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fsj-digest          Sunday, February 13 2000          Volume 01 : Number 725



Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:

	Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...  Superdawg
	Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...
	fsj: alarm, door locks and remote... 
	Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...
	fsj: For Sale: '83 Wagoneer with Wide Track running gear.
	Re: fsj: '82 Cherokee Wide Track parts
	Re: fsj: Re: J-10, J4000 question
	Re: fsj: '82 Cherokee Wide Track parts
	Re: fsj: Jeep LIMO for sale!
	Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...  Superdawg
	Re: fsj: Jeep LIMO for sale!
	fsj: Michigan FSJ fo' sale... on ebay
	fsj: cherokee tail light lens on ebay
	Re: fsj: Another Wagoneer
	fsj: Question on MPI kit on ebay...
	fsj: Paul was right... :)
	fsj: '73"wagoneer"
	Re: fsj: '73"wagoneer"
	fsj: Engine PreLube technology
	fsj: Re: Engine PreLube technology
	Re: fsj: '73"wagoneer"
	RE: fsj: '73"wagoneer"
	fsj: Another Wagoneer

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:27:44 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...  Superdawg

At 11:53 AM 2/12/00 -0800, James Blair wrote:
>A: How about King? (seems obvious to me!)

"Superdawg" had an interesting reaction on my wife and the neighbor...  
passed muster either way...   So now the carport may also be
referred to as the Dawghaus... :)

john
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     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:58:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...

A: Alternatively, you could call it King Kong (something else that was 
big and brown and ha... well okay so it's not hairy. Did anyone evr
mention how a master and his pet start to look alike? <G>) 

I wrote:
How about King? (seems obvious to me!) 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr
http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Pics:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:35:41 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: alarm, door locks and remote... 

I think I'm gonna take "Superdawg" in to town so he can be
fitted with an alarm system, electric door locks, remote control
and some new speakers.  $280 or so and I don't have to wrestle with the
door panels... ;)  Don't worry about finding those 84 door locks Jim, mine
work ok...  and with the remote I won't need to worry about 'em any more...

I got the underhood insulation from JC Whitney to install.  
 Still trying to figure out which speakers to put behind the seats. 
 Just front speakers are kind of lame.  I've got a set of "patio" KLH 
speakers that might work, or a set of PC speakers that aren't too bad.  
Either way they have to be in enclosures since you really can't 
recess 'em into sheet metal... ;)

john
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:39:19 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...

At 11:58 AM 2/12/00 -0800, James Blair wrote:
>A: Alternatively, you could call it King Kong (something else that was 
>big and brown and ha... well okay so it's not hairy. Did anyone evr
>mention how a master and his pet start to look alike? <G>) 
>
>I wrote:
>How about King? (seems obvious to me!) 

It be "Superdawg".  :)

john

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:10:32 -0800
From: "Fitzgearld, Fredric" <fredric.fitzgearld-at-intel.com>
Subject: fsj: For Sale: '83 Wagoneer with Wide Track running gear.

All,

If any of you want this beast and spare parts, I'll take $1000 for the whole
deal.

Here's what I've got:

- - '83 Wagoneer, Limited.  White.  Front end body damage, minimal rust,
interior is rough but intact.  It came from southern New Mexico so there is
only a small amount of rust in the left rear section behind the rear tire
(that I know of).  Engine is strong, Edelbrock intake with Stock carb, but
has a lobe going flat on the cam (Edelbrock cam is in spare engine).  The
tranny (built for towing and offroad 3000 miles ago), t-case (with DNC
conversion rebuilt 4000 miles ago), axles w/3.50 gears (inspected
Professionally 4000 miles ago), and drive shafts (new u-joints), are from a
'78 wide track Cherokee.  Exhaust has 500 miles on it, headers, 2-1/4" pipe
to Flow Master "Y" to 3" cat and muffler ($600. in exhaust system alone).
B&M Z-gate floor shifter.  The front leafs are new, and there are 2" blocks
in the rear.  There is some vibration due to the pinion angle, but it can be
fixed easily because the vehicle is fitted with custom clamp on leaf pads.
There is a whining noise that I believe may be wheel bearings that will have
to be taken care of fairly soon.  Tow hitch is included.  Basically what I
have is an '83 Waggy with '78 WT Cherokee running gear.  The vehicle runs
strong but the engine makes some taping noise due to the cam. 

Does not include the '83 rear bumper.

'78 WT Cherokee parts included:
- -Front clip (hood, grill, radiator holder, wheel wells, fenders, everything
from the front doors forward)
- -AMC 360 WITH EDELBROCK CAM.  Includes AC pump, PS pump, fan, maybe even the
alternator.  Good start on rebuild.  
- -2 2bbl intake manifolds and 2 sets of stock exhaust manifolds
- -'78 Cherokee doors W/glass
- -'78 tailgate with glass
- -Rhino Chaser Grill.
- -NEW, still in the package, weather striping for tailgate.
- -Steering column from steering wheel to rag joint.
- -Brake MC with vacuum booster and brake pedal
- -PS box
- -Instrument cluster
- -I'll even throw in a Rochester Q-jet.
- -I'm sure I have more....

Take the whole deal now for $1000.

It has Oregon tags and passed DEQ testing with flying colors (on the dyno).


I'm west of Portland, in Aloha, OR

Fredric Fitzgearld
fredric.fitzgearld-at-intel.com  

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:29:32 -0800
From: Joe Schaefer <oldiron-at-waypt.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: '82 Cherokee Wide Track parts

At 11:12 2/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>The deal has gone through! I now have a D44 WT 3.31 front axle with new
>gears and new lockright? LSD plus a D44 WT rear with new gears AND new
>LSD (he thinks it's trac loc) for $500 each (Randy's Ring and Pinion did
>them). 360 motor parts: (redone heads with Crane roller rockers) $250
>the pair, 2 Edelbrock intakes $100 each, Edelbrock tubular headers
>(lightly used) $50, WT and NT brushguards $75 each, 2 rads $50 each and
>some other spare bits and pieces.
>


Jim, what's the D44 rear out of? An 82 Chero/Wag/J-10 will have an AMC20
rear axle from the factory.

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 14:56:21 -0800
From: Joe Schaefer <oldiron-at-waypt.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: J-10, J4000 question

At 12:18 2/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>At 02:32 PM 2/12/00 EST, SMTNR1-at-aol.com wrote:
>>My cousin needs to change the rear differential in a 1977 J-10 PU. How do
>you 
>>determine the gear ratio without disassembling the differential? Is there a 
>>manual or workbook available.
>
>the other trick is to rotate the wheel and count the driveshaft revolutions.
>
>>

If you do that you need to multiply the drive shaft revs by 2 unless you
have an LSD then read the drive shaft revs direct. If your shaft turns
about 1.75 times you prolly have a 3.54 ratio, turns almost twice prolly
3.73, a bit over twice = 4.09(if those were avail in 77 on a J-10?).

>>Also I have a 1970 J-4000 PU that we can't decide what the size is of the
PU 
>>suspension 1/2 ton-3/4ton or ton. 
>
>there will be a model number on the data plate.  the standard catalog of
>4x4's has a breakdown...
>


Look on the sill plate sticker in the drivers door, it'll say 4500, 4600,
4700, 4800 the second digit refers to GVWR. 7000 and up is 3/4 ton. The
rear axle will also tell you...if the axle hub sticks out beyond the
rim(obviously) it's a full floating axle ie 3/4 ton. All half ton
axles(semi-floaters) have flush with the rim hubs. Plus half tons have 5
hole rims and the 3/4's will have 6 or 8 in 1970.
The fifth digit of the VIN will also tell you;
W=5000 GVWR
X=6000 GVWR
and the 3/4 tons are:
y=7000
Z=8000


>>
>>
>>Thanks for any information,
>>>Dale Harris 

Regards,

joe schaefer, nordland wa, usa, oldiron-at-waypt.com
63 wag, 73 j-4000, 82 cj-8
"we doan need no steenkin power windows..."
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:45:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: '82 Cherokee Wide Track parts

A: I gather the original blew up (I haven't looked at the axle yet to be
sure, but he bought it built by Randy's Ring and Pinion, and that's what
they told him. 

Joe wrote:
Jim, what's the D44 rear out of? An 82 Chero/Wag/J-10 will have an AMC20
rear axle from the factory.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr
http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Pics:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false 
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:56:06 -0800
From: Clark Novak <steelydn-at-pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Jeep LIMO for sale!

Hey, great idea... I think I'll do that! Be awesome to have the owner in the
Brotherhood, eh?

Clark

- ----- Original Message -----
From: poolcues-at-bellsouth.net
To: Clark Novak
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: fsj: Jeep LIMO for sale!


Now That is really and truly a GRAND Wagoneer!!!
Man .. if I only had some money right now!!!!
Thanks!! hey , get some info on the owner , or even new owner , and invite
them to the list!!!
save that pic!
R.J.

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:53:45 -0500
From: "Ray Drouillard" <RayLists-at-quixnet.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re:  naming rigs...  Superdawg

> At 11:53 AM 2/12/00 -0800, James Blair wrote:
> >A: How about King? (seems obvious to me!)
>
> "Superdawg" had an interesting reaction on my wife and the neighbor...
> passed muster either way...   So now the carport may also be
> referred to as the Dawghaus... :)
>
> john


So... when your wife puts you in the dawghous, you won't be all that upset
anymore, eh?

Ray
(who will be in the dawghaus if too much time is spent on the internet)

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:02:27 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Jeep LIMO for sale!

At 03:59 PM 2/12/00 -0800, Clark Novak wrote:
>Well, John, you better act fast... the reserve's been met at $5,000!
>
>Clark
	
I don't know...  Not sure it would make the turn into my driveway without
taking out the rockery on one side and the picket fence on the other... 

Besides, what kind of mileage does this thing get?   about 4 mpg? ;)

I'll stick with Superdawg...  :)

john
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 http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Jx000s/marks-67-J3000/ (son's FSJ)
      http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html
      http://www.wagoneers.com/book-info.html
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:16:49 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Michigan FSJ fo' sale... on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=255587524
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     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:19:36 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: cherokee tail light lens on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=253666042
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     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:19:54 -0500
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Another Wagoneer

Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) writes:

>>  D30? I thought they were still D27? I know CJ and IH Scouts
had interchangeable stuff then, and the XJs run D30 as well. (solid axle =
in
newer ones)
<<

ONly used 1 year James. In 1973. Dana 27 up until '73 and then the
open knuckle Dana 44 in '74, of course. The thick tube D-44 housings
showed-up in Wag's and NT Chero's in mid-'76. All WTs and J-Trucks had th=
e
thick tube front-end. =


Anyone ever notice how thick the front thick tube housings are? 1/2" wall=

if I'm not mistaken. They look beefy enough to support a Sherman Tank.

>> A: I agree. The VC is nice and all, but my NP208 out pulled a FSJ with=

401 and QT in Edrive last summer on dry pavement (he didn't have low rang=
e,
and I have 3:1)
<<

AMC couldn't have possibly put a worse camshaft in the 401 if they tried.=

I'm sure that's a factor as well. The Six has wonderful low-end grunt. I'=
m
not sure what the AMC engineers were thinking they were accomplishing wit=
h
the 401 cam, but low-end grunt was not part of the equation. The seat to
seat timing on the 401's dual pattern cam is right around 300 degrees. Ev=
en
with the slowest ramps on the planet, a 300 degree cam with 60 plus degre=
es
of overlap does not belong in the engine of a 4,500 lb. plus vehicle.

>> A: Unless you count Elmo's 20 mpg with a BBD carb and no emission junk=
!
I'd put a built 999 lockup behind a stock 360 anyday!
<<

I should have qualified that statement with "V-8." I should have known
someone would toss a Six cylinder ringer in. :-)

>> A: If I decide to get one of those W/O '76 Chero bodies to put on my
'84 frame, will I have mounting trouble?
<<

I'm 6 ft. and I've been in a lot of pre-3" extra leg-room FSJs. I've yet
to notice the difference anywhere except in print. If your taller than me=
,
then you might notice.


 Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com-OR-N7OVD-at-arrl.net
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 11-Feb-2000

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:28:36 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Question on MPI kit on ebay...

It this a worth while kit?  It's a 4.2L factory MPI kit...  it's currently
bidding way out of my price range....  Is this what Tom used on his 82 Chero?

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=256273173
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     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:26:23 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Paul was right... :)

Paul was right.  The "sport" on the side of my J10 was decals...
  What puzzles me is, WHY?   Why would someone spend good money
to put something like that on the side of their rig... unless it
was a "sport" from the factory????

What is more puzzling is why I didn't spot it.  :)   I only spent
about $48 in 1983 brochures and literature trying to find that "option"...
sheesh...   ;)

john
(who is heading out to the dawghaus to do some more work on Superdawg... :)

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 john-at-wagoneers.com      http://www.wagoneers.com
     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:23:45 -0700
From: Timothy Fisher <timm.fisher-at-worldnet.att.net>
Subject: fsj: '73"wagoneer"

To all of you mainaics trying to keep you'r 4x4dinosaurs(4x4osaurus)on
the road,congratulations!!!I try to keep mine in the workshop! since I
bought this thing I've done nothing but workon it!!!Amungst other things
I've put a 500 cid cadillac engine in it. after I strech the
body(puting2door cherokee quarter panels behind the rear doorsof my
4door wagoneer) I'm gonna make it 4wheel drive again. Does anyone
outthere know what I will need to put a swapmeet NP203 behind this cad
TH400??

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:38:39 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: '73"wagoneer"

At 09:23 PM 2/12/00 -0700, Timothy Fisher wrote:
>To all of you mainaics trying to keep you'r 4x4dinosaurs(4x4osaurus)on
>the road,congratulations!!!I try to keep mine in the workshop! since I
>bought this thing I've done nothing but workon it!!!Amungst other things
>I've put a 500 cid cadillac engine in it. after I strech the
>body(puting2door cherokee quarter panels behind the rear doorsof my
>4door wagoneer) I'm gonna make it 4wheel drive again. Does anyone
>outthere know what I will need to put a swapmeet NP203 behind this cad
>TH400??

Isn't an NP203 a Chevy xfr case?  Won't that connect to the TH400?  Or
is the NP203 one of those divorced units?   It's not a standard Jeep
xfr case to my knowledge...  but then I only play with XJ and SJ type jeeps...

Advance Adapters will give you some ideas, and take lots of your money if
needed.  :)

For Superdawg I'm gonna be trying to figure out how to mate an SJ NP219
to my XJ Aisin Warner 30-40LE.  :)   Or, maybe I'll need to figure out
how to mate the J10 driveshafts currently maintaining company with my
NP208 to an NP242...  my preference actually... That way I'll have part
time, full time and 2wd!  and will be able to use my hubs when I want to. :)

I taught Superdawg how to bark today... ;)   Put one of those alarm systems
with remote control door locks in.  It was easier, and only slightly more
expensive, than fixing the door locks...  And I had the guys at the alarm
shop install my speakers at the same time.  :)

john

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 john-at-wagoneers.com      http://www.wagoneers.com
     ...don't leave life without Jesus, please!
 Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 01:07:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Ned Williams <ned-at-dahood.net>
Subject: fsj: Engine PreLube technology

Hey gang, got a question:

Has anyone thought about what it would take to fabricate a engine prelube
system? I looked at the component list for the stuff used in the actual
Preluber product and was astounded! 300 bucks for a pump? the smae pump
the EXACT pump is 98 bucks at Northern Hydrualics. To me I see the kit as
three seperate component groups.

1- the pump

2- the electronic control module/sensor+pump-power relay.

3- the hose fittings,hoses

the only thing I think would take any more than a few seconds of though is
the ECM stuff. Another Thing I dont like about the Prluber product is that
the oil is picked up via the drain plug. To me this seems great for street
application but off road, especiall down in the terrain we see in georgia
I would not any to have some brass fitting extending off my oil pan just
waiting to snag something and break off If anything I would pick it up at
the oil filter,perhaps even employ a oil filter relocation kit to protect
further and put the pump,the filter and evertyhing in question up out of
harms way. Another idea I have been kicking around is the use of hard
conduit in a sem-floating configuring to protec wire of oil/fuel lines etc
that go to the engine. In short a pipe that fits into a smaller pipe, the
Larger pipe fitted via hing mount to the frame of wheel well extending to
a around a smaller pipe mounted atop the engine or amoung the accesory
brackets. As I see it this allow for side to side movement as well as
pitch angle changed in the engine, with slight hinge improvment perhaps
forward/reverse motion can be taken into account however I could not think
of any SAFE or GOOD reason you would want your engine/trans moving
forwards or backards on its mounts.

Anyways what do yall think?

Ned
83 J 10

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:15:40 -0700
From: "Tacoma White" <tacoma-at-utah-inter.net>
Subject: fsj: Re: Engine PreLube technology

I think you are on to something. If you figure this out, I'll buy a copy of
what you did. I want a preluber but I'm too lazy/technically challenged to
actually do it. 
 One thing I was thinking of is putting an outlet on the SIDE of the pan,
maybe with some kind of filtered hard line inside the pan or something,
maybe that's too much, but you get the idea. That way it would be out of
the way, and cheap to do-- can't cost much at the local welder. Also, it
would be nice w/my cool dual filter setup (thanks John... it's going on the
ambulance... diesel or not). 
     

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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:19:05 -0700
From: "Tacoma White" <tacoma-at-utah-inter.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: '73"wagoneer"

 yes, it's a fulltime available on several bazillion 70's trucks.
Apparently only really useful for use w/a 205 as a doubler. I don't know if
the output shaft on the JeepTH400 is compatible-- if it IS, then I will
save myself a ton of cash and get a 203, they're like, free here. Qtracs
are NOT free. Or even close.

in UT
Tacoma
67 Kaiser M725
"Gigantor the Heep"
icq 5058954
> 
> Isn't an NP203 a Chevy xfr case?  Won't that connect to the TH400?  Or
> is the NP203 one of those divorced units?   It's not a standard Jeep
> xfr case to my knowledge...  but then I only play with XJ and SJ type
jeeps...
> 

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 00:07:33 -0700
From: "JC Jones" <jcjones-at-goldencomputerservice.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: '73"wagoneer"

If you have the Cadillac TH400 then you will need to change the output shaft
as well as the tail housing to connect to an NP203 transfer case.  The
Cadillac TH400 (being a two wheel drive) has a driveshaft that 'slips' into
the back of the transmission, and you will need to be able to bolt the TC to
the transmission unless you want to make a custom TC yoke and very short
driveshaft and mount the TC as a divorced unit (I did this once on a 77
Trans AM).  If you decide to go that route, I have a very good Driveshaft
guy out here in Colorado.

JC Jones  :)

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of
Tacoma White
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 11:19 PM
To: john
Cc: fsj-digest
Subject: Re: fsj: '73"wagoneer"


 yes, it's a fulltime available on several bazillion 70's trucks.
Apparently only really useful for use w/a 205 as a doubler. I don't know if
the output shaft on the JeepTH400 is compatible-- if it IS, then I will
save myself a ton of cash and get a 203, they're like, free here. Qtracs
are NOT free. Or even close.

in UT
Tacoma
67 Kaiser M725
"Gigantor the Heep"
icq 5058954
>
> Isn't an NP203 a Chevy xfr case?  Won't that connect to the TH400?  Or
> is the NP203 one of those divorced units?   It's not a standard Jeep
> xfr case to my knowledge...  but then I only play with XJ and SJ type
jeeps...
>

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 02:15:29 -0500
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: Another Wagoneer

"michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com> writes:

>> To add to the heater probs, for some reason it can cake / plug pretty
well. After it started to leak, i replaced it with a new one... i was
amazed at how hot it could be, you can fry your foot!
<<

I thought mine in the Chero. had sprung a leak once...in fact, John M.
was here. We were both smelling anti-freeze. The thing that didn't jive w=
as
I was not getting the requisite fogging of the window.

I found a hidden slit in the upper radiator hose but, that didn't solve
the problem. I finally tracked it down to the certifiable nut running the=

nut driver which tightened the heater hose clamp. One of my AMC V-8
resolutions is every time I get anywhere close to the front, fat, heater
hose connection on the water pump; I change the hose. It's a pain to acce=
ss
when equip'd with A/C.

I've always been reluctant to tighten the snot out of hose clamps
because they'll cut into the hose but, it seems I take it a little too
close to the other extreme sometimes. The fat heater hose was soaking the=

seal which was then dribbling coolant into the heater box. I changed the
hose when I replaced the A/C compressor summer before last.

So I tightened the snot out of the heater hose :-). The closest I've come=

to having to replace a FSJ heater core.

One thing I forgot. Starters. Late '70s and even '70s FSJs in general
don't require a membership in the lifetime guaranteed starter of the mont=
h
club at your local auto parts store. Both of mine are original and I ofte=
n
find AMC stickered starters on '70s FSJ at the junk yard.


 Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com-OR-N7OVD-at-arrl.net
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 12-Feb-2000

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