From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 31 10:02:23 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, August 31 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3419 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: Re: Funny video about fuel economy and Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 Re: fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 Re: fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:17:42 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Funny video about fuel economy and Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg That's "Pious" (Southpark had it right!) If you drive them boot to the boards, they engage the electric motor more often and use less fuel. Counterintuitive if you ask me! From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Funny video about fuel economy and Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmxUsGiGp3w ya gotta love top gear... :) like the fact that the bmw got 19 mpg and the Pry-us only 17 mpg... these were good too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqUBsCo8pEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdgMrdY8q_I john _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackTo School_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:54:30 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 ok, invoking PLAN B for the labor day weekend... PLAN "A" WAS to drive down on Friday to Centralia, drop off a 727, pick up the Scout T19/D300 and proceed to Salem, OR to meet up with a list friend from CA on Saturday to deliver the T19/Dana 300, and then test drive the running Scout with the SD33T... the SD33T will be delivered to Centralia later when that guy goes up to visit family... however, there are some fires in CA that have changed the transmission delivery plans as my list friend happens to be in that line of work, so... invoking PLAN B: Drive down on SATURDAY to Centralia, drop off the fresh TF727 for Superdawg and then continue on down to Salem to test drive the Scout SD33T and generally goof off. We'll spend the night in Portland or Salem and head home on Sunday, hopefully beating the Labor Day rush on I-5 Monday evening. Of course with my luck I won't find a hotel on Saturday and we'll end up driving all the way back, which is fine, will save some money that way. :) Later we'll ship the T19/D300 transmission from Centralia or work something else out. I think shipping it down to CA will be cheaper than what we had planned anyway. :) Meeting halfway sometimes works out... getting all the timing just right is a challenge. These I-5 adventures are always entertaining if nothing else... trying to get 3 or 4 different sets of strangers to all meet up at just the right times is somewhat unusual. Anyway, the benefit of PLAN B is I don't have to take a day of vacation and I can drive the '91 300D and get 35+ mpg. In other news, the wedding went very well, my daughter was absolutely lovely, my wife beautiful, the food and venue excellent and the guests wonderful. Have no idea where the kids went on their honeymoon, my son-in-law is a character and loves creating suspense and surprises... we think they're going to go on a cruise... but who knows... they may be hiding in their townhome watching old black and white movies and eating popcorn, which seems to be a common thing for people in my acquaintance. :) Anyway, back to the important stuff... the 727 will have the correct tail shaft to mate to my existing Jeep NP208, the correct bell housing to mate to the SAE#4 adapater for the SD33T, a fresh shift kit and a good torque converter... This at least will allow Curtis to get the drivetrain in place, even if the SD33T there isn't running and even if the flexplate piece hasn't made it there yet... those are both things I can deal with later if need be. The 727 should fit easily in the trunk of my 300D, and the hydraulic rear suspension should keep us riding true and level, likely at a max speed of 35 mph on I-5 since it's the last weekend of summer, however, I'm counting on a turn of the weather to keep folks home... :) I'll also have a good 727 to sell with the Jeep bell housing, '89 GW non-lockup guts and the tail shaft that will work with a Scout Dana 20. Very much looking forward to having the J10 running on Diesel and painted the same color as the WJ. The tug if for sale and can go any time. Need the money from it to pay for the wedding... :) Of course now with rain returning to Seattle the air will be clean and I can drive it without resorting to antibiotics, and other meds... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:43:27 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 diesel john said: {- PLAN "A" WAS to drive down on Friday to Centralia, drop off a 727, Am I the only one who thinks that someone who works at Boeing should probably specify the "TF" before "727" when saying he's going to drop one off somewhere? ;) (Hey, maybe you could "borrow" a 727 to literally drop off the TF727! Could you have them install a back that opens up like a C130? Don't forget to attach the parachute! Might damage the TF727 otherwise. ;) ) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: PLAN B - transmissions, Diesels and I-5 well, we quit making 727's some time ago... :) besides I work in Everett where we make real planes... ;) those were made in Renton. but yes, I should put the tf in the 727... just thinking about how we're trying to use windoze to run cad apps... it's like trying to tow a horse trailer with three stallions using a Vega as a tow vehicle... the vendors are as clueless as their customers... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Dan Black wrote: # diesel john said: # {- PLAN "A" WAS to drive down on Friday to Centralia, drop off a 727, # # Am I the only one who thinks that someone who works at Boeing should # probably specify the "TF" before "727" when saying he's going to drop # one off somewhere? # # ;) # # (Hey, maybe you could "borrow" a 727 to literally drop off the TF727! # Could you have them install a back that opens up like a C130? Don't # forget to attach the parachute! Might damage the TF727 otherwise. ;) ) # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. # After a while, you realize the pig is enjoying it. # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3419 **************************