From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Nov 7 16:12:39 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, November 8 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3457 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure RE: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure fsj: RE: '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure xj: RE: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure (fwd) fsj: Re: FW: Parking incident fsj: loaded up and ready to wrench... fsj: OT... way OffTopic... extreme geek question... RE: fsj: loaded up and ready to wrench... RE: fsj: '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure fsj: XJ Question, need measurements from vacuum booster RE: fsj: XJ Question, need measurements from vacuum booster fsj: '89 xj - made it home FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure where might that be on a jeep??? I've seen this on a ford before that crashed in the ditch... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Jerry Kaidor wrote: # > popcorn update: Friday 6 November - # # > if no fuel present, check fuses, pump, replace pump/filter # # *** Don't forget the crash sensor! Fix might be as simple as pressing # its reset button. # # - Jerry Kaidor # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:12:58 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure No upside down valve in the xj unless it has ABS (maybe) > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:48:38 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: jerry-at-tr2.com > CC: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; wj-grand-at-yahoogroups.com; dzashby-at-comcast.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure > > where might that be on a jeep??? > > I've seen this on a ford before that crashed in the ditch... > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Jerry Kaidor wrote: > > # > popcorn update: Friday 6 November - > # > # > if no fuel present, check fuses, pump, replace pump/filter > # > # *** Don't forget the crash sensor! Fix might be as simple as pressing > # its reset button. > # > # - Jerry Kaidor > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: RE: '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure :) On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Joe Hughes wrote: # Wow, my head is spinning. Computers, sensors, spark plugs, now I know why # you like diesels! ;-) # # Joe H. # Everett, WA AMEN. Fuel, filter, pump, injectors. Either it do, or it don't. simple. just like me. ;) and besides, gas stinks... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:18:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: RE: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure (fwd) this could explain why I haven't seen one in a jeep. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Blair No upside down valve in the xj unless it has ABS (maybe) > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:48:38 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: jerry-at-tr2.com > CC: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; wj-grand-at-yahoogroups.com; dzashby-at-comcast.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure > > where might that be on a jeep??? > > I've seen this on a ford before that crashed in the ditch... > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Jerry Kaidor wrote: > > # > popcorn update: Friday 6 November - > # > # > if no fuel present, check fuses, pump, replace pump/filter > # > # *** Don't forget the crash sensor! Fix might be as simple as pressing > # its reset button. > # > # - Jerry Kaidor > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:34:33 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: FW: Parking incident hadn't seen it... I'd say that thing scored about 575 on the RTI... what do you give it? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, David Ashby wrote: # You probably already saw his.but just in case you haven't # # # # # http://autos.aol.com/article/bmw-x5-worst-parker?icid=main|main|dl1|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fautos.aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbmw-x5-worst-parker # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:47:19 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: loaded up and ready to wrench... ...in the rain... hoping it'll be a simple fix to get the '89 XJ running... http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ/ALL.html picked up a Map sensor, CPS and fuel pump... loaded up tools, parts and have the WJ pointed toward the freeway... talked to curtis... he's trying for the end of November for Superdawg... guess there's a number of folks in his home town cheering him on... that way they can get their projects into his shop. ;) it is totally possible, everything he needs is there... he's doing a LOT of prep work for the paint job... he's uncovering a lot of the quality issues that AMC had, he is grateful that Superdawg is rust free though. (so am I). :) and, also... the SD33T appears to longer than the 4.2, which means trying to stuff it under the "bonnet" of the XJ would require a bigger hammer than I own... :) Besides, hauling WVO in an XJ just doesn't seem practical, that stuff is nasty... The tug has been great for it, but runs out of room and can only carry about 1,000lbs worth before it has issues. The J10 will be ideal for that and adding a 2nd tank for SVO operation. so the XJ will get fixed and sold to pay for the wedding that happened in august... the tug also will be going away with the Diesel... I wasn't really excited about two engine swaps anyway... I just couldn't make the xj work for WVO. If the tug sells first and Superdawg is done I may use the XJ for a Mercedes Diesel conversion, long term project... what would be the point of having a monster carport if I didn't have something like that lurking in the back of it? :) keep the popcorn fresh... (and dry)... nasty november west coast storms coming through, wind was at least 14 mph today... and it was raining drops! john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:32:51 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: OT... way OffTopic... extreme geek question... WARNING: WAY OFF TOPIC... 99% of you won't get this... if you don't know what "rsync" is, you are Normal... delete this NOW! want to keep 4 computers in sync using one as the master... will overwrite the server on sync... this is what I use this for backups... but it doesn't remove anything on the server... just adds... rsync -rp /home/user/dir user-at-server:/home/user/dir what's the syntax to make the server the same as the client? do I use the delete switch? ...and yes, I did read the man pages. I'm thinking I need to add this??? --delete delete extraneous files from dest dirs so to backup the client directory to the server and REMOVE any files I've deleted, would I do this? rsync -rp --delete /home/user/dir user-at-server:/home/user/dir thanx richard and jerry... ;) this is part of my migration plan from Microsoft to full on Linux using Thunderbird... will keep the latest email on my server and sync my clients from the server, then after reading/deleting, will update the thunderbird folders on the server, and repeat... there may be an easier way... but this will allow me to use the mac and several linux boxes... with quasi-backups distributed... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:26:12 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: loaded up and ready to wrench... How about a Toyota diesel in that XJ? Or better yet, a Comanche with diesel to haul the WVO? (you saw how much junk mine hauled to and from Ouray) It never rains around here, does it? "Someone left the cake out in the rain!" http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zl45_donna-summer-mac-arthur-park_music someone thinks Jtrucks deserve to be in the top 10 of all time (me too!) http://forums.aaca.org/f169/10-all-time-most-attactive-pickup-271692.html Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:47:19 -0800 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: > Subject: fsj: loaded up and ready to wrench... > > ...in the rain... hoping it'll be a simple fix to get the '89 XJ running... > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ/ALL.html > > picked up a Map sensor, CPS and fuel pump... > loaded up tools, parts and have the WJ pointed toward the freeway... > > talked to curtis... he's trying for the end of November for Superdawg... > guess there's a number of folks in his home town cheering him on... that > way they can get their projects into his shop. ;) > > it is totally possible, everything he needs is there... he's doing a LOT of > prep work for the paint job... he's uncovering a lot of the quality issues > that AMC had, he is grateful that Superdawg is rust free though. (so am I). :) > > and, also... the SD33T appears to longer than the 4.2, which means > trying to stuff it under the "bonnet" of the XJ would require a bigger hammer > than I own... :) Besides, hauling WVO in an XJ just doesn't seem practical, > that stuff is nasty... The tug has been great for it, but runs out of room > and can only carry about 1,000lbs worth before it has issues. The J10 will be > ideal for that and adding a 2nd tank for SVO operation. > > so the XJ will get fixed and sold to pay for the wedding that happened in august... > the tug also will be going away with the Diesel... I wasn't really > excited about two engine swaps anyway... I just couldn't make the xj work for WVO. > If the tug sells first and Superdawg is done I may use the XJ for a Mercedes Diesel > conversion, long term project... what would be the point of having a monster carport > if I didn't have something like that lurking in the back of it? :) > > keep the popcorn fresh... (and dry)... nasty november west coast storms coming through, > wind was at least 14 mph today... and it was raining drops! > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:33:57 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: '89 xj - renix - symptoms as reported... another popcorn adventure John wrote: what's a Thunderstorm? Is that anything like "what's snow?" Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:42:23 -0800 (PST) From: elliott sydnam Subject: fsj: XJ Question, need measurements from vacuum booster I am building hydroboost mount for a guy in Norway that has an XJ. What I'm looking for is if anyone has a booster off of an XJ, if they could take some measurements for me. From what I've read I think the TJ booster will mount up the same and I have measurements from that which I need to double check with someone who has an XJ booster on hand. The measurements I have that I need to verify are: Booster bolt spacing vertically = 3.4 or possibly 3.5" Booster bolt spacing horizontally = 3.4" Distance from the mounting surface of the booster to the center of the hole in the brake rod = 5.375 (5 3/8) If someone could check those for me and let me know what year XJ the booster was from I'd appreciate it. Thank you, Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:14:23 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: XJ Question, need measurements from vacuum booster I was told the Chev S10 hydroboost would work. I'm using a double diaphragm one from a Grand Cherokee with no ABS, but 95 or so and up XJs have them too. Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 04:42:23 -0800 > From: elliottsydnam-at-yahoo.com > Subject: fsj: XJ Question, need measurements from vacuum booster > To: fsj-at-digest.net > > I am building hydroboost mount for a guy in Norway that has an XJ. What I'm looking for is if anyone has a booster off of an XJ, if they could take some measurements for me. From what I've read I think the TJ booster will mount up the same and I have measurements from that which I need to double check with someone who has an XJ booster on hand. > > The measurements I have that I need to verify are: > > Booster bolt spacing vertically = 3.4 or possibly 3.5" > Booster bolt spacing horizontally = 3.4" > Distance from the mounting surface of the booster to the center of the hole in the brake rod = 5.375 (5 3/8) > > If someone could check those for me and let me know what year XJ the booster was from I'd appreciate it. > Thank you, > Elliott _________________________________________________________________ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wl&fi lt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000&cat=1,2,3,4,5,6&brands=5,6,7,8,9 ,10,11,12,13,14,15,16&addf=4,5,9&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN _evergreen2:112009 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:11:43 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: '89 xj - made it home and the winning guess... the coil was bad. other minor issuea, more later. need to do some work on it now. no plans to convert to Diesel, will sell after fixing. Superdawg, hurry home. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3457 **************************