From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Sep 22 08:20:27 1999 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, September 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 557 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: (no subject) fsj: the root beer shake... Re: fsj: the root beer shake... fsj: Re: Looking for a Wagonner (who isn't?) Re: fsj: Re: Looking for a Wagoneer (who isn't?) fsj: Re: [TXTK] Something differant fsj: more on urban legends... fsj: FWD: My J truck still for sale.... go figure [none] fsj: Re: fair trade??? Re: fsj: Re: fair trade??? fsj: Re: Ad 302430 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:11:52 -0400 From: Michael Baxter Subject: fsj: (no subject) Grtdaneguy-at-aol.com writes: >> O.K. guys, my 81 Wagoneer idles nicely when it's first started, but the when it warms up it idles really rough (almost to the point of stalling) Any ideas????? << It may be the EGR system is hooked-up to manifold vacuum instead of port vacuum and when the 115 F (or whatever temp. your's is) EGR CTO open= s, it sucks the EGR valve open. And it could be a vacuum leak. I'd suggest you get a hold of a '81 vacuum diagram (which I don't have) and make sure all the hoses are route= d correctly. -- Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Sep-1999 = ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:38:41 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: the root beer shake... We ate fast food tonight... decided to have a shake for dessert... so I figured I'd try a 'root beer' milkshake... It just didn't taste right, but I was drinking it anyways when I felt something come up the straw, you know, like a chunk of strawberry or a cherry... but wait, I'm drinking a root beer shake... so I spit the "chunk" into a napkin and lo and behold, it's a bee! Luckily he was frozen and his back half was already missing... :) I took it back and exchanged it for a chocolate shake... :) Eating in a vehicle can be hazardous to your health... :) john - ------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Washington has laws prohibiting unsolicited commercial email, aka: SPAM. $500 per message. I report abuse. - -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:37:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: the root beer shake... John wrote: We ate fast food tonight... decided to have a shake for dessert... so I figured I'd try a 'root beer' milkshake... It just didn't taste right, but I was drinking it anyways when I felt something come up the straw, you know, like a chunk of strawberry or a cherry... but wait, I'm drinking a root beer shake... so I spit the "chunk" into a napkin and lo and behold, it's a bee! Luckily he was frozen and his back half was already missing... :) =A0 A: What!!! And waste all that protein??? Did you hear the guy that advocated bee sting therapy died the other day? Age 72! I took it back and exchanged it for a chocolate shake... :) Eating in a vehicle can be hazardous to your health... :) A: That's why I advocate NOT eating in fast food restaurants! At least with sub shops, you can watch them make it! - ------------------------ Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Stop the Chemtrails! My Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:06:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Looking for a Wagonner (who isn't?) On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Bass Phillips wrote: >-->John- >-->My wife and I live in Northern California and have become quite enamored >-->of all things Wagoneer. We want to trade in our '96 Subaru Outback and >-->start with a clean slate with a Big Ol' Jeep. However, they are tough to >-->find. We are looking for resources and would appreciate any help/leads >-->you may have come accross online. We are also willing to travel (Western >-->U.S.) to find a great deal.Thanks so much in advance for your >-->consideration. >-->-bass do you live near I-5? :) there is a bait shop off to the west of I-5 near Shasta that I saw years ago... like 83 - 84 time frame, that had this big lettering Basshole across the front of it... :) I used to live in Kfalls. I just sold my 77 wagoneer, actually traded it for an expensive mountain bike that i'm selling. There are lots of GW's up here. Are you sure you want to trade a nice newer car for a rig that is high maintenance, thirsty and hard to find parts for? :) If you can afford it, I'd recommend the WJ (grand cherokee) with the 4.0L and the Quaddrive. I've driven one off-road and found them similar in handling to the old SJs. The view from the saddle ain't the same. If you're not mechanically inclined, and fuel economy is a concern, I'd recommend the newer model jeep, or even an XJ cherokee. On the ohter hand. If you drive one of the big Wagoneers... you're hooked. :) I've had it with the tailgates on the wagoneers, so I'm looking for a J10. :) I love these old rigs. Just can't afford to drive 'em all the time. :) ttyl, john btw, here's how to get on the FSJ list: ====================================================================================== To subscribe to a list on digest.net, EMAIL majordomo-at-digest.net, no subject needed, in the body: subscribe [ fsj | xj | diesel-benz ] end (note: select only one of the options in the brackets) You will need to reply to an authentication message. Add a "-digest" to any of the lists to subscribe in the digest mode (messages are grouped, less traffic). Please do not send HTML, special characters, images, SPAM, attachments or stylized text to the lists. 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(spam is unsolicitied commercial email.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Looking for a Wagoneer (who isn't?) A: There is a Dark Green FSJ for sale on Ebay, that's in S Oregon. They even have pics of it posted. John- My wife and I live in Northern California and have become quite enamored of all things Wagoneer. We want to trade in our '96 Subaru Outback and start with a clean slate with a Big Ol' Jeep. However, they are tough to find. We are looking for resources and would appreciate any help/leads you may have come accross online. We are also willing to travel (Western U.S.) to find a great deal.Thanks so much in advance for your consideration. - -bass do you live near I-5? :) there is a bait shop off to the west of I-5 near Shasta that I saw years ago... like 83 - 84 time frame, that had this big lettering Basshole across the front of it... :) I used to live in Kfalls. I just sold my 77 wagoneer, actually traded it for an expensive mountain bike that i'm selling. There are lots of GW's up here. Are you sure you want to trade a nice newer car for a rig that is high maintenance, thirsty and hard to find parts for? :) If you can afford it, I'd recommend the WJ (grand cherokee) with the 4.0L and the Quaddrive. I've driven one off-road and found them similar in handling to the old SJs. The view from the saddle ain't the same. If you're not mechanically inclined, and fuel economy is a concern, I'd recommend the newer model jeep, or even an XJ cherokee. On the ohter hand. If you drive one of the big Wagoneers... you're hooked. :) I've had it with the tailgates on the wagoneers, so I'm looking for a J10. :) I love these old rigs. Just can't afford to drive 'em all the time. :) ttyl, john Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Stop the Chemtrails! My Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:15:54 -0700 From: Thunderbird Subject: fsj: Re: [TXTK] Something differant Thought some of ya'll might get a kick out of it. http://38.159.235.5/tx4x4/signs.htm Brian 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 97 ThunderbirdLX 4.6 V8/Sport Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1) Those who fear and distrust the people 2) Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe...depository of the public interest. - -- Thomas Jefferson ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: more on urban legends... I ran across this on cnn this morning... They didn't mention whether it covered the rocket car or not... :) http://cnn.com/books/beginnings/9909/urban.legends/index.html ===================================================================== john meister sr CAD sys admin, Intermec meister-at-intermec.com (425) 356.1663 http://www.intermec.com ( http://www.wagoneers.com/ john-at-wagoneers.com ) ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: FWD: My J truck still for sale.... go figure From: "-=3DMuddyJEEP=3D-" <97tj-at-muddyjeep.com> ok, I have dropped it to a low low price made to move it, I haven't advertised in any local paper yet, was hoping someone on the list would benefit from my job less condition :-) $1500 drive it home http://www.muddyjeep.com/J10.htm not to keep hitting the list with it, but I surely think this is a killer deal and would have been jumped all over on! =A0 so, don't fret, I wont toss it here anymo'...gonna have to do a paper sales ad on it after this.........going going gone? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Timothy Kyle aka MuddyJEEP Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Stop the Chemtrails! My Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 99 18:21 EDT From: dan-at-black.org Subject: [none] Somebody mentioned a Wag on eBay from Oregon... The URL is http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=167182385 There's also one in Des Moines at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=168078897 - -- since I'm in Ames, if anybody wants me to take a quick look at it and can arrange it (6 days left on the auction), I could go down and look it over for them this weekend (Friday evening through Sunday early afternoon). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:49:25 EDT From: OrigamiTB-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: fair trade??? On Sat, 18 Sep, john asked: > Am I nuts or am I making a good trade? I don't think so. Cambria Bicycle Outfitter has a Mrazek BOH-FX frameset for $499: http://www.cambriabike.com/boframe.htm and a guy in DC is selling the complete bike for $1100: http://www.mtbr.com/market/messages/116857.html ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ Waggoneering in Vegas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:01:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: fair trade??? so where were you before I did it?!?! :-) I checked with a local shop, with all the other stuff this thing has it's worth between $1,500 and $2,000 in the used market here in Seattle. The page you cite is only the frame itself, and it looks like a firesale at that, it was $799. :) On the complete bike it's a year old... The one I have has less than 50 miles on it and better components. He's asking $1,100... Make me an offer on mine... :) I'll go down to $1,200 for a friend. I'm asking $1,500 right now, will drop the price if it doesn't sell in a few weeks... or after I run an ad. :) I know I'll get at least $800 for it if I don't sell it within 2 months, the guy that bought the Jeep has already said he'll buy it back for that... I'm not worried, it's not the easiest thing to sell I've ever traded into, but I'm sure I'll get my money out of it. :) Thanx for the research. At least I know I'm not totally nuts. :) BTW, Wagoneering only has one "g". :) Maybe I should get the special shoes to ride this thing and get some exercise before I sell it. :) john On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 OrigamiTB-at-aol.com wrote: >-->On Sat, 18 Sep, john asked: >--> >-->> Am I nuts or am I making a good trade? >--> >-->I don't think so. >--> >-->Cambria Bicycle Outfitter has a Mrazek BOH-FX frameset for $499: >-->http://www.cambriabike.com/boframe.htm >--> >--> and a guy in DC is selling the complete bike for $1100: >-->http://www.mtbr.com/market/messages/116857.html >--> >-->++ Cornel Ormsby ++ >-->Waggoneering in Vegas >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA NOTE: Washington State has anti-spam laws: $500 per occurrence. (spam is unsolicitied commercial email.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Re: Ad 302430 Classified 302430 401 ENGINE AND 727 TRANS FOR SALE,NEEDS TO BE REBUILT; Ad By: GEORGE (ID 67780)Location: TOMS RIVER, New JerseyCategory: AMX 74' 401 AMC ENGINE AND 727 TRANS FOR SALE,COMPLETE ENGINE WITH GOOD HEADS AND STANDARD BLOCK.600.00 TAKES BOTH..WILL NOT SHIP... About GEORGE (ID 67780) I also spotted a '67 ?(I will look at notes tomorrow) J200 stepside with TSLs and a 6" at least lift, with Buick TH400 and Dana 20 for $2200 (needs work, mostly body and paint), and a '68 Wagoneer panel for $5,000! (Totally custom interior and modded exterior) with barn doors! I'll post particulars when I get up in AM. Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee 4 dr 4.2L six, 999 AT, Manual hubs Stop the Chemtrails! My Homepage: http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html FREE Online Photo Album: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #557 *************************