From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Mar 18 10:24:16 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, March 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 780 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Carnuk...360 heads still available? fsj: Re: big, ugly and american Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american fsj: Re: big, ugly and american Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american fsj: It's still For Sale: '83 waggy with '79 WT running gear. Re: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] RE: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] Re: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american RE: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american Re: fsj: FWD: Questions for the lists fsj: 85 Exhaust manifolds needed fsj: RE: Exhaust manifolds wanted Re: fsj: RE: Exhaust manifolds wanted fsj: i need some help with my jeep BADLY!!! fsj: Re: exhaust noise Re: fsj: '77 J10 Re: fsj: Re: Fun with Rez Re: fsj: i need some help with my jeep BADLY!!! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Carnuk...360 heads still available? A: I'm not sure what's up with the guy, and I've been too busy messing with the 2 Ramblers and my Dodge van to dig into it. AFAIK, it's all still sitting in the semi trailer in front of his house. No-one has ben home when I stopped by, cash in hand to pick it all up. Now I have to get rid of 2 Dodge vans, a Chev 1 ton flatbed and at least 1 Rambler before I can bring anything home now, according to my wife. (who will become my ex-wife if I bring home anymore vehicles) John=A0Bushnell wrote: James, A couple of months ago you were talking about having some access to 360 heads with roller rockers... can't remember anything more that that. I was wondering if they were still available? Thanks, John Bushnell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:50:50 EST From: OrigamiTB-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american In a message dated 3/17/00 10:25:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, john wrote: > I'm not really that much overweight... I'm just a little undertall... > What would my perfect height be for 175 lbs? If your browser is Javascript-enabled, you can find out at: http://www.metlife.com/Lifeadvice/Tools/Heightnweight/ Otherwise, check out: http://www.metlife.com/Lifeadvice/Tools/Heightnweight/Docs/men.html They also have a way of determining your "frame size": you measure the breadth of your elbow across the bones with a caliper, when your arm is bent at a 90-degree angle, held up with the palm facing you. My own weight of 230 lbs and elbow-breadth of 3-1/4 inch are perfectly normal for a six-foot-tall male Neanderthal... ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ not leaving Las Vegas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:01:36 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american At 01:50 PM 3/17/00 EST, OrigamiTB-at-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/17/00 10:25:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, john > wrote: > >> I'm not really that much overweight... I'm just a little undertall... >> What would my perfect height be for 175 lbs? > >If your browser is Javascript-enabled, you can find out at: >http://www.metlife.com/Lifeadvice/Tools/Heightnweight/ assuming medium frame for 5'7": Your Weight Range is: 142-154 lbs assuming large frame for 5'7": Your Weight Range is: 149-168 lbs Either way, I'm either 20 or 10lbs overweight... which is about what I figured... ;) john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:11:23 EST From: OrigamiTB-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american In a message dated 3/17/00 11:00:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, john=20 wrote: > assuming medium frame for 5'7": > Your Weight Range is: 142-154 lbs > assuming large frame for 5'7": > Your Weight Range is: 149-168 lbs Why are you assuming?! (you know what that does to "u" and "me"!) Get out a caliper and measure that elbow! http://www.metlife.com/Lifeadvice/Tools/Heightnweight/Docs/frametable.html ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ pi=F9 largamente =E8 migliore ("wider is better") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:21:57 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american when I get some time... ;) john At 02:11 PM 3/17/00 EST, OrigamiTB-at-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/17/00 11:00:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, john=20 > wrote: > >> assuming medium frame for 5'7": >> Your Weight Range is: 142-154 lbs >> assuming large frame for 5'7": >> Your Weight Range is: 149-168 lbs > >Why are you assuming?! (you know what that does to "u" and "me"!) >Get out a caliper and measure that elbow! > >http://www.metlife.com/Lifeadvice/Tools/Heightnweight/Docs/frametable.html > >++ Cornel Ormsby ++ >pi=F9 largamente =E8 migliore > ("wider is better") > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:31:53 -0800 From: "Fitzgearld, Fredric" Subject: fsj: It's still For Sale: '83 waggy with '79 WT running gear. All, I know, I know... Why not just keep it... I'm sure not trying real hard to sell it.. I have not touched it in months. Here's what I've got: - - '83 Wagoneer, Limited. White. Front end body damage, minimal rust, interior is a little rough but intact. It came from southern New Mexico so there is only a small amount of rust in the left rear section behind the rear tire (that I know of). Engine is strong, Edelbrock intake with Stock carb, but has a lobe going flat on the cam so it ticks some... The tranny (built for towing and offroad 3000 miles ago), t-case (with DNC conversion rebuilt 4000 miles ago), axles w/3.50 gears (inspected Professionally 4000 miles ago), and drive shafts (new u-joints), are from a '78 wide track Cherokee. Exhaust has 500 miles on it, headers, 2-1/4" pipe to Flow Master "Y" to 3" cat and muffler ($600. in exhaust system alone). B&M Z-gate floor shifter. The front leafs are new, and there are 2" blocks in the rear. There is some vibration due to the pinion angle, but it can be fixed easily because the vehicle is fitted with custom clamp on leaf pads. There is a whining noise that I believe may be wheel bearings that will have to be taken care of fairly soon. Tow hitch is included. In short, I have an '83 Waggy with '78 WT Cherokee running gear. The vehicle runs strong but the engine makes some taping noise due to the cam. Does not include the '83 rear bumper. '78 WT Cherokee parts included in the deal: - -Front clip (hood, grill, radiator holder, wheel wells, fenders, everything from the front doors forward) - -AMC 360 WITH EDELBROCK CAM. Includes AC pump, PS pump, fan, maybe even the alternator. Good start on rebuild. - -2 2bbl intake manifolds and 2 sets of stock exhaust manifolds - -'78 Cherokee doors W/glass - -'78 tailgate with glass - -Rhino Chaser Grill. - -NEW, still in the package, weather striping for tailgate. - -Steering column from steering wheel to rag joint. - -Brake MC with vacuum booster and brake pedal - -PS box - -Instrument cluster - -I'll even throw in a Rochester Q-jet. - -I'm sure I have more.... Take the whole deal now for $1000. It has Oregon tags and passed DEQ testing with flying colors (on the dyno). I'm west of Portland, in Aloha, OR Fredric Fitzgearld fredric.fitzgearld-at-intel.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Mar 00 13:48:25 MST From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] At 04:10 PM 3/16/00 -0600, Bob Bradfield wrote: > Ok, I've replaced both PS hoses and the thing continues to leak. = > After a through cleaning and reinspection, it appears to be leaking > from the very front of the steering gear, where the knuckle comes out Someone probably already mentioned that NAPA sells a rebuild kit for thes= e things. I happen to have one laying around. If you want it I can go see= if I can't dig it up and sell it to you for what I paid + S&H. I'd say maybe it's time for one of those fancy AGR boxes but dang those t= hings are spendy... probably not lots more than a brand new box from the dealer= though. Maybe time to run down to a junkyard and snag a box that doesn't= appear to be leaking (heh, good luck). I pulled my new box off an immacu= late but wrecked 86 owned by a fellow CFSJA member... one leak down, 5 to go..= =2E :) Michael - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:45:53 -0600 From: "Bob Bradfield" Subject: RE: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] Tell me the cost, I'll do it. Replaced boxes w/junkyard parts afore - not much luck. Thanks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > Michael Shimniok > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 2:48 PM > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] > > > At 04:10 PM 3/16/00 -0600, Bob Bradfield wrote: > > Ok, I've replaced both PS hoses and the thing continues to leak. > > After a through cleaning and reinspection, it appears to be leaking > > from the very front of the steering gear, where the knuckle comes out > > Someone probably already mentioned that NAPA sells a rebuild kit for these > things. I happen to have one laying around. If you want it I > can go see if I > can't dig it up and sell it to you for what I paid + S&H. > > I'd say maybe it's time for one of those fancy AGR boxes but dang > those things > are spendy... probably not lots more than a brand new box from the dealer > though. Maybe time to run down to a junkyard and snag a box that doesn't > appear to be leaking (heh, good luck). I pulled my new box off > an immaculate > but wrecked 86 owned by a fellow CFSJA member... one leak down, 5 > to go... :) > > Michael > > --- > Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that > is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:16:28 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: [fsj: RE: superdawg gets 14 mpg] > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that > is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken so true... ;) john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:21:57 -0800 From: Thunderbird Subject: Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american OrigamiTB-at-aol.com wrote: > My own weight of 230 lbs and elbow-breadth of 3-1/4 inch are perfectly normal > for a six-foot-tall male Neanderthal... That makes me feel better about carrying around just under 300# on my 6'8" frame!!! Brian 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport "Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in that order." - --Ed Howdershelt ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:26:02 -0600 From: "Bob Bradfield" Subject: RE: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american Are we gonna have to put this at the bottom of all letters from now on? :-) _________________________________________ Bob B. 6' 190lbs 3 1/2" EB (Elbow Breadth) 83 Wag 360 Used Electrical&Duct tape for sale, by the yard, cheap. _________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > Thunderbird > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 6:22 PM > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: big, ugly and american > > > OrigamiTB-at-aol.com wrote: > > My own weight of 230 lbs and elbow-breadth of 3-1/4 inch are perfectly > normal > > for a six-foot-tall male Neanderthal... > > That makes me feel better about carrying around just under 300# > on my 6'8" > frame!!! > > Brian > 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 > 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport > > "Four boxes to be used in defense of > liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in > that order." > --Ed Howdershelt > > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com > Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:57:19 EST From: RKH911-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: FWD: Questions for the lists Hi Guys and Gals: It seems that when I blew my head gasket a while back (and overheated severely several times), I have warped my exhaust manifolds to the point they can seat properly, according to the guy who helps me with the Waggy. Bout a year or so ago I had had them shaved and reinstalled (Worked awesome BTW) so I kinda believe this guy.... So I'm curious if anyone has a set of exh. manifolds laying around that I can purchase OR because of the weight, would it be cheaper to getem from the yard? I plan on having em "blasted", painted and shaved for installation. Lemme know what ya think. Rob Harrison 85 Grand Wagoneer (With a WHOLE new set of U joints on the wag now) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:58:07 EST From: RKH911-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: 85 Exhaust manifolds needed That last post of mine shoulda had this subject line...LOL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:37:26 -0800 (PST) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: RE: Exhaust manifolds wanted A: Did you try header gaskets with firegum? That's what I use usually. Rob wrote: Hi Guys and Gals: It seems that when I blew my head gasket a while back (and overheated severely several times), I have warped my exhaust manifolds to the point they can seat properly, according to the guy who helps me with the Waggy. Bout a year or so ago I had had them shaved and reinstalled (Worked awesome BTW) so I kinda believe this guy.... So I'm curious if anyone has a set of exh. manifolds laying around that I can purchase OR because of the weight, would it be cheaper to getem from the yard? I plan on having em "blasted", painted and shaved for installation. Lemme know what ya think. Rob Harrison 85 Grand Wagoneer (With a WHOLE new set of U joints on the wag now) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:59:34 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: Exhaust manifolds wanted firegum? do explain... this sounds good. :) john At 06:37 PM 3/17/00 -0800, James Blair wrote: >A: Did you try header gaskets with firegum? That's what I use usually. > >Rob wrote: >Hi Guys and Gals: >It seems that when I blew my head gasket a while back (and overheated >severely several times), I have warped my exhaust manifolds to the point >they can seat properly, according to the guy who helps me with the >Waggy. Bout a year or so ago I had had them shaved and reinstalled >(Worked awesome BTW) so I kinda believe this guy.... >So I'm curious if anyone has a set of exh. manifolds laying around that >I can purchase OR because of the weight, would it be cheaper to getem >from the yard? I plan on having em "blasted", painted and shaved for >installation. Lemme know what ya think. >Rob Harrison >85 Grand Wagoneer (With a WHOLE new set of U joints on the wag now) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr >http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on >allexperts.com Pics: >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:27:16 EST From: REBluvzCLM-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: i need some help with my jeep BADLY!!! hi i bought an '87 Comanche and it was like $600 b/c it had a supposed cracked block so i got another engine for it and my mechanic put it in and he has had it since before thanksgiving this past one and anyhow we almost have it finished it and about a weekend or 2 ago it cranked for a total of 1 minute or so...it had some rank old gas in it (been sitting since 1995...i wonder why) and so i dropped the gas tank and drained it and yesterday i put it back in the truck, along with a new fuel filter and a new battery and everything else just about, and i was wondering if ya'll might know if that is all that i need to do to it because i absolutely NEED this truck running ASAP since gas prices continue to go up and up and my paycheck stays about the same!!! anyhow i am gonna buy some gas for it tomarrow and put it in there along with like a fuel system cleaner or something like that so that it will hopefully (i have been hoping for it to work right for months and months now) it will crank and stay running! anything else that anyone on the list can think of will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robbie AKA. Shadow, Tankdriver 1979 Cherokee Chief, 360 cid v8, automatic, and a bunch of add-ons and other factory equipment as well 1987 Comanche, 150 cid 2.5 4cyl, 4-speed manual, and other stuff that I have no clue about b/c I have yet to have driven the damn thing!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:49:37 -0800 From: Clark Novak Subject: fsj: Re: exhaust noise Mine's a little different, then... I have a ticking that occurs at startup, unevenly at first, but then with every exhaust stroke. It's pronounced when cold, quiets down when warmer, is most audible when on the throttle and disappears altogether when cruising or coasting. If it was a valve or lifter, it'd be happening all the time, not just under throttle. So I have to believe it's an exhaust leak. Clark Novak 87 GW - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Landon Tesar" Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 7:21 AM Subject: Re: fsj-digest V1 #778 > The symptom I'm having that I would much rather attribute to an exhaust > leak than valve clearance is a high frequency ringing that starts at > about 50 mph - 2000 rpm? and continues to increase in frequency until it > becomes a mush at about 70 mph. It is more pronounced on the throttle > than off. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:25:51 EST From: UrbFarmer-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: '77 J10 I'm a little excited, it does have auto trans. So that would be a=20 quadratrac? What transfer case did they come with? - --Vince In a message dated 3/12/00 3:27:45 PM Central Standard Time,=20 Carnuck-at-webtv.net writes: > A: It could be a 401 or 360 and if it's auto, it's TH400 QT, or a 4speed > whatever xfer (D20?). > =20 > Vince wrote: > I've got a line on a truck back home in Iowa. =A0 A slightly cancerous > box but good looking cab '77 J-10. Not sure what the drivetrain is. It > has a V-8 that looks like the 360 in my wagoneer. Owner says it has a 4 > barrel carb and manifold. I want it real bad.=20 > Can anyone tell me what the tranny and transfer case options were in > this vehicle?=20 > This would be my 2nd FSJ if the deal goes through..... --Vince=20 > '81 Wag > '77 J-10 I hope=20 > =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:15:12 EST From: UrbFarmer-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Fun with Rez Hey Ben: Is the 360 considered a small block or a big block motor? Seems smaller and seems to rev pretty high without problems. - --Vince '81 Wag In a message dated 3/13/00 11:25:20 AM Central Standard Time, Brazzadog-at-aol.com writes: > In a message dated 3/12/2000 8:48:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, > owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net writes: > > > Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:55:35 EST > > From: UrbFarmer-at-aol.co > > > > Well, I took the Rez to Iowa to do a little coyote hunting last week. > Put > > over 800 miles on the Wag before heading home (another 500 miles). Ran > at > > 75 mph (about 3100 on the tach) when on interstate highway, is that > typical?. > > That's about what mine does with 3.31's and 28" tires. I try not to rev my > engine that high though. I don't know what a basically stock 360 can > sustain > without damage. > > > Sorry for the long message but coming home, I was passing some trucks and > > > the Rez died as if she couldn't get any fuel. I took a look and it would > idle > > fine, rev fine, just couldn't maintain more than 40 mph on highway. > > Sounds like problems I had once. Never did find the problem for sure, but I > > think the fuel sock was disintegrating and plugging the fuel filter. I went > > so far as to cut a filter open once but never did find anything. After > about > 6 months and 6 fuel filter changes, the problem disappeared. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer > '78 F-250 4x4 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: i need some help with my jeep BADLY!!! sounds like you're on the right track. If it's been sitting that long I'd recommend changing all the fluids, lubing it and tighenting everytghing up... check all the rubber and plastic, especially the vacuum stuff... should work great. THis is the TBI version of the 2.5L and you should get awesome ecomomy and reasonable peformace from it! john On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 REBluvzCLM-at-aol.com wrote: >-->hi i bought an '87 Comanche and it was like $600 b/c it had a supposed >-->cracked block so i got another engine for it and my mechanic put it in and he >-->has had it since before thanksgiving this past one and anyhow we almost have >-->it finished it and about a weekend or 2 ago it cranked for a total of 1 >-->minute or so...it had some rank old gas in it (been sitting since 1995...i >-->wonder why) and so i dropped the gas tank and drained it and yesterday i put >-->it back in the truck, along with a new fuel filter and a new battery and >-->everything else just about, and i was wondering if ya'll might know if that >-->is all that i need to do to it because i absolutely NEED this truck running >-->ASAP since gas prices continue to go up and up and my paycheck stays about >-->the same!!! anyhow i am gonna buy some gas for it tomarrow and put it in >-->there along with like a fuel system cleaner or something like that so that it >-->will hopefully (i have been hoping for it to work right for months and months >-->now) it will crank and stay running! anything else that anyone on the list >-->can think of will be greatly appreciated. >--> >-->Thanks, >-->Robbie AKA. Shadow, Tankdriver >--> >-->1979 Cherokee Chief, 360 cid v8, automatic, and a bunch of add-ons and other >-->factory equipment as well >-->1987 Comanche, 150 cid 2.5 4cyl, 4-speed manual, and other stuff that I have >-->no clue about b/c I have yet to have driven the damn thing!!! >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #780 *************************