on 'hopefully' completing the > # exterior finishes on my whole-house remodel and addition) > # > # btw, if you're ever in the market for the window guides that are located on > # the leading edge of all front FSJ door glass (the guide that is actually > # attached to the rear of the vent window assembly), i am in production of > # those as we speak. BJ's will be my retailer. > # AFAIK, i'm the only source for them anywhere. > # > # good luck with Superdawg! > # > # Neal A. Hoover > # Project '76 J-10 > # Project '96 XJ > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > # > # > # ----- Original Message ----- > # From: "diesel john" > # To: > # Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:41 PM > # Subject: fsj: superdawg project in full swing! > # > # > # > these pictures just in from Centralia: > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/superdawg-2009/ALL.html > # > > # > superdawg has been found, rolled out, uncovered, and is back in work... > # > > # > The frame is being sandblasted, the bed liner originally sprayed on the > # > frame a few years ago didn't hold up... will be reshot with epoxy. > # > > # > Curtis has the body prepped for paint, starts spraying next week, guess > # > he's robbing a train this weekend... (annual event here in Western > # Washington > # > involving historic steam trains... maybe he'll share some of those > # pictures. ;) > # > > # > The first pictures show the SD33T on the pallet, unable to make it work, > # > the Injection Pump was left stored out in the open in Idaho for too long, > # > have two more and will eventually get it working... engine turns over and > # > the turbo is ok... will drag the pallet back up to my shop and assemble > # it > # > and fire it before pulling the 4.2. Not sure how long before I do that... > # > daughter's wedding next month... > # > > # > just need a few more pieces to put the SD33T/TF727 and NP208 together to > # eventually > # > replace the 4.2/T-5/NP208 that will be going into superdawg ('83 J10 > # Stepside). > # > > # > You can also see the '80 J10 that provided the donor engine and axles. > # And > # > all the XJ parts, and a few Mercedes parts... the bed is filled with years > # > worth of gathering... have brought some of the XJ parts back home. :) > # > > # > We robbed superdawg's model 20 rear axle for the hydraulic dump trailer so > # we > # > could setup surge disk brakes... working well... the added benefit to > # doing > # > that is the fact that superdawg went from 3.31 gears to 3.54s. Will help > # > in traffic without hurting freeway mileage. And, it works out as the same > # > gearing setup as the '80 Scout's with the SD33T, with the J10 being > # slightly > # > lighter than the Scout, so even better economy is expected. > # > > # > anyway, progress... real progress... getting back to basics restarted the > # > project... over the last 8 years curtis and I kept brainstorming and > # coming > # > up with wilder and wilder ideas on what to do with the dawg... those > # plans > # > have included extending the cab and all kinds of wild ideas that were so > # far > # > beyond our tools, time, and budget that things kind of stagnated, and of > # > course you know how I never ever change my mind... ;) > # > > # > Not sure when I'll get rid of the '86 cj-10a... I am tempted to use the > # > TF727/NP208 out of it and drop something else in it, like a 4.0/AW4 out > # > of an XJ. Of course there is always the temptation to figure out how > # > to mate a Mercedes 602/603 or 617 to my T-5 in J10... they are > # significantly > # > lighter than the SD33T and a lot smoother and more powerful... How > # > hard can it be to make the adapter and figure out a clutch setup? Of > # course > # > I'd much prefer using an AW4 but that just makes the whole swap more > # complex... > # > which brings me back to just making the proven SD33T/TF727/NP208 scenario > # work... > # > > # > butter for that popcorn? > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3385 **************************