From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jul 31 08:22:48 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, July 31 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3390 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: weather in Seattle RE: fsj: Found another sweet condition Jtruck for sale! (and update) fsj: doors? RE: fsj: doors? fsj: parting '83 J10 longbox (Compressor not included!) RE: fsj: doors? Re: fsj: doors? Re: fsj: doors? RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:49:18 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: weather in Seattle When it gets real cold this winter I will be using a dry suit (scuba) so I can keep warm! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > From: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: weather in Seattle > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:46:28 +0000 > > Just heard it..... 97 in Seattle. I almost took a pict of my outfit for > working on the Jeep in San Fran, it was 53 and I had to put on my old ski > outfit: fleece, capilene underwear, ski cap and overall... and it was barely > warm. At least you do not breath the solvents. > > I broke one the stud -rusted- for the EGR valve (probably semi-open most of > the time which is one of the reason of my idle vibration), and had to devise > an emergency repair. Now the engine is barely noticeable, a bit like driving a > prius. > > cheers and good luck to John for fighting his allergies. > > Michel > 74wag > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live^Y Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. > Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL > _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:15:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Found another sweet condition Jtruck for sale! (and update) that's not that far.. shake roof with a wraparound porches are cool too. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # You realize my cabin is only 35 miles from your place? I'm less than 10 from # you too! Lol! # # > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:41:54 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > CC: fsj-list-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: Found another sweet condition Jtruck for sale! (and # update) # > # > going to terrace your property? # > # > used to be able to rent cats and backhoes from a place in clearview... # > # > know of a couple folks with equipment, not sure if they'd want to go # > all the way out there... # > # > was going to ask how hot it got up in the mountains... guess I know now. # :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # Sadly, he wants Wagonmaster price for it $5800, but it is immaculate and # one # > # owner since new. Wouldn't be quite so high, but he recently paid out # $3500 to # > # get the TH400/QT upgraded and it's a factory 401 rig. (brand new carb # too) # > # I have to concentrate on finishing my '84 J10 that's been on the back # > # burner since '02 (drivetrain is in and all I need now is to do the wiring # of # > # the 4.0L EFI, AW4 and NV241 from a Rubicon and finish the brake upgrades # on # > # the J20 axles) but first I have to get a well in at my property so I can # get a # > # loan to cover the shop and upgrades I want to do. (that way this winter # > # nothing will stop me from working on my toys, especially the weather!) # > # Finally got a guy brave enough to clear my parking area in this heat # (it # > # hit 105 yesterday) so today I'll play musical cars and get everything # moved # > # away from where the well will be put in. # > # # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. 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See how. # http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: doors? where we're going, we don't need doors... ...went on a WVO* run, sans doors... left the house around 6pm, only 85 deg or so, cooled down to less than 75 by the time we got back... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Jul_30_wvo-run-NO-DOORS/ * - WVO = waste veggie oil... see the buckets and plastic containers in the back? there's about 40 gallons or so of used cooking oil picked up from several resturaunts in the area... it's converted to bioDiesel and run in the '86 cj-10a and the '91 300D... thought about using the '99 WJ to pick this up and decided driving with no doors to stay cool made more sense than messing up the back of the WJ or the trunk of the benz. :) the plan is to get my '83 J10 stepside converted to Diesel and make these runs for WVO with a/c... :) actually thinking about putting a tank in the back with a filter setup and pour it straight in and heat it... but that's a long term dream... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:01:12 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: doors? Taking a chance? Snohomish cops are busting people for no doors as of June 1 '09 when the Supreme court upheld the "doors required" law. > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:03:46 -0700 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: > Subject: fsj: doors? > > where we're going, we don't need doors... > > > ...went on a WVO* run, sans doors... left the house around 6pm, only 85 deg or so, > cooled down to less than 75 by the time we got back... > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Jul_30_wvo-run-NO-DOORS/ > > > * - WVO = waste veggie oil... see the buckets and plastic containers > in the back? there's about 40 gallons or so of used cooking oil picked > up from several resturaunts in the area... it's converted to bioDiesel and > run in the '86 cj-10a and the '91 300D... thought about using the '99 WJ > to pick this up and decided driving with no doors to stay cool made more > sense than messing up the back of the WJ or the trunk of the benz. :) > > the plan is to get my '83 J10 stepside converted to Diesel and make these > runs for WVO with a/c... :) actually thinking about putting a tank in the > back with a filter setup and pour it straight in and heat it... but that's > a long term dream... ;) > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web^Rs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:37:20 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: parting '83 J10 longbox (Compressor not included!) Don't know what all would be left that anyone would be interested in, but the whole body is coming off the frame (box and cab are headed to Canada. Front clip, doors and and rear axle are going to my '82 Honcho) and the 4.2L 6 cyl motor with AW4 (I installed)/NP208D and XJ EFI harness is going into the '76 J10 shortbox to haul my trailer around. http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/carnuck/?action=view¤t=1249018156 .jpg _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:07:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: doors? say what? drove by two state troopers, two sno co sherrifs, king county sherrif, redmond police, woodinville police x2, lake city police... and drove down SR9 right next to a cop... for several miles... got the actual law from the state website? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # Taking a chance? Snohomish cops are busting people for no doors as of June 1 '09 when the Supreme court upheld the "doors required" law. # # # # # > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:03:46 -0700 # > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net # > To: # > Subject: fsj: doors? # > # > where we're going, we don't need doors... # > # > # > ...went on a WVO* run, sans doors... left the house around 6pm, only 85 deg or so, # > cooled down to less than 75 by the time we got back... # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Jul_30_wvo-run-NO-DOORS/ # > # > # > * - WVO = waste veggie oil... see the buckets and plastic containers # > in the back? there's about 40 gallons or so of used cooking oil picked # > up from several resturaunts in the area... it's converted to bioDiesel and # > run in the '86 cj-10a and the '91 300D... thought about using the '99 WJ # > to pick this up and decided driving with no doors to stay cool made more # > sense than messing up the back of the WJ or the trunk of the benz. :) # > # > the plan is to get my '83 J10 stepside converted to Diesel and make these # > runs for WVO with a/c... :) actually thinking about putting a tank in the # > back with a filter setup and pour it straight in and heat it... but that's # > a long term dream... ;) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # _________________________________________________________________ # Windows Live(TM) Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web's latest sports videos. Check it out. # http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:10:15 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: fsj: doors? I'm going to have to get my copy of the vehicle code, but don't think doors are necessarily a requirement here in california where everything other than paying too much for something is illegal. It's worth pointing out, though, John, most cops are going to let a stupid infraction go (eg taillight out) unless they are either incredibly bored, or want you for something else and need the valid probable cause to stop you and talk to you. Believe it or not, they DO teach about the fourth amendment in the police academy. Well, at least down here. Doors are heavy. I'll leave mine on, thanks. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:07:17AM -0700, john wrote: > say what? > > drove by two state troopers, two sno co sherrifs, king county sherrif, > redmond police, woodinville police x2, lake city police... and drove > down SR9 right next to a cop... for several miles... > > got the actual law from the state website? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: doors? just checked dmv legistlation... this is the section where it would be: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?Cite=46 nada... zip, saw some chatter about this on some boards... biggest issue was having external mirrors... not even states like PA and NJ require the doors... there is something about older jeeps in BC being ok, but not newer jeeps... again, forum chaff... barney fife stories, no written tickets... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Kevin wrote: # I'm going to have to get my copy of the vehicle code, but don't think doors # are necessarily a requirement here in california where everything other than # paying too much for something is illegal. # # It's worth pointing out, though, John, most cops are going to let a stupid # infraction go (eg taillight out) unless they are either incredibly bored, or # want you for something else and need the valid probable cause to stop you and # talk to you. Believe it or not, they DO teach about the fourth amendment in # the police academy. Well, at least down here. # # Doors are heavy. I'll leave mine on, thanks. # # On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:07:17AM -0700, john wrote: # > say what? # > # > drove by two state troopers, two sno co sherrifs, king county sherrif, # > redmond police, woodinville police x2, lake city police... and drove # > down SR9 right next to a cop... for several miles... # > # > got the actual law from the state website? # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:47:37 -0400 From: "Bob Brooks" Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? John; Very true, the only rust free vehicles here in NY were imported from dryer climates, and once they get here, they rust pretty quick!! Bob - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:53 PM To: Bob Brooks Cc: 'Tesar Landon-R16884'; 'local Jeep list'; Bob Brooks Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? if it were it wouldn't be rust free... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Bob Brooks wrote: # Boy I wish that was out here on the right coast!! # # Bob # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Tesar # Landon-R16884 # Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:25 PM # To: john # Cc: local Jeep list # Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? # # I must go look. God is smiling on me. # # - L # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of # john # Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:27 PM # To: Tesar Landon-R16884 # Cc: local Jeep list # Subject: Re: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? # # yes. # # even my stepside bed is the same as the Willys pickups... # # it's the long wheel base version... even has the original tornado # engine, cool. # my '65 stepside was the shorter version of that bed... # # excellent price... # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # # # Hey, can someone take a look and tell me if the bed looks correct on # # this '63 Gladiator? # # Looks like it came from a Willys pickup, there may be a reason for # that # # :) # # http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1292690398.html # # # # - Landon # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:55:11 -0700 From: "Tesar Landon-R16884" Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? Wow, I had no idea that stepside bed had such a heritage. - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Bob Brooks Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:39 PM To: Tesar Landon-R16884; 'john' Cc: 'local Jeep list'; Bob Brooks Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? Boy I wish that was out here on the right coast!! Bob - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Tesar Landon-R16884 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:25 PM To: john Cc: local Jeep list Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? I must go look. God is smiling on me. - - L - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:27 PM To: Tesar Landon-R16884 Cc: local Jeep list Subject: Re: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? yes. even my stepside bed is the same as the Willys pickups... it's the long wheel base version... even has the original tornado engine, cool. my '65 stepside was the shorter version of that bed... excellent price... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # Hey, can someone take a look and tell me if the bed looks correct on # this '63 Gladiator? # Looks like it came from a Willys pickup, there may be a reason for that # :) # http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1292690398.html # # - Landon # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:43:33 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? Looks good, I hope that you are getting it. Otherwise it could look good in my collection...... Michel 74 wag > Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:55:11 -0700 > From: landon.tesar-at-freescale.com > To: rbrooks-at-hvc.rr.com; john-at-wagoneers.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; rbrooks-at-gsatech.com > > Wow, I had no idea that stepside bed had such a heritage. > > - Landon > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > Bob Brooks > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:39 PM > To: Tesar Landon-R16884; 'john' > Cc: 'local Jeep list'; Bob Brooks > Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? > > Boy I wish that was out here on the right coast!! > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > Tesar > Landon-R16884 > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:25 PM > To: john > Cc: local Jeep list > Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? > > I must go look. God is smiling on me. > > - L > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > john > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:27 PM > To: Tesar Landon-R16884 > Cc: local Jeep list > Subject: Re: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? > > yes. > > even my stepside bed is the same as the Willys pickups... > > it's the long wheel base version... even has the original tornado > engine, cool. > my '65 stepside was the shorter version of that bed... > > excellent price... > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: > > # Hey, can someone take a look and tell me if the bed looks correct on > # this '63 Gladiator? > # Looks like it came from a Willys pickup, there may be a reason for > that > # :) > # http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1292690398.html > # > # - Landon > # _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web^Rs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:17:04 -0700 From: "Joe" Subject: RE: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? That's good to know. I've been looking for a bed for my '49 Willys. In fact I've been looking at buying whole trucks just for the bed. They don't have the big "W" on them, do they? Joe Hughes Everett, WA 22 Willys-Overland Touring 49 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis 50 Willys Wagon, Buick 231 V6 (Wife's) 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan (For Sale) 88 Honda CBR-600 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L V8 95 Dodge 2500 6bt, 47RH 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L Joe H. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > john > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:27 PM > To: Tesar Landon-R16884 > Cc: local Jeep list > Subject: Re: fsj: Gladiator - bed correct? > > yes. > > even my stepside bed is the same as the Willys pickups... > > it's the long wheel base version... even has the original tornado > engine, cool. > my '65 stepside was the shorter version of that bed... > > excellent price... > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: > > # Hey, can someone take a look and tell me if the bed looks correct on > # this '63 Gladiator? > # Looks like it came from a Willys pickup, there may be a reason for > that > # :) > # http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1292690398.html > # > # - Landon > # _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live^Y Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web^Rs latest sports videos. 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