From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Aug 18 09:25:22 1999 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 525 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Road trip fsj: RE: lockup torque converter Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... fsj: yahoo.. fsj: I need a 4v carb... fsj: 360 oil pressure troubles.... Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... fsj: Spring Height FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:57:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Road trip Well, I'm off to Kirkland! Wife needs a ride home from work and we spent the day yesterday and this morning with the grandsons, so she was too tired to drive! Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:10:04 -0600 From: "Jason Whitaker" Subject: fsj: RE: lockup torque converter Michael, Why did you decide the 4l60e was worth the extra money? It had to cost a bit more than a 700r4 and have more headaches to boot. Is the electronic shifting that much better? Jason Whitaker '78 Wag Loveland CO > you. I don't know how they all work since, I'm using a '98 4L60E for my > retrofit. It has no TV cable like the 700R4 and converter lock-up is truly > electronic. > > > -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter > From Reno, NV USA on 12-Aug-1999 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:05:53 -0700 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Hi,, I was wondering if any one could help me pinpoint a little problem with my 79 about two weeks ago i went camping on some dusty roads, and as I was coming home from the trip, it did some surging, then it would hesitate at a complete stop, say after a stop sign, and a a yuppie comes down the road in a MG convertible midget, which almost hit me, because it stalls or hesitates in the intersection.. It has become quite scary! I changed the air filter, no smell of flooding, almost some back firing in the carb, but the timing is good, at cold start up, runs smoothe and also at idle, it's smooth and it still does it.. could it be the fuel pump?, if so .. where the hell is it? and how much are they? Warm regards.... R.J. Baynum, owner 79 Jeep wagoneer, 360, stock quadra-trac, ford 2v ICQ 29449252 Spokane Wa. also list owner at http:www.onelist.com, "MyNorthwest_Outdoors" For anything you do can do outdoors.... john wrote: > > Ok... the pictures came, and the idea of a J10 from sunny CA went. > > That leaves me with two (currently) options: > > 1) find a stinkin' carb (or manifold) for my wagoneer and > get the silly thing assembled and running > 2) make the guy with the white 76 J10/4spd drum brakes an > offer of $5oo and then convert to power discs... > > or 3) sell everything for scrap metal and save aluminum cans and change > until I can > afford a new Grand Cherokee with dual heating controls and quadradrive... :) > > (I'm striking out in other wheelin' and dealin' too... the 86 xj I was > gonna buy and trade for an 82 or 83 300SD isn't worthy of such a trade... > the motor isn't "new" it's got 65000 miles on it! and it's leaking, and > has a cracked exhaust and the tranny... oh, never mind... :) So I'm stuck > with Fritz, who has a few problems to deal with but nothing pressing... ) > > Anyways... A j10 would be cool, but I have a nice looking Wagoneer with > dual tanks and a rear carrier... just need a carb... > > john > > john > ----------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:14:28 -0700 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: yahoo.. I for got the , or I should , when the puter crashed again.. i lost the link to yahoo club thing, for the list of FSJ. remember? any body have it? I need to book mark it.. for the Jeep sections.. thanks .. R.J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:44:42 -0400 From: Michael Baxter Subject: fsj: I need a 4v carb... john writes: >> I need a 4v carb...for my 77 Wagoneer, 360 v-8, motorcraft 4350 (I think)... It has secondaries the size of... well, they're large... I bought an Edelbrock carb but can't find an adapter anywhere that will work... :( << John, All you need is a 4 hole phenolic spacer which matches the Performer's bores. 1/2" might be okay, but 3/4" preferred. 1" and hood clearance would become an issue. Aluminum could be used but, you're much better off with phenolic. It's easier to work with and it's probably 100 times less heat conductive. Then get a 4150 gasket (you'll need a Performer/AFB gasket for the other side of the spacer as well), index it to one side of the spacer and then scribe the 4340 gasket secondary cutouts onto the phenolic. Grab your die= grinder or Dremel and grind away. Objective: taper the phenolic spacer's holes out to the 4150's pattern. You want me to measure the thickness of the one I have? I know that thickness will work, of course. It is aluminum (came w/ the 401) otherwis= e, you could have it. But I do need it for just 20 mins when I finally break-in my SEFI hybrid. Assuming I decide not to trust the SEFI system a= nd use a carb. for the break-in. Easy...might take you 30-45 mins. >> 3) sell everything for scrap metal and save aluminum cans and change until I can afford a new Grand Cherokee with dual heating controls and quadradrive... :) << Switching to single-ply toilet paper will help too :-) I own stock in the company who licensed the quadra-drive to NV. The stock needs all the help it can get. I would be grateful in some, very, small way if you would indeed buy a GC w/ Q-D :-). -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 17-Aug-1999 = ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:44:40 -0400 From: Michael Baxter Subject: fsj: 360 oil pressure troubles.... "Bednarik, Nathan" writes: >> The oil pump gears and components are all new. Would over torqued bolts effect this? What else do you think it might be? I was going to take it all apart again tonight and re-inspect. What exactly creates the pressure? How do the oil pump components work? << Nathan, Pull the oil pressure relief plug and spring and see if the pisto= n is stuck in the bore unporting the bypass port. After that, I would pull the distributor and make sure nothing is wrong with end of the shaft where it drives the oil pump. Next I would pull the oil pan and check the pick-up tube. If none of this uncovers the problem, the engine needs to be torn down. >> You asked about how an oil pump works...I lost your quote << They're very simple and very reliable. Basically just two gears which mesh together with tight tolerances around them. The oil is passed in a small chamber between the meshed gear teeth. They're self-priming in the application. -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 17-Aug-1999 = ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... A: Possibly the fuel pump, (which is on the left front unless someone put an electric in), but make sure your fuel filter has the drain hose in the 12 O'clock position. It cost almost $15 for one for the neighbour's Matador 304, but the FSJ one may be different. Does it only happen when hot? That's classic fuel boiling symptoms (vaporlock) or the ignition box may be going south. (I have a spare from the '84 GW and used the one from the parts Eagle for mine already) Ray wrote: Hi,, I was wondering if any one could help me pinpoint a little problem with my 79 about two weeks ago i went camping on some dusty roads, and as I was coming home from the trip, it did some surging, then it would hesitate at a complete stop, say after a stop sign, and a a yuppie comes down the road in a MG convertible midget, which almost hit me, because it stalls or hesitates in the intersection.. It has become quite scary! I changed the air filter, no smell of flooding, almost some back firing in the carb, but the timing is good, at cold start up, runs smoothe and also at idle, it's smooth and it still does it.. could it be the fuel pump?, if so .. where the hell is it? and how much are they? Warm regards.... =A0=A0=A0=A0R.J. Baynum, owner 79 Jeep Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal= se ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:02:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... Oh yeah! Timing retarded, vacuum advance being burnt out, or water in your gas can do that too! Get some Redline fuel system treatment. I'm pretty sure they have it in Spokane! Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:45:36 -0700 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... oh i did a Chevron fuel cleaner treatment.. that was a bit expensive too! R.J. James Blair wrote: > > Oh yeah! Timing retarded, vacuum advance being burnt out, or water in > your gas can do that too! Get some Redline fuel system treatment. I'm > pretty sure they have it in Spokane! > > Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs > Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online > Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:44:11 -0700 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... no it will do it when cold, today was better though i replaced that air filter.. but i need too adjust the carb, but can't remember, turn clockwise, but back off how many turns? what about accelerator pump? R.J. Baynum, James Blair wrote: > > A: Possibly the fuel pump, (which is on the left front unless someone > put an electric in), but make sure your fuel filter has the drain hose > in the 12 O'clock position. It cost almost $15 for one for the > neighbour's Matador 304, but the FSJ one may be different. Does it only > happen when hot? That's classic fuel boiling symptoms (vaporlock) or the > ignition box may be going south. (I have a spare from the '84 GW and > used the one from the parts Eagle for mine already) > > Ray wrote: > Hi,, I was wondering if any one could help me pinpoint a little problem > with my 79 about two weeks ago i went camping on some dusty roads, and > as I was coming home from the trip, it did some surging, then it would > hesitate at a complete stop, say after a stop sign, and a a yuppie comes > down the road in a MG convertible midget, which almost hit me, because > it stalls or hesitates in the intersection.. It has become quite scary! > I changed the air filter, no smell of flooding, almost some back firing > in the carb, but the timing is good, at cold start up, runs smoothe and > also at idle, it's smooth and it still does it.. could it be the fuel > pump?, if so .. where the hell is it? and how much are they? > Warm regards.... > R.J. Baynum, owner 79 Jeep > > Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs > Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online > Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: to J10 or to Wagoneer... A: Check down the top of the carb, and move the throttle to see how far it moves before gas comes out. Could be the power valve too! Ray wrote: no it will do it when cold, today was better though i replaced that air filter.. but i need too adjust the carb, but can't remember, turn clockwise, but back off how many turns? what about accelerator pump? R.J. Baynum, James Blair wrote: A: Possibly the fuel pump, (which is on the left front unless someone put an electric in), but make sure your fuel filter has the drain hose in the 12 O'clock position. It cost almost $15 for one for the neighbour's Matador 304, but the FSJ one may be different. Does it only happen when hot? That's classic fuel boiling symptoms (vaporlock) or the ignition box may be going south. (I have a spare from the '84 GW and used the one from the parts Eagle for mine already) Ray wrote: =A0=A0Hi,, I was wondering if any one could help me pinpoint a little problem with my 79 about two weeks ago i went camping on some dusty roads, and as I was coming home from the trip, it did some surging, then it would hesitate at a complete stop, say after a stop sign, and a a yuppie comes down the road in a MG convertible midget, which almost hit me, because it stalls or hesitates in the intersection.. It has become quite scary! I changed the air filter, no smell of flooding, almost some back firing in the carb, but the timing is good, at cold start up, runs smoothe and also at idle, it's smooth and it still does it.. could it be the fuel pump?, if so .. where the hell is it? and how much are they? Warm regards.... =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0R.J. Baynum, owner 79 Jeep Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal= se ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:06:56 -0700 From: Whit Subject: fsj: Spring Height I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I have had 2 sets of rear springs on my J20. One was a used set with an add-a-leaf/block and the other is a pair of new SkyJacker springs. Both sets ended up being 1 - 2 inches shorter on the driver side. Could the gas tank cause the problem seeing as it is on the drivers side? The only other thing that is common to the two sets of springs is the shackles. Not sure why they would cause the problem. I have loosened all the bolts in the hope that it would level but no luck. Any ideas or suggestions? Whit ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #525 *************************