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fsj-digest          Saturday, August 21 1999          Volume 01 : Number 528



Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:

	Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info
	fsj: RE: RE: another silly J10 question
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion 
	Re: fsj: 700r4 to ?
	fsj: another silly J10 question
	fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info
	fsj: buick 'nailhead' th400 case???
	fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info
	Re: fsj: another silly J10 question
	RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	Re: fsj: another silly J10 question
	fsj: RE: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	fsj: 401 Camshaft & Intake manifold recommendations needed
	Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	Re: fsj: RE: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion
	Re: fsj: Re: FS: 360 heads

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info

A: Are you sure that's not the Marx brothers? <G>

John wrote:
the old carb is on the bench next to the wag... can't miss it. pop the
hood and move the plastic and metal cover and take a look. try to remind
me the day before so I can tell my family so you don't end up looking
down the barrel of something you'd rather not look down. :) (they're all
marksmen..., no wait, they're sharpshooters, I'm the marksmen... :) 
john 

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: RE: RE: another silly J10 question

if they didn't salt the roads I'd give serious thought to CO. :)
john

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, JC Jones wrote:

>-->Well, you know we don't have any trees out here in the Rockies...Just Rocks
>--><LOL>  Besides that, the Hummers are so popular out here that the narrow
>-->trails have all been "widened".
>-->
>-->JC  :)
>-->
>-->
>-->           ____________            <|
>-->        __|____________|___________/\_
>-->       //------------||------||------\\
>-->      //             ||      ||       \\
>-->     //______________||______||________\\_____________
>-->    |                    JC Jones                     \
>-->    |         jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com       | |
>-->    |     ________     ICQ#  2857320      ________    | |
>-->   _|    / ______ \                      / ______ \   |_|
>-->  [_____/ /  __  \ \____________________/ /  __  \ \____]
>-->         |  /  \  |   76 Wagoneer 401    |  /  \  |
>-->         |  \__/  |    "Road Warrior"    |  \__/  |
>-->          \______/                        \______/
>-->
>-->-----Original Message-----
>-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of
>-->john
>-->Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:54 PM
>-->To: JC Jones
>-->Cc: full size jeep list
>-->Subject: fsj: RE: another silly J10 question
>-->
>-->
>-->
>-->wider is only better if you don't have tight trails in the woods... :)
>-->john
>-->
>-->On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, JC Jones wrote:
>-->
>-->>-->Well,
>-->>-->   Let me know what you find out.  I would really like to have a
>-->WideTrack
>-->>-->Wagoneer...especially since I am looking a doing a new lift adding about
>-->4
>-->>-->more inches and running 38" tires.  Wider is Better!
>-->>-->
>-->>-->JC  :)
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->           ____________            <|
>-->>-->        __|____________|___________/\_
>-->>-->       //------------||------||------\\
>-->>-->      //             ||      ||       \\
>-->>-->     //______________||______||________\\_____________
>-->>-->    |                    JC Jones                     \
>-->>-->    |         jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com       | |
>-->>-->    |     ________     ICQ#  2857320      ________    | |
>-->>-->   _|    / ______ \                      / ______ \   |_|
>-->>-->  [_____/ /  __  \ \____________________/ /  __  \ \____]
>-->>-->         |  /  \  |   76 Wagoneer 401    |  /  \  |
>-->>-->         |  \__/  |    "Road Warrior"    |  \__/  |
>-->>-->          \______/                        \______/
>-->>-->
>-->>-->-----Original Message-----
>-->>-->From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com]
>-->>-->Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:39 PM
>-->>-->To: JC Jones
>-->>-->Subject: RE: another silly J10 question
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->I want to put regular, newer axles underneath..  :)
>-->>-->
>-->>-->I figure to put the widetracs under the 77 and even put the front
>-->fenders
>-->>-->from the j10 on the wag, along with the grille... :)
>-->>-->
>-->>-->gotta call the guy with the 76 again.... :)
>-->>-->john
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, JC Jones wrote:
>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->I don't know, but I would like to know because I would really like
>-->to
>-->>-->put
>-->>-->>-->wide track axels under my 76 Wagoneer.
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->JC Jones  :)
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->           ____________            <|
>-->>-->>-->        __|____________|___________/\_
>-->>-->>-->       //------------||------||------\\
>-->>-->>-->      //             ||      ||       \\
>-->>-->>-->     //______________||______||________\\_____________
>-->>-->>-->    |                    JC Jones                     \
>-->>-->>-->    |         jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com       | |
>-->>-->>-->    |     ________     ICQ#  2857320      ________    | |
>-->>-->>-->   _|    / ______ \                      / ______ \   |_|
>-->>-->>-->  [_____/ /  __  \ \____________________/ /  __  \ \____]
>-->>-->>-->         |  /  \  |   76 Wagoneer 401    |  /  \  |
>-->>-->>-->         |  \__/  |    "Road Warrior"    |  \__/  |
>-->>-->>-->          \______/                        \______/
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->-----Original Message-----
>-->>-->>-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of
>-->>-->>-->john
>-->>-->>-->Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:01 AM
>-->>-->>-->To: full size jeep list
>-->>-->>-->Subject: fsj: another silly J10 question
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->ok...  sitting here thinking...
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->	would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up
>-->>-->>-->  to a 76 J10?   And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10
>-->then
>-->>-->>-->	be able to mount to the 77 Wagoneer?
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->:-)
>-->>-->>-->john
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->    ----
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->--------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->----
>-->>-->-
>-->>-->>-->        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA
>-->>-->>-->            don't leave life without jesus, please...
>-->>-->>-->                      http://wagoneers.com
>-->>-->>-->--------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->----
>-->>-->-
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->    ----
>-->>-->
>-->>-->------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->-
>-->>-->        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA
>-->>-->            don't leave life without jesus, please...
>-->>-->                      http://wagoneers.com
>-->>-->------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->-
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->>-->
>-->
>-->    ----
>-->
>-->-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA
>-->            don't leave life without jesus, please...
>-->                      http://wagoneers.com
>-->-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-->
>-->
>-->
>-->
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    ----

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA 
            don't leave life without jesus, please...
                      http://wagoneers.com 
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:31:09 EDT
From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion 

Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) wrote:

>Whit wrote: 
>AA does make an adapter to mate the 700R4 to an AMC motor. The part
>number is 716138. Sorry, I don't have a price. I don't think this is the
>same piece as the one used on the universal 400s since it is meant to
>adapt a Chevy tranny to an AMC block. Does anyone know if there is a non
>electronic version of the 4L80E? That would be the torque monster! 
>
>A: That would be a 4L80 (E is for electronic) Maybe Sea-Tac transmission 
>may have one, or know where to get one. 

Seems like I saw one but I can't remember where.  Try these:

<http://www.hughesperformance.com/index.htm>
<http://www.jetchip.com/>

Anybody know of a website for B&M Transmissions?

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer

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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:27:33 -0400
From: Raymond C Drouillard <cosmic.ray-at-juno.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: 700r4 to ?

>>> I saw a lincoln with a double-cardon on both ends of the driveshaft.
>Would I have to do anything special to get away with doing that myself?
><<
>
>I would not think that is possible unless the driveline length was fixed
>(no slip-joint) and the axle mounted solid (no suspension)? Seems like
as
>soon as the driveshaft started to turn, the thing would flail all over
the
>place because the splines in the slip joint would let it extend. The
>whole driveshaft would then rotate off-center of a line between the the
>output and the pinion yokes?

There was some kind of a retainer going from the driveshaft to the
double-cardon.  I figure that that keeps it from flopping.

Certainly, with no retainer, the driveshaft would simply drop down.  Come
to think of it, that would happen to a double-cardon on one end.

The retainers obviously stop that in the Lincold.  I think that there is
some kind of a pinion that keeps the driveshaft center in line with the
centerline of the output shaft.  I never had one apart, though.

Ray

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:21:08 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: another silly J10 question

john <john-at-wagoneers.com> writes:

>> would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up to a 76 J10?  =

And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then be able to mount to
the 77 Wagoneer?
<<

The fronts will swap but, the J-10's is more than 5" wider wheel flange
to wheel flange than the Wag's. The rears will not swap w/o moving spring=

pads and the J-10's rear D-44 is even wider than the rear D-44 from a WT
Cherokee.


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:21:09 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info

Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) writes:

>> There is indeedy a 700R4 out there with a 23 spline. It's either a 231=

or 241. JB Conversions uses all GM parts in the kit that they sell to mat=
e
a 700 to a D300 ... The key is to get the 'right' 700R4 ... =

<<

Some may remember (I'm betting most of those brain cells are now dead
though :-) ) that I had to swap the output shaft in the '98 4L60E I had
built by Art Carr. The 4L60/4L60E uses a different output shaft than the
700R4. What the difference is I don't know but, the end inside the tranni=
es
are identical.

When Randy at Advance told me I needed the700R4 output shaft, I asked him=

for an application. He put me on hold and asked the resident guru and the=

answer was "any 4WD 700R4." That made me nervous. =


When I ordered the shaft from the local GMC dealer, I asked the parts
guy (Tony...who I know) to look-up several applications starting in '88
(the 1st model year 700R4 you would want). It was true. The last year we
looked at was '92, but I'm sure the pre '88 4WD 700R4s would have also
turned-up with the same part #.

So my 4L60E has the only 4WD 700R4 output shaft ever used installed which=

is modified to Advance's specs. so it will work with the 700R4 to BW Q-T
adapter kit.

>> A: Motorcraft and Holley come from the same castings! I swung by on
last sunday eve, but no-one was home. We'll have to put it on our list of=

things to do! I'll be cruising by on Wed about noon on my way to Canada
again. =

<<

John, Keep in mind the Motorcraft 4350 uses the wide square-bore
mounting pattern in spite of the fact it is a spread-bore carb. The thing=

to watch-out for is there are two square-bore patterns and it is likely t=
he
Holley 4bbl will use the narrow version.

Plus, I'm sure James meant the Holley and Motorcraft carbs were cast in
the same foundry and not that the 4350 used the same castings as a Holley=

carb.


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:21:10 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: buick 'nailhead' th400 case???

Brazzadog-at-aol.com writes:

>> I don't know about any spacer.  I also don't know why a BOP 700R4 woul=
d
be better than a Chevy/GMC 4x4 700R4.
<<

Ben, It is just some have assumed you have a Buick 350. In which case a
BOP cased 700R4 would be advantageous.


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:21:06 -0400
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

"Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net> writes:

>> The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs.
<<

I also just learned the GM NP-208 has a slip-yoke :-(. The Jeep NP-208 ha=
s
a solid rear output shaft which is the way it should be.


 -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
 =

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Holleys and 700r4 info

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Michael Baxter wrote:
>-->John, Keep in mind the Motorcraft 4350 uses the wide square-bore
>-->mounting pattern in spite of the fact it is a spread-bore carb. The thing
>-->to watch-out for is there are two square-bore patterns and it is likely the
>-->Holley 4bbl will use the narrow version.

EXACTLY what I've found...  I should scan in the gasket so you can see the pattern. :)

>-->
>-->Plus, I'm sure James meant the Holley and Motorcraft carbs were cast in
>-->the same foundry and not that the 4350 used the same castings as a Holley
>-->carb.

either way, I'm confused. :)  

>-->
>-->
>--> -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
>--> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
>--> From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
>--> 
>-->

    ----

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA 
            don't leave life without jesus, please...
                      http://wagoneers.com 
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:25:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: another silly J10 question

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Michael Baxter wrote:

>-->john <john-at-wagoneers.com> writes:
>-->
>-->>> would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up to a 76 J10?  
>-->And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then be able to mount to
>-->the 77 Wagoneer?
>--><<
>-->
>-->The fronts will swap but, the J-10's is more than 5" wider wheel flange
>-->to wheel flange than the Wag's. The rears will not swap w/o moving spring
>-->pads and the J-10's rear D-44 is even wider than the rear D-44 from a WT
>-->Cherokee.

I will move the 77 wag front fenders and grille to the 76 j10 if I get it. :)
so the front sounds doable...

the rear...
spring pads? oh... because the frame is wider... hmmm....   Maybe I could
get the same ratio up front as it comes with in the back... might happen...
the only problem is... no, wait, the 76 has 6 lugs, so it'll work.

I made an offer on the 76, guy said no way... :)  He's gonna think about it
though...  (this is the 76 with the 4speed, drum brakes up front and wasn't
running... he's got it running now... :)

I'll double check my notes on ratios... otherwise I'll have to get a different
j10 rear axle... or do some mods...

john

>-->
>-->
>--> -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
>--> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
>--> From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
>--> 
>-->

    ----

- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
        john-at-wagoneers.com   ****   Snohomish, Washington USA 
            don't leave life without jesus, please...
                      http://wagoneers.com 
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:50:04 -0600
From: "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

I couldn't find anything on a chevy 229, as far as I can tell there was no
such beast. The only full time chevy case I could find was the 203. It could
be adapted by installing a $150 AA output shaft into the 700r4.
oops, nothing you'd want since it has a right side front output.
Seems that anything except a chevy np208 or I think Jim said a 242? will
need an adapter to mate to a 700. :(

Jason Whitaker
'78 Wag
Loveland CO

> What's the difference between the Jeep 229 and the Chevy 229?  If I find
> a 700 R4 mated to a Chevy NP 229 in the boneyard, will it directly
> replace (with an engine adapter) the stock TF727/NP229 combo I have now?
>
> Ray Drouillard
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:50:18 -0600 "Jason Whitaker"
> <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net> writes:
> >The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs. I was
> hoping
> >to bolt in a t700/np229 so a centered rear d60 could be used without any
> >narrowing if I decided that was the way to go. Alias it was not to be, a
> >chevy 208 was the cheapest. But I agree I want my jeep tcase so I'm
> sticking
> >with my QT.
> >
> >Jason Whitaker
> >'78 Wag
> >Loveland CO

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: another silly J10 question

A: Why not get a Widetrack rear axle, and swap the guts from the J10
rear into it? It would be a bolt in job then! (If they are 3.07 D44, I
have at least one set I can spare)

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Michael Baxter wrote: 
john <john-at-wagoneers.com> writes: 
would the axles and springs from my 77 Wagoneer bolt up to a 76 J10? 
And would the axles and springs from the 76 J10 then be able to mount to
the 77 Wagoneer? 
<< 
The fronts will swap but, the J-10's is more than 5" wider wheel flange
to wheel flange than the Wag's. The rears will not swap w/o moving
spring pads and the J-10's rear D-44 is even wider than the rear D-44
from a WT Cherokee. 
I will move the 77 wag front fenders and grille to the 76 j10 if I get
it. :) so the front sounds doable... 
the rear... 
spring pads? oh... because the frame is wider... hmmm.... =A0 Maybe I
could get the same ratio up front as it comes with in the back... might
happen... the only problem is... no, wait, the 76 has 6 lugs, so it'll
work. 
I made an offer on the 76, guy said no way... :) He's gonna think about
it though... (this is the 76 with the 4speed, drum brakes up front and
wasn't running... he's got it running now... :) 
I'll double check my notes on ratios... otherwise I'll have to get a
different
j10 rear axle... or do some mods... 
john 
- -- Michael Baxter, 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal=
se 

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:58:56 -0600
From: "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: fsj: RE: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

The solid yoke conversions for a 231 are over $600! Even assuming someone
makes a similar kit for the 208, I'd rather spend my money on adapting in a
solid tcase to begin with. Cost a lot less too.

Jason Whitaker
'78 Wag
Loveland CO

> "Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net> writes:
>
> >> The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs.
> <<
>
> I also just learned the GM NP-208 has a slip-yoke :-(. The Jeep NP-208 has
> a solid rear output shaft which is the way it should be.
>
>
>  -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com
>  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
>  From Reno, NV USA on 20-Aug-1999
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:29:44 EDT
From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com
Subject: fsj: 401 Camshaft & Intake manifold recommendations needed

   I've got a 401 that's just eaten it's cam...  The lower end is still good, 
so I need a replacement, and WHILE I'VE (recognize this syndrome???) got the 
intake off, it'd be a good time to change that, too...  Sooo...  We do tow a 
large boat/trailer (better part of 10,000lbs) so please keep that in mind.  
Recommendations anybody???

Chris

'78 Cherokee

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:40:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

"Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net> writes: 
The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs. << 

I also just learned the GM NP-208 has a slip-yoke :-(. The Jeep NP-208
has a solid rear output shaft which is the way it should be. 
=A0=A0-- Michael Baxter,

A: There is a slip yoke eliminator available, but can't rember who (it
was bandied around on the XJ-list recently) 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal=
se 

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:56:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: RE: 700R4 swap and TH-400 confusion

A: Ouch! Then get the output shaft from a Jeep 208 and out it in. 

Jason=A0Whitaker wrote:
The solid yoke conversions for a 231 are over $600! Even assuming
someone makes a similar kit for the 208, I'd rather spend my money on
adapting in a solid tcase to begin with. Cost a lot less too. 
Jason Whitaker
'78 Wag
Loveland CO 
"Jason Whitaker" <whitakeroil-at-earthlink.net> writes: 
The Jeep NPs have different bolt patterns than the Chevy NPs. << 
I also just learned the GM NP-208 has a slip-yoke :-(. The Jeep NP-208
has a solid rear output shaft which is the way it should be. 
=A0=A0=A0=A0-- Michael Baxter, 

Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs
Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online
Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfal=
se 

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:46:02 -0600
From: "Chuck Scappaticci" <cscappaticci-at-uswest.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: FS: 360 heads

I'm also thinking of having my heads milled (360 or 401, whichever engine
I decide to go with) to get my compression up from 8.25 to 9.0 to 1.   Any
do's and don'ts you folks have experienced.  I live at 6000 ft. altitude and
typically do my 4-wheeling between 9000 - 11000 feet elevation so
restoring compression lost due to altitude is a big deal.  If I have to use
high test at sea level (which my jeep has never seen) it isn't a problem.  I
would
like to continue burning our 85 octane regular in Colorado due to cost....
- -----Original Message-----
From: James Blair <Carnuck-at-webtv.net>
To: fsj-at-digest.net <fsj-at-digest.net>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: FS: 360 heads


A: '72 and newer 401 works, but you have to get a 727 401 flexplate (75
Matador works) because the balance is different. The heads are all the
same pretty much, after '72. You also have to remove the TH400 crank
adapter if the 401 is from a Jeep. '78 is the last factory year for the
401, AFAIK.

Chuck wrote:
I've got an 88 GW with a 360 V8. I plan to go to 401 (more torque,
forged crank and rods) when I need a rebuild (the 360 is currently
running strong). Are the heads compatible/identical. Which year 401s are
bolt ins in my 88 GW? Any help appreciated... -----Original
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From: Allan Weidenheimer <allanw-at-pacific.telebyte.com>
To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net <fsj-digest-at-digest.net>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 10:14 AM
Subject: fsj: FS: 360 heads
I have a pair of 360 heads that I got from John when I was rebuilding my
engine. Only later did I learn of the change in rocker style--these
heads use the earlier adjustable type that use studs in the head. My
previous heads used the fixed fulcrum style. Not wanting to buy all new
rockers, I found another set of heads at a local wrecking yard. If
anyone wants them, they are $50 as is (exactly what I paid John) or, I
can get them magged for cracks and the price goes up to something like
$100, which is what I had to pay for the other ones, which the yard
guaranteed were not cracked. I'm in Kingston WA, but get over to the
Seattle area frequently on the weekend.
Allan Weidenheimer
84 GW

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