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fsj-digest           Friday, August 20 1999           Volume 01 : Number 527



Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
       Brian Colucci <versicom-at-juno.com>
       Digest Coordinator

Contents:

	Re: fsj: Re: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	fsj: Re: Spring Height (LH Droop)
	fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	fsj: 360 heads
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	fsj: AMC intakes to watch for
	Re: fsj: AMC intakes to watch for
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	fsj: another silly J10 question
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion 
	Re: fsj: another silly J10 question
	fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info
	Re: fsj: another silly J10 question
	Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info
	fsj: RE: another silly J10 question

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:53:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

A: Basically, the old nailhead engine had a bellhousing cast into the
back end of it, that the TH400 was bolted to. It was a design that was
dropped because of casting difficulties, but the case lived on! The
spacers that attach the universal case to other motors sprung up from
outside sales of the tranny to Jaguar, BMW and others that had trouble
building a tranny that would hold together. (My mechanics instructor
(who used to work for GM) went to Britain when the Morris Garage factory
mechanics disassembled the first tranny and couldn't get it to work
again. He took one look at the tranny, (they had taken every piece off,
and buffed them til they shone) and saw that the tolerances had been
wrecked by their buffing, ordered another, put it in, and told them to
never take another apart again! LOL! 
   Anyway, it's just a shorter case that could be made to fit other
motors more easily, because of it's round, centered design. That design
was carried over into big trucks for ease of adapting transmissions from
one truck to another, and called SAE. It comes in different sizes and
patterns for Allison autos and std trannies. I still have one of the 5
ton truck Dodge 361 (big block like 440) housings and flywheels in my
stuff for sale, but it's for a 5 speed standard tranny.

Ben Williams wrote:
By popular consensus I have a Buick Nailhead case (still don't know what
the significance of that is <g>) with a Universal bolt pattern. At least
now I feel like I have some hope of knowing what I'm talking about.
Thanks gang. 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:06:11 -0700
From: "Horn" <horn-at-premier1.net>
Subject: fsj: Re: Spring Height (LH Droop)

>From what I have read, just about every old SJ has the same problem, a 1"
droop to the left hand side.  My 77 drooped just like the rest of them until
I put new Skyjacker 4" lift springs under it.  Its only been about 2 weeks,
so give it awhile, it may start drooping anytime now.
Jerry Horn
Everett, WA

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:41:46 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

Brazzadog-at-aol.com writes:

>> The latest bit of confusion is this:  The tranny shop says I don't hav=
e
a BOP TH400 between the 360 and Dana 20 in my '71 Wagoneer.  They say sin=
ce
it has a round top then it cannot be a BOP TH400.  I had thought that BOP=

TH400s and a 2" adapter were used until '74 or so when the TH400 was
re-cased for the AMC motors.  I can see what looks like a 2" adapter
between my 360 and TH400 so I've assumed (bad, I know) that it was the
stock BOP TH400.  So... if it's not a stock BOP TH400, what is it?
<<

Ben, There was a lot of demand for the TH-400 by other automotive
companies back in the '60s. So GM made a TH-400 case which was 2" shorter=

than the regular GM TH-400 case and was designed from the beginning to us=
e
a 2" adapter plate. Then each company could machine a 2" thick adapter to=

mate it to their own engines. They called it the Universal TH-400. It won=
't
fit anything without an adapter since the front case pattern is unique.

Jeep, Jaguar, Rolls Royce, etc. used the Universal TH-400. And they all
made adapters for their engines.

Around '72, Jeep's production was rising under AMC's wing to the point
that designing and producing a case for the TH-400 with an integral AMC
bell housing bolt pattern became feasible. The cost of time req'd to scre=
w
the Universal TH-400s to the adapters and then to the engines exceeded th=
e
cost of developing the integral TH-400 case. And you know if the auto
manufacturers figured they could save 2 cents per unit, they would.

Jeep made 3 different adapter rings for the Universal TH-400. AMC 327,
Buick 350 and finally the one you have; the AMC 304/360. The Buick 350 is=
 a
BOP pattern engine. I'm not certain if the Buick Nailhead used the BOP
pattern as well or not?. The Nailheads were last produced about '66.

BOP stands for Buick, Olds and Pontiac. Cadillac also used the BOP
pattern, but for some reason they were left out of the acronym.


"Ken Wetherall" <kenns9-at-earthlink.net> writes:

>> were these round top non-cadillac th400s used in other makes??? or is
this type just a massed produced version so the end user wood simply make=

an adaptor to mate this 'universal' th400 to their engine???
<<

Ken explained the same thing I did above already i see. Except he did it
in Ken Speak and I can only read Ken speak. Can't write it :-).


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 19-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:41:49 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: 360 heads

"Chuck Scappaticci" <cscappaticci-at-uswest.net> writes:

>>  Are the heads compatible/identical.  Which year 401s are bolt ins in =
my
88 GW?
<<

James was already here and I'll second what he said exactly. He
mentioned removing the sleeve from the recess in the back of the crank if=

the donor engine came in front of a TH-400 in a Jeep. I'll reiterate. Tha=
t
sleeve is hard to see, but it has to come out.

Also if your '88 uses the gear driven Mitsubishi (or Hitachi..which ever
one made it) starter, you have to swap it out for a Motorcraft starter wh=
en
you install the 401.


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 19-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:52:24 -0700
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com (WA state nospam)>
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

yes... kenspeak...  a unique form of communication indeed. :)

I kind of miss his posts... why don't you persuade him to join us on
the new list. :)   If you see him say howdy for me.  Not sure when I'll
be down in the bay area again... hopefully later this year or next
spring... :)

john

At 10:41 PM 8/19/99 -0400, Michael Baxter wrote:
>"Ken Wetherall" <kenns9-at-earthlink.net> writes:
>Ken explained the same thing I did above already i see. Except he did it
>in Ken Speak and I can only read Ken speak. Can't write it :-).
> -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:54:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

Michael=A0Baxter wrote:
I'm not certain if the Buick Nailhead used the BOP pattern as well or
not?. The Nailheads were last produced about '66. 

The Buick nailhead had a cast bellhousing that was part of the block,
and the universal TH400 bolted directly to it. Before that, the cast
iron Powerglide attached to it. (I had one. A '62 Skylark with a 301)

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:49:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: fsj: AMC intakes to watch for

A little tidbit from the AMC-list. Hey John! What's the # on yours? <G>

Greg wrote: 
Subject: Re: "Machine" Intake Manifold 
The Rebel Machine manifold part number is 319-9763, as listed in
Performance American Style. Listed: "It has outstanding torque
characteristics between 3000-6500 RPM...and is superior to the Edelbrock
R4B between 3000 and 5500 RPM. Made of cast iron and uses Holley bolt
pattern." 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:57:14 -0700
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com (WA state nospam)>
Subject: Re: fsj: AMC intakes to watch for

dunno... but mine uses a motorcraft pattern, not a holley... :(
shoot... should have showed you the manifold when you were here the 
other day... duh...  we've only been trying to figure the carb out
on this thing since I got it... :)

john

At 09:49 PM 8/19/99 -0700, James Blair wrote:
>A little tidbit from the AMC-list. Hey John! What's the # on yours? <G>
>
>Greg wrote: 
>Subject: Re: "Machine" Intake Manifold 
>The Rebel Machine manifold part number is 319-9763, as listed in
>Performance American Style. Listed: "It has outstanding torque
>characteristics between 3000-6500 RPM...and is superior to the Edelbrock
>R4B between 3000 and 5500 RPM. Made of cast iron and uses Holley bolt
>pattern." 
>
>Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
>Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
>Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 
>
>
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     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:37:54 -0700
From: Whit <bigdog-at-netdog.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

AA does make an adapter to mate the 700R4 to an AMC motor.  The part number 
is 716138.  Sorry, I don't have a price.  I don't think this is the same 
piece as the one used on the universal 400s since it is meant to adapt a 
Chevy tranny to an AMC block.  Does anyone know if there is a non 
electronic version of the 4L80E?  That would be the torque monster!

Whit

Whit

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:23:23 -0600
From: "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

Price: $240 plus flexplate 61.00
229 t-case adapter 380.00
QT t-case adapter 420.00

Jason Whitaker
'78 Wag
Loveland CO 

> AA does make an adapter to mate the 700R4 to an AMC motor.  The 
> part number 
> is 716138.  Sorry, I don't have a price.  I don't think this is the same 
> piece as the one used on the universal 400s since it is meant to adapt a 
> Chevy tranny to an AMC block.  Does anyone know if there is a non 
> electronic version of the 4L80E?  That would be the torque monster!
> 
> Whit
> 
> Whit
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:32:59 -0700
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com (WA state nospam)>
Subject: RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

At 12:23 AM 8/20/99 -0600, Jason Whitaker wrote:

>229 t-case adapter 380.00

Why wouldn't a 700R4 bolt right up to a NP xfr case???

Thanx for the info Jason... I'm just sitting here looking at pictures
of J10's and doing the Diesel FSJ dreaming again... 700r4's often
live behind the 6.2/6.5L Diesels... :)

It'd be cheaper to run the chevy xfr case...  although I'm not sure
it that would be the best choice... my GM 4x4's never performed as
well off road as my Jeeps... :)

john

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 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:50:18 -0600
From: "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs. I was hoping
to bolt in a t700/np229 so a centered rear d60 could be used without any
narrowing if I decided that was the way to go. Alias it was not to be, a
chevy 208 was the cheapest. But I agree I want my jeep tcase so I'm sticking
with my QT.

Jason Whitaker
'78 Wag
Loveland CO

> At 12:23 AM 8/20/99 -0600, Jason Whitaker wrote:
>
> >229 t-case adapter 380.00
>
> Why wouldn't a 700R4 bolt right up to a NP xfr case???
>
> Thanx for the info Jason... I'm just sitting here looking at pictures
> of J10's and doing the Diesel FSJ dreaming again... 700r4's often
> live behind the 6.2/6.5L Diesels... :)
>
> It'd be cheaper to run the chevy xfr case...  although I'm not sure
> it that would be the best choice... my GM 4x4's never performed as
> well off road as my Jeeps... :)
>
> john
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>  john-at-wagoneers.com      http://www.wagoneers.com
>      ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
>  Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
> -----------------------------------------------------
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:54:11 -0600
From: "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

And my offset rear end, and my obsolete, hard to get parts for QT. :)

> The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs. I was hoping
> to bolt in a t700/np229 so a centered rear d60 could be used without any
> narrowing if I decided that was the way to go. Alias it was not to be, a
> chevy 208 was the cheapest. But I agree I want my jeep tcase so
> I'm sticking
> with my QT.
>
> Jason Whitaker
> '78 Wag
> Loveland CO
>

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:01:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: another silly J10 question

ok...  sitting here thinking...

	would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up
  to a 76 J10?   And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then 
	be able to mount to the 77 Wagoneer?

:-)
john

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion 

Whit wrote: 
AA does make an adapter to mate the 700R4 to an AMC motor. The part
number is 716138. Sorry, I don't have a price. I don't think this is the
same piece as the one used on the universal 400s since it is meant to
adapt a Chevy tranny to an AMC block. Does anyone know if there is a non
electronic version of the 4L80E? That would be the torque monster! 

A: That would be a 4L80 (E is for electronic) Maybe Sea-Tac transmission 
may have one, or know where to get one. 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:24:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: another silly J10 question

A: They are not the same mounting spots. J10 has almost the same width (
an inch wider) as the wide track Cherokee axles, according to what Joe
Schaeffer and George the Jeep have written about them, but aren't bolt
in for the model 18s.

john wrote:
ok... sitting here thinking... 
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0would the axles and
springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up to a 76 J10? =A0 And would the axles
and springs from the 76 J10 then 
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0be able to mount to the
77 Wagoneer? 
:-) 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal=
se 

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info

>From the "other" list:
"MadMarx" <madmarx-at-jeep-l.4x4.org> wrote: 
The only problem with that Jack is from what I have heard the 700r4 has
a different spline count, not the 23 spline from a dana300. I believe
the 700r4 spline count is 32. 
Please, somebody tell me I am wrong and that the 700r4 has a 23 spline
count Mark 
There is indeedy a 700R4 out there with a 23 spline. It's either a 231
or 241. JB Conversions uses all GM parts in the kit that they sell to
mate a 700 to a D300 ... The key is to get the 'right' 700R4 ... 
=A0=A0- jack
'78 J-10
Decatur, AL 

Holley info:

A: Motorcraft and Holley come from the same castings! I swung by on last
sunday eve, but no-one was home. We'll have to put it on our list of
things to do! I'll be cruising by on Wed about noon on my way to Canada
again.  

John wrote: 
dunno... but mine uses a motorcraft pattern, not a holley... :( shoot...
should have showed you the manifold when you were here the other day...
duh... we've only been trying to figure the carb out on this thing since
I got it... :)  john 

At 09:49 PM 8/19/99 -0700, James Blair wrote: A little tidbit from the
AMC-list. Hey John! What's the # on yours? <G> Greg wrote:  Subject: Re:
"Machine" Intake Manifold 
The Rebel Machine manifold part number is 319-9763, as listed in
Performance American Style. Listed: "It has outstanding torque
characteristics between 3000-6500 RPM...and is superior to the Edelbrock
R4B between 3000 and 5500 RPM. Made of cast iron and uses Holley bolt
pattern."

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal=
se 

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:25:30 -0700
From: Thunderbird <black97tbird-at-xoommail.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: another silly J10 question

john wrote:
 > ok...  sitting here thinking...
 > 
 > 	would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up
 >   to a 76 J10?   And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then 
 > 	be able to mount to the 77 Wagoneer?
 
Don't quote me on this...I think the spring mounts are spaced farther apart 
in the rear on the truck. (or did this happen later?)

Brian
78 J-10 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44
97 Thunderbird 4.6 V8/Sport/LSD

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, James Blair wrote:

>-->Holley info:
>-->
>-->A: Motorcraft and Holley come from the same castings! I swung by on last
>-->sunday eve, but no-one was home. We'll have to put it on our list of
>-->things to do! I'll be cruising by on Wed about noon on my way to Canada
>-->again.  

the old carb is on the bench next to the wag... can't miss it.
pop the hood and move the plastic and metal cover and take a look.
try to remind me the day before so I can tell my family so you don't
end up looking down the barrel of something you'd rather not look down. :)
(they're all marksmen..., no wait, they're sharpshooters, I'm the marksmen... :)

john


>-->
>-->John wrote: 
>-->dunno... but mine uses a motorcraft pattern, not a holley... :( shoot...
>-->should have showed you the manifold when you were here the other day...
>-->duh... we've only been trying to figure the carb out on this thing since
>-->I got it... :)  john 
>-->
>-->At 09:49 PM 8/19/99 -0700, James Blair wrote: A little tidbit from the
>-->AMC-list. Hey John! What's the # on yours? <G> Greg wrote:  Subject: Re:
>-->"Machine" Intake Manifold 
>-->The Rebel Machine manifold part number is 319-9763, as listed in
>-->Performance American Style. Listed: "It has outstanding torque
>-->characteristics between 3000-6500 RPM...and is superior to the Edelbrock
>-->R4B between 3000 and 5500 RPM. Made of cast iron and uses Holley bolt
>-->pattern."
>-->
>-->Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
>-->Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
>-->Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 
>-->
>-->

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                      http://wagoneers.com 
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: RE: another silly J10 question

wider is only better if you don't have tight trails in the woods... :)
john

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, JC Jones wrote:

>-->Well,
>-->   Let me know what you find out.  I would really like to have a WideTrack
>-->Wagoneer...especially since I am looking a doing a new lift adding about 4
>-->more inches and running 38" tires.  Wider is Better!
>-->
>-->JC  :)
>-->
>-->
>-->           ____________            <|
>-->        __|____________|___________/\_
>-->       //------------||------||------\\
>-->      //             ||      ||       \\
>-->     //______________||______||________\\_____________
>-->    |                    JC Jones                     \
>-->    |         jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com       | |
>-->    |     ________     ICQ#  2857320      ________    | |
>-->   _|    / ______ \                      / ______ \   |_|
>-->  [_____/ /  __  \ \____________________/ /  __  \ \____]
>-->         |  /  \  |   76 Wagoneer 401    |  /  \  |
>-->         |  \__/  |    "Road Warrior"    |  \__/  |
>-->          \______/                        \______/
>-->
>-->-----Original Message-----
>-->From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com]
>-->Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:39 PM
>-->To: JC Jones
>-->Subject: RE: another silly J10 question
>-->
>-->
>-->I want to put regular, newer axles underneath..  :)
>-->
>-->I figure to put the widetracs under the 77 and even put the front fenders
>-->from the j10 on the wag, along with the grille... :)
>-->
>-->gotta call the guy with the 76 again.... :)
>-->john
>-->
>-->
>-->On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, JC Jones wrote:
>-->
>-->>-->I don't know, but I would like to know because I would really like to
>-->put
>-->>-->wide track axels under my 76 Wagoneer.
>-->>-->
>-->>-->JC Jones  :)
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->           ____________            <|
>-->>-->        __|____________|___________/\_
>-->>-->       //------------||------||------\\
>-->>-->      //             ||      ||       \\
>-->>-->     //______________||______||________\\_____________
>-->>-->    |                    JC Jones                     \
>-->>-->    |         jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com       | |
>-->>-->    |     ________     ICQ#  2857320      ________    | |
>-->>-->   _|    / ______ \                      / ______ \   |_|
>-->>-->  [_____/ /  __  \ \____________________/ /  __  \ \____]
>-->>-->         |  /  \  |   76 Wagoneer 401    |  /  \  |
>-->>-->         |  \__/  |    "Road Warrior"    |  \__/  |
>-->>-->          \______/                        \______/
>-->>-->
>-->>-->-----Original Message-----
>-->>-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of
>-->>-->john
>-->>-->Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:01 AM
>-->>-->To: full size jeep list
>-->>-->Subject: fsj: another silly J10 question
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->ok...  sitting here thinking...
>-->>-->
>-->>-->	would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up
>-->>-->  to a 76 J10?   And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then
>-->>-->	be able to mount to the 77 Wagoneer?
>-->>-->
>-->>-->:-)
>-->>-->john
>-->>-->
>-->>-->    ----
>-->>-->
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>-->-
>-->>-->        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA
>-->>-->            don't leave life without jesus, please...
>-->>-->                      http://wagoneers.com
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>-->-
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->
>-->    ----
>-->
>-->-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA
>-->            don't leave life without jesus, please...
>-->                      http://wagoneers.com
>-->-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->
>-->
>-->
>-->

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        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA 
            don't leave life without jesus, please...
                      http://wagoneers.com 
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