From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Dec 11 11:20:55 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, December 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3487 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: new product available Re: fsj: new product available RE: fsj: BioDiesel and hummingbirds at 16 deg F fsj: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) Re: fsj: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) Re: fsj: new product available RE: fsj: new product available fsj: RE: BioDiesel at 16 deg F (fwd) fsj: Re: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:08:11 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: new product available My J4000 had a Class 4 hitch built for it, but it was ugly and kept me from adding a second fuel tank. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > From: proj96xj-at-insightbb.com > To: john-at-wagoneers.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: new product available > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:05:54 -0500 > > gotcha. > sounds like the stock ones are a bit "light dity." might have to look into > those, or even some universal ones. > i'm also considering making a class III receiver hitch for j-trucks as well. > those aren't easy to come by, either, AFAIK. > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:11:48 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: new product available all the better reason to build a better hitch! : ) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Blair" To: ; "john Meister" Cc: "local Jeep list" Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: RE: fsj: new product available > My J4000 had a Class 4 hitch built for it, but it was ugly and kept me > from > adding a second fuel tank. > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > > > >> From: proj96xj-at-insightbb.com >> To: john-at-wagoneers.com >> CC: fsj-at-digest.net >> Subject: Re: fsj: new product available >> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:05:54 -0500 >> >> gotcha. >> sounds like the stock ones are a bit "light dity." might have to look >> into >> those, or even some universal ones. >> i'm also considering making a class III receiver hitch for j-trucks as >> well. >> those aren't easy to come by, either, AFAIK. >> >> Neal A. Hoover >> Project '76 J-10 >> Project '96 XJ >> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:21:49 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: BioDiesel and hummingbirds at 16 deg F "They call it Jello yellow..." Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:59:00 -0800 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: > Subject: fsj: BioDiesel and hummingbirds at 16 deg F > > BioDiesel does NOT flow at 16 degrees F. > http://fotomeister.us/2009/12-Dec-10-BioDiesel-at-16-deg-F/ > > but humming birds will fly... > http://fotomeister.us/2009/12-Dec-09-hummingbird/ALL.html > > had to drive the gas powered WJ this morning... my son put his '85 300d on the > block heater, we'll see... my '91 300d with about 50% bioDiesel has been working, > I think the benz preheats the fuel...my son has been borrowing it... he was > complaining about poor performance so I suspect half the tank is jello... > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft^Rs powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:04:02 -0800 From: "Joe Hughes" Subject: fsj: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) Jim B., Thanks for pointing out this fraud. After a little investigating I found a post of his on a forum. http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 So I asked him about his truck. Read my emails below. Joe Hughes Everett, WA From: whomever-at-whoever.com [mailto:whomever-at-whoever.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:56 AM To: swollencranium-at-yahoo.com Subject: RE: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) Gary, So which is it??? Is it fine or is it rusted?!? Because you said it had frame rot here: http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 Should I quote you some more? "frame would have required EXTENSIVE welding" "I do not have the proper shop tools required for a complete frame rebuild" "thousands of man hours required to complete the required repairs" From: Gary Cranium [mailto:swollencranium-at-yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:31 AM To: whomever-at-whoever.com Subject: Re: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) appears fine to me - --- On Fri, 12/11/09, whomever-at-whoever.com wrote: From: whomever-at-whoever.com Subject: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) To: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:17 AM ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html I know you said it is rusty, but how about the frame is it in decent shape? http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1503121967.html _____ this message was remailed to you via: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org _____ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) anytime I see an ad where the guy is bad mouthing anyone or anything, and using foul language I immediately discredit or question what he says... you have to look at the project on it's own merits and disregard what the guy says... ask for pictures... or as Reagan always said, "trust, but verify"... (with pictures) $700 even for a rusty frame isn't horrible... I know of a J10 frame that could be used... :) after all the guy did say: . RUSTY, its 44 years old and sat in some dude's woods so its RUSTY as hell .. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Joe Hughes wrote: # Jim B., # Thanks for pointing out this fraud. # After a little investigating I found a post of his on a forum. # http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 # # So I asked him about his truck. Read my emails below. # Joe Hughes # Everett, WA # # From: whomever-at-whoever.com [mailto:whomever-at-whoever.com] # Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:56 AM # To: swollencranium-at-yahoo.com # Subject: RE: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) # Gary, # So which is it??? Is it fine or is it rusted?!? # Because you said it had frame rot here: # http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 # # Should I quote you some more? # "frame would have required EXTENSIVE welding" # "I do not have the proper shop tools required for a complete frame rebuild" # "thousands of man hours required to complete the required repairs" # From: Gary Cranium [mailto:swollencranium-at-yahoo.com] # Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:31 AM # To: whomever-at-whoever.com # Subject: Re: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) # # appears fine to me # # --- On Fri, 12/11/09, whomever-at-whoever.com wrote: # From: whomever-at-whoever.com # Subject: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) # To: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org # Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:17 AM # # ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY # ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home # ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping # ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html # I know you said it is rusty, but how about the frame is it in decent shape? # http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1503121967.html # # this message was remailed to you via: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:58:24 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: new product available shrouds kinda fall into the large capital investment category again since i don't have a plastic mold. : ) Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesar Landon-R16884" To: "john" ; "Neal Hoover" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: RE: fsj: new product available Fan shrouds seem to be a common issue, can't remember if they're unobtainable new, or just expensive. Rear window cranks for the late GW, to replace the motor. - - L - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:18 PM To: Neal Hoover Cc: fsj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: fsj: new product available sounds good... maybe we should submit a wish list of things to you. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: # well good deal, then! # i can sent a few pics your way. i took detailed pics and did an instructions # write-up for Brent -at- BJ's. i'll shoot them over to you BC in the next few # days. # thanks, John! # # i'm also going to be launching a new product in '10. it's the bed patch # panels. so, instead of replacing entire bed sides (the which of entire # panels are of very poor quality... i bought some and took them straight to # the recyclers because they were virtually impossible to work with or repair # to make them correct), i'm going to offer patch panels that replace the metal # that rusts out on all j-trucks at each "quarter panel" of the bed. you can # get a better idea of what i'm talking about by looking at the pics on my # webshots page. # once i get a manufacturing process down (i did the first ones by hand), i'll # be looking to source a point of retail for those, too. # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "Neal Hoover" # Cc: # Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:00 AM # Subject: Re: fsj: new product available # # # > excellent... share away, not a problem to let us know # > and I hope you make a profit too! # > # > we're all about making our FSJs nice... I'll post # > a picture of it on my site if you'd like.... and let folks know it's at # > BJ's. Been over # > to Brent's place a few times. Nice setup over there. He's more than fair # > to work with. # > # > in fact, write up something with pictures and I'll build a web page... do # > you want bj's to be the single source or will you sell direct too? either # > way # > is fine. I source the stepside fenders, but my supplier is so slow most # > sales # > fail because of the delays... bj's talked with me about selling them but # > they # > decided not to. not easy to store, or ship... # > # > sharing FSJ and other Jeep parts, service and literature is good stuff, # > saying you've got used parts, jeeps and such is fine. There is an fsj # > parts # > list started, doesn't get a lot of traffic so posting here and there isn't # > a problem. # > # > I may even look at those parts... I replaced them on mine, but it's been # > sitting for so long... not sure if they're any good any more. # > # > john # > # > ----- # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: # > # > # John, i apologize for any plugging or marketing up front, but # > # there were a few people here who were interested in a product that i # > have # > # been developing recently, which was completely unavailable prior to now. # > it # > # is the window guide that resides on the back side of the divider bar # > between # > # the vent window and the main front door windows of all FSJs. further # > # described, it's the vertical channel that the *leading* edge of the # > front # > # door glass rides in. the cushion (or flocking) that isolates the glass # > from # > # the metal channel has long rotted out and is mostly gone in lots of # > rigs. # > # i made my own during the process of my personal J-truck build because # > # replacements were nowhere to be found. when i did this, i posted some # > pics # > # on my webshots page and this generated some interest. this caused me to # > # talk to Ryan at BJ's Off-Road and i am now supplying him with these # > parts # > # for retail! # > # so, not to directly plug myself or BJ's, but to alert those who were # > # interested in these parts when they become available.... THEY'RE NOW # > # AVAILABLE!!! # > # http://www.bjsoffroad.com/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=1058&cid=11 # > # thanks. # > # # > # Neal A. Hoover # > # Project '76 J-10 # > # Project '96 XJ # > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:08:51 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: new product available Shroud..... (s).... During out last saturday outing to Mt Diablo, on of the J trucks owner, Zack, had made his own shroud with its own mold.... Did not take a pict... but we can get one.... It could use a little adjustment for the depth as the fan was a bit too deep into the shroud by 1/2". One other guy used a piece of plastic made for "culvert" pipe http://www.plasticpipe.org/drainage/culverts_highways.html As for Michel he got a nice edelbrock performer intake.... and a matching 1405 carb.... so as soon as that cold is gone, I will be wrenching. My OE intake gaskets started to leak, then the EGR retaining pin broke off.... and I have a temporary set up that he doing fairly well.... PIct upon requests. cheers Michel > From: proj96xj-at-insightbb.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: new product available > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:58:24 -0500 > > shrouds kinda fall into the large capital investment category again since i > don't have a plastic mold. > : ) > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tesar Landon-R16884" > To: "john" ; "Neal Hoover" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:54 AM > Subject: RE: fsj: new product available > > > Fan shrouds seem to be a common issue, can't remember if they're > unobtainable new, or just expensive. > Rear window cranks for the late GW, to replace the motor. > > - L > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > john > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:18 PM > To: Neal Hoover > Cc: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: new product available > > sounds good... maybe we should submit a wish list of things to you. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: > > # well good deal, then! > # i can sent a few pics your way. i took detailed pics and did an > instructions # write-up for Brent -at- BJ's. i'll shoot them over to you > BC in the next few # days. > # thanks, John! > # > # i'm also going to be launching a new product in '10. it's the bed > patch # panels. so, instead of replacing entire bed sides (the which > of entire # panels are of very poor quality... i bought some and took > them straight to # the recyclers because they were virtually impossible > to work with or repair # to make them correct), i'm going to offer > patch panels that replace the metal # that rusts out on all j-trucks at > each "quarter panel" of the bed. you can # get a better idea of what > i'm talking about by looking at the pics on my # webshots page. > # once i get a manufacturing process down (i did the first ones by > hand), i'll # be looking to source a point of retail for those, too. > # > # Neal A. Hoover > # Project '76 J-10 > # Project '96 XJ > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: > "Neal Hoover" # Cc: # Sent: > Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:00 AM # Subject: Re: fsj: new product > available # # # > excellent... share away, not a problem to let us > know # > and I hope you make a profit too! > # > > # > we're all about making our FSJs nice... I'll post # > a picture of > it on my site if you'd like.... and let folks know it's at # > BJ's. > Been over # > to Brent's place a few times. Nice setup over there. > He's more than fair # > to work with. > # > > # > in fact, write up something with pictures and I'll build a web > page... do # > you want bj's to be the single source or will you sell > direct too? either # > way # > is fine. I source the stepside > fenders, but my supplier is so slow most # > sales # > fail because of > the delays... bj's talked with me about selling them but # > they # > > decided not to. not easy to store, or ship... > # > > # > sharing FSJ and other Jeep parts, service and literature is good > stuff, # > saying you've got used parts, jeeps and such is fine. There > is an fsj # > parts # > list started, doesn't get a lot of traffic so > posting here and there isn't # > a problem. > # > > # > I may even look at those parts... I replaced them on mine, but it's > been # > sitting for so long... not sure if they're any good any more. > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they > mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Neal Hoover wrote: > # > > # > # John, i apologize for any plugging or marketing up front, but # > > # there were a few people here who were interested in a product that i > # > have # > # been developing recently, which was completely > unavailable prior to now. > # > it > # > # is the window guide that resides on the back side of the divider > bar # > between # > # the vent window and the main front door windows > of all FSJs. further # > # described, it's the vertical channel that > the *leading* edge of the # > front # > # door glass rides in. the > cushion (or flocking) that isolates the glass # > from # > # the metal > channel has long rotted out and is mostly gone in lots of # > rigs. > # > # i made my own during the process of my personal J-truck build > because # > # replacements were nowhere to be found. when i did this, i > posted some # > pics # > # on my webshots page and this generated some > interest. this caused me to # > # talk to Ryan at BJ's Off-Road and i > am now supplying him with these # > parts # > # for retail! > # > # so, not to directly plug myself or BJ's, but to alert those who > were # > # interested in these parts when they become available.... > THEY'RE NOW # > # AVAILABLE!!! > # > # http://www.bjsoffroad.com/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=1058&cid=11 > # > # thanks. > # > # > # > # Neal A. Hoover > # > # Project '76 J-10 > # > # Project '96 XJ > # > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:19:10 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: RE: BioDiesel at 16 deg F (fwd) "jello mellow"... gravy... :) Have a magnetic heater on the tank, block heater plugged in... heat gun blowing on the tank... it's become liquid again... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Blair "They call it Jello yellow..." Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > BioDiesel does NOT flow at 16 degrees F. > http://fotomeister.us/2009/12-Dec-10-BioDiesel-at-16-deg-F/ > > but humming birds will fly... > http://fotomeister.us/2009/12-Dec-09-hummingbird/ALL.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:18:03 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) lol! and what was his response after you called him out? in the end, if you did buy the truck, you could probably get a couple hundred bucks out of the Rhino grill alone! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Hughes" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: fsj: FW: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) > Jim B., > > Thanks for pointing out this fraud. > > > > After a little investigating I found a post of his on a forum. > > http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 > > > > So I asked him about his truck. Read my emails below. > > > > Joe Hughes > > Everett, WA > > > > > > From: whomever-at-whoever.com [mailto:whomever-at-whoever.com] > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:56 AM > To: swollencranium-at-yahoo.com > Subject: RE: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) > > > > Gary, > > So which is it??? Is it fine or is it rusted?!? > > Because you said it had frame rot here: > http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45064#post45064 > > > > Should I quote you some more? > "frame would have required EXTENSIVE welding" > "I do not have the proper shop tools required for a complete frame > rebuild" > "thousands of man hours required to complete the required repairs" > > > > > > From: Gary Cranium [mailto:swollencranium-at-yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:31 AM > To: whomever-at-whoever.com > Subject: Re: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) > > > > > > appears fine to me > > > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, whomever-at-whoever.com wrote: > > > From: whomever-at-whoever.com > Subject: Jeep Gladiator 1965 - $700 (willow spring) > To: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:17 AM > > ** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY > ** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home > ** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping > ** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html > > I know you said it is rusty, but how about the frame is it in decent > shape? > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1503121967.html > > > > _____ > > this message was remailed to you via: sale-k8jac-1503121967-at-craigslist.org > > _____ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3487 **************************