From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Dec 3 13:52:19 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, December 3 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3652 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( Re: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( fsj: looking for a GW or Chero fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Re: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero RE: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero fsj: winches RE: fsj: winches Re: fsj: winches RE: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:10:11 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( I see they haven't opened the one planned for Oly yet > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:40:30 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: > Subject: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( > > just got word, the linux class was cancelled... :( > > no in-n-out burgers for john and becky... :( > > unless of course we drive to Redding on our own with the TDI... at 50 mpg > > estimated time on I-5: 10 hours 22 mins > 614 mi > > estimate 12 gallons of Diesel to get there and another 12 to get back... at 3.39/gal, > that'd be about $80 for a DOUBLE-DOUBLE, plus the costs of the burger and Frys... oh, > wait, fries... we'd stop at Frys in Oregon... :) > > Thinking maybe we'd cut over to the coast from Redding and then back up the Oregon coast... > > nice little two or three day scenic drive capped off by said DOUBLE-DOUBLE. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:15:28 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( Olympia, WA was supposed to open one last year (they closed the one in Lynnwood several years ago, probably due to competition from Dicks and Fatburger) but the slow economy takes it's toll! Subject: Re: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:11:38 +0000 Huh? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Jim Blair Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:10:11 -0800To: ; Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( I see they haven't opened the one planned for Oly yet > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:40:30 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: > Subject: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( > > just got word, the linux class was cancelled... :( > > no in-n-out burgers for john and becky... :( > > unless of course we drive to Redding on our own with the TDI... at 50 mpg > > estimated time on I-5: 10 hours 22 mins > 614 mi > > estimate 12 gallons of Diesel to get there and another 12 to get back... at 3.39/gal, > that'd be about $80 for a DOUBLE-DOUBLE, plus the costs of the burger and Frys... oh, > wait, fries... we'd stop at Frys in Oregon... :) > > Thinking maybe we'd cut over to the coast from Redding and then back up the Oregon coast... > > nice little two or three day scenic drive capped off by said DOUBLE-DOUBLE. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:19:35 +0000 From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com Subject: Re: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( There has NEVER been an In-N-Out burger further north than Redding, CA. They are a family run outfit. Locations are limited. Not sure what chain you're thinking of. They are way better than Dicks, which is good. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:15:28 To: ; Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( Olympia, WA was supposed to open one last year (they closed the one in Lynnwood several years ago, probably due to competition from Dicks and Fatburger) but the slow economy takes it's toll! Subject: Re: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:11:38 +0000 Huh? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Jim Blair Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:10:11 -0800To: ; Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( I see they haven't opened the one planned for Oly yet > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:40:30 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: > Subject: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( > > just got word, the linux class was cancelled... :( > > no in-n-out burgers for john and becky... :( > > unless of course we drive to Redding on our own with the TDI... at 50 mpg > > estimated time on I-5: 10 hours 22 mins > 614 mi > > estimate 12 gallons of Diesel to get there and another 12 to get back... at 3.39/gal, > that'd be about $80 for a DOUBLE-DOUBLE, plus the costs of the burger and Frys... oh, > wait, fries... we'd stop at Frys in Oregon... :) > > Thinking maybe we'd cut over to the coast from Redding and then back up the Oregon coast... > > nice little two or three day scenic drive capped off by said DOUBLE-DOUBLE. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:34:19 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( http://www.in-n-out.com/alllocations.asp there are a bunch of rabid in-n-out burger fans that have been pleading with them for years... we will be the first to know... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # Olympia, WA was supposed to open one last year (they closed the one in # Lynnwood several years ago, probably due to competition from Dicks and # Fatburger) but the slow economy takes it's toll! # # Subject: Re: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( # To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com # Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:11:38 +0000 # # # # Huh? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T # From: Jim Blair # Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:10:11 -0800To: ; # Subject: RE: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( # I see they haven't opened the one planned for Oly yet # # > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:40:30 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: # > Subject: fsj: road trip cancelled... :( # > # > just got word, the linux class was cancelled... :( # > # > no in-n-out burgers for john and becky... :( # > # > unless of course we drive to Redding on our own with the TDI... at 50 mpg # > # > estimated time on I-5: 10 hours 22 mins # > 614 mi # > # > estimate 12 gallons of Diesel to get there and another 12 to get back... at # 3.39/gal, # > that'd be about $80 for a DOUBLE-DOUBLE, plus the costs of the burger and # Frys... oh, # > wait, fries... we'd stop at Frys in Oregon... :) # > # > Thinking maybe we'd cut over to the coast from Redding and then back up the # Oregon coast... # > # > nice little two or three day scenic drive capped off by said DOUBLE-DOUBLE. # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 20:14:13 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: looking for a GW or Chero a buddy of mine is, well, looking for a buddy of his. :-/ as he posted on another list... > does anyone know of any full-size Grand Waggys or Cherokees for sale? a > friend is looking for one that can be driven daily with little to no work > needed. most likely, it will need to be fairly local to Louisville, KY. say, 150 mile radius or so? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:04:36 -0800 From: "Paul & Megan Kershner" Subject: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Is Monroe, Washington within driving distance? 1991 GW "Final Edition" 180K or so miles. Comes with an extra 360 engine with only 30K miles on it. Performer maniford, cam, dual link cam chain, Edelbrock 650 4bbl... New headliner,good rubber, good brakes, runs OK, mostly straight body (some bruises) needs some TLC but will likely go anywhere... Want $2500. If interested, I'm sure a third-party (namely Mr. Popcorn-Meister) could check it out... - -Paul - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal Hoover Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:14 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: fsj: looking for a GW or Chero a buddy of mine is, well, looking for a buddy of his. :-/ as he posted on another list... > does anyone know of any full-size Grand Waggys or Cherokees for sale? a > friend is looking for one that can be driven daily with little to no work > needed. most likely, it will need to be fairly local to Louisville, KY. say, 150 mile radius or so? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 02:24:16 +0000 From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com Subject: Re: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Yeah, provided mr. Popcorn doesn't wheel and deal with it first. ;). Let's see, how about a Homelite 330, a Diesel generator (to light up your life after the wind storms/snow/rain that leave you feeling powerless), maybe a nice semi-pro DSLR, and maybe a pc loaded with your favorite flavor of linux, or shudder, windows. ;) - ------Original Message------ From: Paul Kershner Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net To: 'Neal Hoover' To: FSJ ReplyTo: Paul Kershner Subject: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Sent: Dec 2, 2010 18:04 Is Monroe, Washington within driving distance? 1991 GW "Final Edition" 180K or so miles. Comes with an extra 360 engine with only 30K miles on it. Performer maniford, cam, dual link cam chain, Edelbrock 650 4bbl... New headliner,good rubber, good brakes, runs OK, mostly straight body (some bruises) needs some TLC but will likely go anywhere... Want $2500. If interested, I'm sure a third-party (namely Mr. Popcorn-Meister) could check it out... - -Paul - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal Hoover Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:14 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: fsj: looking for a GW or Chero a buddy of mine is, well, looking for a buddy of his. :-/ as he posted on another list... > does anyone know of any full-size Grand Waggys or Cherokees for sale? a > friend is looking for one that can be driven daily with little to no work > needed. most likely, it will need to be fairly local to Louisville, KY. say, 150 mile radius or so? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:29:06 -0800 From: "Paul & Megan Kershner" Subject: RE: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero LOL. It doesn't have a diesel in it, so he pro'lly won't want it. Gotta get his SuperDawg project finished... - -pk - -----Original Message----- From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com [mailto:fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:24 PM To: Paul Kershner; 'Neal Hoover'; FSJ Subject: Re: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Yeah, provided mr. Popcorn doesn't wheel and deal with it first. ;). Let's see, how about a Homelite 330, a Diesel generator (to light up your life after the wind storms/snow/rain that leave you feeling powerless), maybe a nice semi-pro DSLR, and maybe a pc loaded with your favorite flavor of linux, or shudder, windows. ;) - ------Original Message------ From: Paul Kershner Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net To: 'Neal Hoover' To: FSJ ReplyTo: Paul Kershner Subject: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero Sent: Dec 2, 2010 18:04 Is Monroe, Washington within driving distance? 1991 GW "Final Edition" 180K or so miles. Comes with an extra 360 engine with only 30K miles on it. Performer maniford, cam, dual link cam chain, Edelbrock 650 4bbl... New headliner,good rubber, good brakes, runs OK, mostly straight body (some bruises) needs some TLC but will likely go anywhere... Want $2500. If interested, I'm sure a third-party (namely Mr. Popcorn-Meister) could check it out... - -Paul - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal Hoover Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:14 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: fsj: looking for a GW or Chero a buddy of mine is, well, looking for a buddy of his. :-/ as he posted on another list... > does anyone know of any full-size Grand Waggys or Cherokees for sale? a > friend is looking for one that can be driven daily with little to no work > needed. most likely, it will need to be fairly local to Louisville, KY. say, 150 mile radius or so? Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:34:20 -0800 (PST) From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: winches Good GRIEF!... I'm looking at winches, and I'm seeing decent WARN winches (not the cheapo Tabor versions) for a #9000lb+ rating at $1200+. What?! How in the world could it possibly cost so much for a stupid motor & spool? I mean I know they're heavy duty but wrong is wrong and that is just ridiculous. All the websites I've checked seem to have a lot of bad things to say about every winch out there save for Ramsey and Warn. Even though they're probably all made in China anymore, even the good ones I suspect. Isn't everything? Can anybody offer an explanation about why in the world it could cost so much for these things? I've noticed that (checking the age of the posts) that winches seem to have skyrocketed in prices over the last couple of years. I see guys blathering on about Warn #8k winches for less than $500. LOL Not any more! Try DOUBLE that. I think I need a bit more for the Waggie and was looking to get a 9.5 - 10k winch. But I can't afford a second mortgage on my house. Heck this ol' truck probably isn't worth what the winch would cost. I'm just absolutely shocked by the prices... JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, an heirloom. Passed to one of the grandkids in 2009 -at- 270K miles.... '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. '88 Grand Wagoneer - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:23:09 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: winches This is called inflation. Everything is made in China, even parts for airplane which have a high rate of reject. Use a come-along, cheaper and will not run down your battery. Cheers Michel > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:34:20 -0800 > From: thejeepnut-at-yahoo.com > Subject: fsj: winches > To: 1fsj-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > Good GRIEF!... I'm looking at winches, and I'm seeing decent WARN winches (not the cheapo Tabor versions) for a #9000lb+ rating at $1200+. What?! > How in the world could it possibly cost so much for a stupid motor & spool? I mean I know they're heavy duty but wrong is wrong and that is just ridiculous. All the websites I've checked seem to have a lot of bad things to say about every winch out there save for Ramsey and Warn. > Even though they're probably all made in China anymore, even the good ones I suspect. Isn't everything? > > Can anybody offer an explanation about why in the world it could cost so much for these things? > > I've noticed that (checking the age of the posts) that winches seem to have skyrocketed in prices over the last couple of years. I see guys blathering on about Warn #8k winches for less than $500. LOL Not any more! Try DOUBLE that. I think I need a bit more for the Waggie and was looking to get a 9.5 - 10k winch. But I can't afford a second mortgage on my house. Heck this ol' truck probably isn't worth what the winch would cost. I'm just absolutely shocked by the prices... > > JeepNut > ---------------------------------------------------------- > '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, an heirloom. Passed to one of > the grandkids in 2009 -at- 270K miles.... > '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. > '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. > '88 Grand Wagoneer > - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, > TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- > B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, > ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 > 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:28:19 +0000 From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com Subject: Re: fsj: winches Italian and French parts don't do so well either. Labor unions seem to degrade quality in established countries. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T - -----Original Message----- From: Michel Balea Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:23:09 To: ; fsj digest Reply-To: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: winches This is called inflation. Everything is made in China, even parts for airplane which have a high rate of reject. Use a come-along, cheaper and will not run down your battery. Cheers Michel > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:34:20 -0800 > From: thejeepnut-at-yahoo.com > Subject: fsj: winches > To: 1fsj-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > Good GRIEF!... I'm looking at winches, and I'm seeing decent WARN winches (not the cheapo Tabor versions) for a #9000lb+ rating at $1200+. What?! > How in the world could it possibly cost so much for a stupid motor & spool? I mean I know they're heavy duty but wrong is wrong and that is just ridiculous. All the websites I've checked seem to have a lot of bad things to say about every winch out there save for Ramsey and Warn. > Even though they're probably all made in China anymore, even the good ones I suspect. Isn't everything? > > Can anybody offer an explanation about why in the world it could cost so much for these things? > > I've noticed that (checking the age of the posts) that winches seem to have skyrocketed in prices over the last couple of years. I see guys blathering on about Warn #8k winches for less than $500. LOL Not any more! Try DOUBLE that. I think I need a bit more for the Waggie and was looking to get a 9.5 - 10k winch. But I can't afford a second mortgage on my house. Heck this ol' truck probably isn't worth what the winch would cost. I'm just absolutely shocked by the prices... > > JeepNut > ---------------------------------------------------------- > '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, an heirloom. Passed to one of > the grandkids in 2009 -at- 270K miles.... > '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. > '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. > '88 Grand Wagoneer > - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, > TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- > B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, > ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 > 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 13:51:11 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero yeah, but I have a spare Diesel engine... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, Paul & Megan Kershner wrote: # LOL. It doesn't have a diesel in it, so he pro'lly won't want it. Gotta # get his SuperDawg project finished... # # -pk # # -----Original Message----- # From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com [mailto:fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com] # Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:24 PM # To: Paul Kershner; 'Neal Hoover'; FSJ # Subject: Re: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero # # Yeah, provided mr. Popcorn doesn't wheel and deal with it first. ;). Let's # see, how about a Homelite 330, a Diesel generator (to light up your life # after the wind storms/snow/rain that leave you feeling powerless), maybe a # nice semi-pro DSLR, and maybe a pc loaded with your favorite flavor of # linux, or shudder, windows. ;) # ------Original Message------ # From: Paul Kershner # Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net # To: 'Neal Hoover' # To: FSJ # ReplyTo: Paul Kershner # Subject: fsj: RE: looking for a GW or Chero # Sent: Dec 2, 2010 18:04 # # Is Monroe, Washington within driving distance? # # 1991 GW "Final Edition" 180K or so miles. Comes with an extra 360 engine # with only 30K miles on it. Performer maniford, cam, dual link cam chain, # Edelbrock 650 4bbl... New headliner,good rubber, good brakes, runs OK, # mostly straight body (some bruises) needs some TLC but will likely go # anywhere... # Want $2500. # # If interested, I'm sure a third-party (namely Mr. Popcorn-Meister) could # check it out... # # -Paul # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal # Hoover # Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:14 PM # To: fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com # Subject: fsj: looking for a GW or Chero # # a buddy of mine is, well, looking for a buddy of his. :-/ # as he posted on another list... # # > does anyone know of any full-size Grand Waggys or Cherokees for sale? a # > friend is looking for one that can be driven daily with little to no work # > needed. # # most likely, it will need to be fairly local to Louisville, KY. say, 150 # mile radius or so? # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # # Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3652 **************************