From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 9 11:53:17 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, April 9 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3722 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: PS Gearbox swap fsj: rhino chaser on #27 Re: fsj: Rhino chaser setup fsj: OT: diesel, 104 mpg w vw lupo (fwd)(and rhino chaser grille) fsj: Re: xj: Diesel Jeeps fsj: fuel prices and some general advice/reminders FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:04:53 -0500 From: Kim Tesar Subject: Re: fsj: PS Gearbox swap Awesome, Jim! Good luck with that J20. - - L On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Jim Blair wrote: > Don't know if I need mine yet or not on the J20 that's coming > saturday. (needs > the carb rebuilt but the body isn't rotten or bashed up!) Finally > got it off > the frame yesterday. (rest is now in the back of the C20 for scrap > hauling > tuesday AM) > > Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will > like them only Entangle and hold the poor and > weak, while the rich and powerful will easily > break through them > > ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) > > > >> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:13:14 -0700 >> From: john-at-wagoneers.com >> To: ltesar3421-at-sbcglobal.net >> CC: fsj-at-digest.net >> Subject: Re: fsj: PS Gearbox swap >> >> no, the frame is much wider in the back of a J10... :( >> >> and, the frame changed from 79-80, so I'm looking for a J10 bumper/ >> hitch >> for 80-87. >> >> did the rhino chaser conversion today... IPF h4's... pictures to >> follow >> >> >> >> ----- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kim Tesar wrote: >> >> # How about a receiver hitch from the GW, would that fit as well? >> # >> # /////// >> # On Apr 6, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Kim Tesar wrote: >> # >> # > Hey all, >> # > >> # > any thoughts, will a 87 GW gearbox fit a 79 J10 ? >> # > >> # > I found one for $50 and since mine leaks, it seems a good idea. >> # > >> # > - Landon >> # >> # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: rhino chaser on #27 whaddya think? http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1983-J10-white/2011-04-07-J10-rhino/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Rhino chaser setup thought about getting this setup, but I couldn't figure out how to get my lights in this grille... and I don't feel like wiring this truck... this one goes away when superdawg is done... but how's it look? http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1983-J10-white/2011-04-07-J10-rhino/ALL.html will take pictures in daylight tomorrow... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, JeepNut wrote: # John I found this link in my bookmarks that could be helpful re: rhino parts. # http://www.detoursusa.com/rhinoring.php# # # As well I did a fair bit of reading # on this a few months ago and there is a consideration for the hood shapes as # well as the year of the front clip used. Can't recall the cutoffs for the # proper years, but that info is relatively easy to get. I think that they all # can be MADE to work, but it's worth reading on where the gotcha's are. # # There # was at least one guy selling laser-cut, polished, FLAT grille "similars" for # the center section that looked pretty good and fit the newer year's openings a # little better I think. # # Couldn't find the links I thought I'd saved to the # various forums where this was discussed but I found a LOT of details and at # least one guy who documented most of it step by step w/ photos on a browseable # forum. Was a white Cherokee if you find it... # I'm sure I recall ifsja.org and # Pirate 4x4 forums as having some good info/details but it seems there were a # couple of others that went to some length to document minutia. # # JeepNut # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # '92 Cherokee # Laredo, bought new, an heirloom. Passed to one of # # the grandkids in 2009 -at- # 270K miles.... # # '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. # # '87 # Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. # # '88 Grand Wagoneer # # - '81 AMC 360 # -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, # # TFI System upgrade, TF727 # -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- # # B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, # stainless extended brake lines, # # ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot # 33x12.5x15 # # 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # Registered Linux # user #287453 # # --- On Tue, 4/5/11, john wrote: # # From: # john # Subject: fsj: Rhino chaser setup # To: "FSJ" # # Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 12:49 PM # # What evil awaits # converting an 83 to a rhino chaser setup? Will the 83 hood be ok? I have the # chrome rings but not the round buckets. # # I may put superdawg's grille and # tires on, need both. My "new" michelins are 11 years old now and have a # thousand miles on them. # # Hey, what would be the cause of a water leak in the # front passenger side? Windshield or the vent setup? Wasn't there a repair # article on my server? :) # # # john at http://wagoneers.com # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: OT: diesel, 104 mpg w vw lupo (fwd)(and rhino chaser grille) Diesel... the way to go... :) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michel Balea Here we go, from an interesting website: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/vw-lupo-1-2tdi-3l-112-mpg-16420.html Michel - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- in other news: swapped out my stock (slightly broken) '83 grille for the Daktari/Rhino Chaser grille... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1983-J10-white/2011-04-08-J10-morning-fog/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1983-J10-white/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html and it looks like we're going to keep looking for another Diesel for my wife... she misses the benz... the rav4 has a lot of nice features, but I've spoiled her with jeeps and mercedes, hard to step down to even a like new, low mileage toyota... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Diesel Jeeps 2 - 3 years... "could"... what's wrong with these people? :) we need it now... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Tom Moulder wrote: # http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/04/jeeps-will-get-diesel-engines/1?csp=cars # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:52:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: fuel prices and some general advice/reminders my friend from Holland sent his current fuel prices below my sig file... I tanked up the rav4 (23mpg) at costco for 2.65, the tdi for 4.29, prices US dollar per gallon. I'm heading out to fix the tail lights on my "new" '83 J10 pickup and thinking about a few of the emails off list about things mechanical and feel it's a good idea to bring them up across a wider audience. SOME GENERAL REMINDERS AND TIPS (learned the hard way): (I have links and pictures behind most of these... ;) please add to the list, this was a quick note off the top of my head... the information for a specific type of vehicle is often applicable to other types... electrical connections, vacuum issues, fluids, and so on are somewhat universal... Mercedes Diesels and other vehicles with timing chains: - good idea to replace timing chains and associated hardware around 200,000 miles - valves on OM617s need to be adjusted, ck the chain, mileage will improve if it's in spec - ignition switches on W201 and W124s should be replaced prior to about 175,000 miles... - if you hear a funny sound from the front of the engine, check the OIL pump chain - if your car doesn't shut off, FIX your vacuum leaks - if your door locks don't work, FIX your vacuum leaks - if your climate control does not work, USE MERCEDES BENZ PARTS to fix, you can reflow solder connections first - if you have electrical issues, FIRST replace all the fuses, even if they "look" good. - if your door window doesn't work, do NOT assume it's the window motor, check the switch and connectors first, clean, tighten. VW TDI - belt change at recommended intervals, watch the intake manifold for buildup... - use fuel that has good lubricity - be careful of "wisdom" on the various boards - one group will say block egr, another say reprogram... for now I plan on cleaning again - if you can shift around 2,000 rpm you'll see very good mileage, read that 1,800 is ideal for a Diesel, (not sure which one) XJs - keep an eye on the fuel injector o-rings... if you take that rail off, REPLACE ALL of the O-rings! - keep an eye on the oil level if your rear main leaks - run good oil, change often - if you have a slip yoke, keep an eye on that seal and the ATF level in the aluminum xfr case. - if you have a pre-HO engine, using comfort over power will save about 1mpg, lower shifting rpm - if you replace your injectors make sure they are the right ones... '87-'90 will work in HO and vice versa, mileage will vary. - if you have electrical issues with a non-HO XJ check the bulkhead connector WJs - keep an eye on the coolant levels - especially with the 4.0s (very critical on XJ's mid-99 and up) - if your rotors warp, replace with performance slotted rotors - aftermarket (same is true for Mercedes) - warm the 4.7L up whenever you drive it, use good oil, avoid pennzoil, quaker state, valvoline and cheap brands... sludge is an enemy - avoid 4.0L's in WJ unless you're only driving in town, the 42RE doesn't help mileage on the freeway(18 mpg was my best) - if you're doing a lot of freeway driving, get a 4.7L V8 the 45RFE will get good mileage (21.3 mpg my best) - if you're adding a trailer, USE the factory wiring modules that PLUG in... don't let someone splice into the harness. FSJs - keep intake and exhaust manifolds tight, use loctite when off - replace ALL rubber lines under the hood on an annual basis - recommend jacobs ignition wires (only) or any excellent wires... many ideas on coils/conversion to HEI etc... ymmv - grounds are a big deal, protect wiring - remember an automatic transmission does NOT route ATF to the cooler when in park, idle in NEUTRAL! - if you have a 4.2 the weber carb will improve mileage and performance - if you have a 360/5.9 the edelbrock performer manifold and carb will help mileage... a little bit, but it'll run smoother GENERAL across brands - exercise all the switches and windows monthly - clean battery contacts and make sure grounds are solid - check for wires rubbing and tape up... the handyman's secret weapon is fine... - with newer vehicles recommend using factory parts, especially electrical parts - avoid carfax as a deciding factor in buying a vehicle, they sell FUD... take it to a good mechanic rather - use the lists and forums (google) to troubleshoot... many forums have FAQs (asking is easier and on most lists a friendly way of meeting folks) - as always, amsoil synthetic is my recommendation, been a dealer since 1983: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stef John, here the gas price in the Nethetlands per liter Gas advice price BP Esso Shell Texaco Total Euro95 1.741 1.739 1.739 1.739 1.749 1.739 Super plus 1.809 nvt nvt nvt 1.809 1.809 Super MLV 1.829 1.829 Diesel 1.431 1.429 1.429 1.429 1.439 1.429 LPG 0.820 0.825 0.819 0.809 0.829 0.819 V-Power 1.799 1.799 V-Power Diesel 1.509 1.509 Ultimate ong 98 1.799 1.799 Ultimate Diesel 1.479 1.479 Excellium Benzine 1.799 1.799 Excellium Diesel 1.499 1.499 Euro XL 1.809 1.809 Energy Supreme 1.799 1.799 Laatste prijswijziging: zaterdag 9 april 2011 .,======, oOOo //_____I_,\____\,____ I_/---\__I___/---OIIIIIIIO ._(o)_)_____(o)_)-o--)_)__ Mvg. 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