From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Apr 11 16:37:31 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, April 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 813 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... fsj: AMX fsj: Chewed spark plugs.. fsj: forgot to include the URL... Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... Re: fsj: Chewed spark plugs.. fsj: standing rule... fsj: CARSTIANITY Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... fsj: Re: The Jerrari Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:21:25 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... he bowed out months ago... I think he's still somewhat involved, but barely... Actually May 10th last year is when I got the note... I know it takes days for him to return a message... He's commuting three hours a day right now! john At 08:56 AM 4/11/00 -0700, James Blair wrote: >A: Did I read that right? Doc quit ORC? Good for him! Did he have any 4 >letter words in his resignation? (I know I would if I didn't need them >for a reference!) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr >http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on >allexperts.com Pics: >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:38:15 -0700 From: Thunderbird Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... carnuck-at-webtv.net wrote: > A: Did I read that right? Doc quit ORC? Good for him! Did he have any 4 When did this happen? I just got a "shame on you" message from him last week, for posting a land use message. Brian 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport "Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in that order." - --Ed Howdershelt ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:56:31 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: fsj: AMX My next door neighbor has a 1974 AMX for sale. Fresh root beer brown metallic paint, CenterLine wheels, new 360, factory 4 speed, power track rear diff. Interior is worn. He wants $3200. Let me know if you're interested, and I will send his name, address, and phone. kim NW Montana '80 Wagoneer "J0E", 360 v2,T-727,NP219 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:58:46 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: Chewed spark plugs.. Okay remember the plugs I mentioned? Well that still is not fixed also the choke won't work now, so I have to use a squirt of Quick start in the morning to get it started, , the rest of the day it's fine... anyway. what would bend the electrodes on only with a little chewing, bending them so it gets no spark? Mind you this is only on two separate spark plugs , one on each side of the engine.. so now, I guess I run a good 6 cyl.. any ideas would cause this to happen? R.J. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:35:39 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: forgot to include the URL... >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:23:37 PDT >From: "Phil Marek" >Subject: Re: xj: 200,000 miles!!! >>What??? No pics of it from the webcam? :o) I'm disappointed in you!! >>LOL Congrats John. >>Phil http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/littlewagoneer/199999.9.jpg (I had to slow down for the camera to finish saving... ;) http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/littlewagoneer/200000.0.jpg john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:51:47 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... well... I was just going by what I read... ;) does he let you post URL's to pages about Land Use like I do? ;) Don't even expect me to negotiate anything with him. I'm gonna take some pictures of timex, help him with his tranny, eat some pizza with him and avoid ANY controversial subjects. :) john At 09:38 AM 4/11/00 -0700, Thunderbird wrote: >carnuck-at-webtv.net wrote: > > A: Did I read that right? Doc quit ORC? Good for him! Did he have any 4 > >When did this happen? I just got a "shame on you" message from him last week, >for posting a land use message. > >Brian >78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 >97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport > >"Four boxes to be used in defense of >liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in >that order." >--Ed Howdershelt > >______________________________________________________ >Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com >Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting >cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:59:46 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Chewed spark plugs.. when you put the plugs in did you include the little compression washer thing? I don't understand why you're having troubles... but this might be a good time to do the spark plug indexing thing. It'll bring the plugs out just a bit, might even help your economy. Contact Jacobs Electronics for info and the kit, or any good speed shop... if they have them down there... ;) john At 12:58 PM 4/11/00 -0500, R.J. Baynum wrote: >Okay remember the plugs I mentioned? Well that still is not fixed also the choke >won't work now, so I have to use a squirt of Quick start in the morning to get it >started, , the rest of the day it's fine... >anyway. >what would bend the electrodes on only with a little chewing, bending them so it gets >no spark? >Mind you this is only on two separate spark plugs , one on each side of the engine.. >so now, I guess I run a good 6 cyl.. >any ideas would cause this to happen? > >R.J. > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:08:57 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: standing rule... >rolled her pristine 86 xj and we ended up signing it over to the wrecker >company to pay off the tow and storage fees while we were waiting on the >title to arrive in the mail. One of my standing rules is that if any of my vehicles are in an accident or need to be towed, they're towed HOME. Another friend lost out on his 4.3L driveline the same way. The storage fees and costs aren't worth it. Even if you let them total it and don't buy it back, why not have the thing at your house so you can remove your personal effects without being rushed. I've had another friend find missing parts from his "impounded" vehicle... I don't trust the storage lots, not only do things turn up missing, but additional damage is likely too. Remember, tow it home and then sort things out with the insurance company and mechanics... it's cheaper to tow it again than to pay storage fees. Sorry to hear about the accidents... john - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX ============================================================================== Microsoft Certified Professionals are to the computing industry what McDonald Certified Food Specialists are to gourmet restaurants. Michael Bacarella 3/15/2000 (as seen on http://www.slashdot.com ) ============================================================================ == ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:43:09 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: fsj: CARSTIANITY > Carstianity > > "Haul a Yugo. Haul a Yugo." > > Gearly beloved, we are Blazered here in the name of our Four-door, who > art in Half-ton. > > I'm speaking of our lord and Mazda, Jeep-sus Chrysler. > > He is the Alfa and the Romeo. > > He was born in a Ranger, he was Tempo'd by the DeVille, and he > Daihatsu'd for your Sentras. > > He said, "Dodge not, that ye not be Dodged. > > Thou shalt not Corvette thy neighbor's Whitewall, but turn the > other Cherokee. > > If ye have Fiat, ye can move Montecarlos. > > He ain't Chevy, he's my Beretta." > > He ate the Last Supra, and he climbed the mount of Cavalier, where > they cruise-controlled him on the Motocross. > > But God, in his Infiniti Mercedes, did Rolls away the Stanza. > > Let us Prelude: Sayeth the prophet Isuzu, in the Dusenburg Bible, In > the 23rd Saab, > "The Ford is my Chauffeur. > I shall not Walk. He Lexus me in the paths of Right-turn-signals. > Yea, though I walk through the Valet of the Shadow of Dart, I shall > Fiero no Eagle. > Subaru Goo dwrench and Mercury shall Volvo me Audi Daytonas of my > life, > and I shall Dwellmeter house of Delorean, Four-cylinder." > > Gloria, In Ex-Celica Geo! > > (By Steve Brooks, Winning entry in the O Henry Pun-Offs) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:09:07 -0700 From: Thunderbird Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: fsj: john and doc reunion this weekend... john wrote: > does he let you post URL's to pages about Land Use like > I do? ;) Evidently, not anymore. > Don't even expect me to negotiate anything with him. I'm > gonna take some pictures of timex, help him with his tranny, > eat some pizza with him and avoid ANY controversial subjects. :) I'll just leave that alone!!! ;} That list has really gotten slow since the last blow up. I think people have either left or are afraid to post anything. Brian 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport "Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in that order." - --Ed Howdershelt ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:25:57 -0400 From: fatmac99-at-mindspring.com Subject: fsj: Re: The Jerrari The Jerrari is a '77. Bill Harrah was an AMC dealer, and ordered the body and frame separately. The frame is a pick-up's which is a little sturdier than the wagon's. So I'm told. The Jerrari is actually the Jerrari II. The first one had the 365's nose grafted onto the front instead of the Wagoneer's, and had a Chevy 4speed. I understand it is still running around with a Chevy motor in it, and pretty ungainly in sight. I spent a whole lot of time polishing that beast, but have yet to talk anyone into letting me take it for a spin:-) Mike - -----Original Message----- From: john To: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:33 AM Subject: fsj: The Jerrari > http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ > >>Anyway, my question is, What is >>> this Jerrari? Half Jeep, Half Ferrari? This isn't the first time I've >>heard of it, but I've never seen pics or an explanation. >>Good luck on the book. >>> Make sure we all get a heads up when it comes out. >>>> Roger Goltz >> St. Louis, MO >> 79 Cherokee WT-The Bulldog >>> GoRogerGo-at-aol.com >>>It's a Grand Wagoneer (don't remember the year), with a Ferrari 12 cyl. >>engine transplanted into it. >>>Lindel > >Actually it's a 1978 Wagoneer, not technically a Grand, they didn't >come out until the little wagoneers (xj) models were intro'd in 1984. > >Lots of cool little details added, like ice detector system, rear >wipers, headlight wipers... radar detector... > >It has a lengthened front end by 2.5" to accomodate the V12, > done very nicely. I got some great detail shots of how they did it... and >we didn't even set off the alarm. ;) > >http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ > >the URL is to a "contact sheet" composite of several of the detailed >shots I took Spring of 99. > >The engine/trans setup is a Ferrari 365 GTC/4 V-12 and C4 5 speed >transmission coupled to the Jeep Quadratrac... top speed 140 mph. > >(this info is off the plaque... I have no earthly idea what C4 tranny >they're talking about... in my mind a C4 is a three speed ford auto...;) > >later, >john >----------------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > http://wagoneers.com/83stepside/ (Superdawg) > http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/FSJ_filters.html > Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >----------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:36:55 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari I can believe it's a 77, I knew it was a 77 or 78... But I don't believe the frame to be that of a pickup as the wheelbase is different. I'm trying to find my photos of the underside, the ones I've found look like a Wagoneer, but there is a doubt in my mind because of the way the exhaust mounts. Since the wheelbase looks like a standard wag, 108", and the body mounts seem normal, it's unlikely they used a pickup chassis. You're closer to the source than I am though. :) john At 06:25 PM 4/11/00 -0400, fatmac99-at-mindspring.com wrote: >The Jerrari is a '77. Bill Harrah was an AMC dealer, and ordered the body >and frame separately. The frame is a pick-up's which is a little sturdier >than the wagon's. So I'm told. > >The Jerrari is actually the Jerrari II. The first one had the 365's nose >grafted onto the front instead of the Wagoneer's, and had a Chevy 4speed. I >understand it is still running around with a Chevy motor in it, and pretty >ungainly in sight. > >I spent a whole lot of time polishing that beast, but have yet to talk >anyone into letting me take it for a spin:-) > >Mike >-----Original Message----- >From: john >To: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> >Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:33 AM >Subject: fsj: The Jerrari > > >> http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >> >>>Anyway, my question is, What is >>>> this Jerrari? Half Jeep, Half Ferrari? This isn't the first time I've >>>heard of it, but I've never seen pics or an explanation. >>>Good luck on the book. >>>> Make sure we all get a heads up when it comes out. >>>>> Roger Goltz >> St. Louis, MO >> 79 Cherokee WT-The Bulldog >>>> GoRogerGo-at-aol.com >>>>It's a Grand Wagoneer (don't remember the year), with a Ferrari 12 cyl. >>>engine transplanted into it. >>>>Lindel >> >>Actually it's a 1978 Wagoneer, not technically a Grand, they didn't >>come out until the little wagoneers (xj) models were intro'd in 1984. >> >>Lots of cool little details added, like ice detector system, rear >>wipers, headlight wipers... radar detector... >> >>It has a lengthened front end by 2.5" to accomodate the V12, >> done very nicely. I got some great detail shots of how they did it... and >>we didn't even set off the alarm. ;) >> >>http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >> >>the URL is to a "contact sheet" composite of several of the detailed >>shots I took Spring of 99. >> >>The engine/trans setup is a Ferrari 365 GTC/4 V-12 and C4 5 speed >>transmission coupled to the Jeep Quadratrac... top speed 140 mph. >> >>(this info is off the plaque... I have no earthly idea what C4 tranny >>they're talking about... in my mind a C4 is a three speed ford auto...;) >> >>later, >>john >>----------------------------------------------------------- >> john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com >> http://wagoneers.com/83stepside/ (Superdawg) >> http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/FSJ_filters.html >> Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >>----------------------------------------------------------- >> > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 100 15:50:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari Isn't the pickup frame also quite a bit wider than the wag frame in the rear? - -brad John writes: > I can believe it's a 77, I knew it was a 77 or 78... > > But I don't believe the frame to be that of a pickup as > the wheelbase is different. I'm trying to find my photos > of the underside, the ones I've found look like a Wagoneer, > but there is a doubt in my mind because of the way the > exhaust mounts. Since the wheelbase looks like > a standard wag, 108", and the body mounts seem normal, it's unlikely > they used a pickup chassis. > > You're closer to the source than I am though. :) > > john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:56:22 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari at 03:50 PM 4/11/00 -0700, Brad Seevers wrote: >>Isn't the pickup frame also quite a bit wider than the wag frame in the rear? > >-brad yes, and the axles are wider too... it doesn't make sense at this point. I'll have to look at my detailed photos again... john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:02:33 -0400 From: fatmac99-at-mindspring.com Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari The curator of the collection, Roger, said he helped build the Jerrari. It seems to me the serial number reflects that it should have a Buick 350 in it, and I asked him about it. That's when he told me how it was put together. He said some other things that I have since forgotten. I do know that there was quite a bit of custom work involved, seen and unseen, so maybe the frame was altered. What is the wheelbase of the pickup? I'm going to try my best to get out there for the spring waxxing party. I usually volunteer a day or two extra and help out with whatever. Last time I was there I spent approximately 11 hours polishing the brass parts of the 1913 KRIT. One time I aired up all the tires(yes ALL the tires). I'll ask Roger again about the body and frame. Maybe he won't mind me telling the list some of the secrets. Fly safe to Orlando, John. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: john To: fatmac99-at-mindspring.com Cc: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:35 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari > >I can believe it's a 77, I knew it was a 77 or 78... > >But I don't believe the frame to be that of a pickup as >the wheelbase is different. I'm trying to find my photos >of the underside, the ones I've found look like a Wagoneer, >but there is a doubt in my mind because of the way the >exhaust mounts. Since the wheelbase looks like >a standard wag, 108", and the body mounts seem normal, it's unlikely >they used a pickup chassis. > >You're closer to the source than I am though. :) > >john > >At 06:25 PM 4/11/00 -0400, fatmac99-at-mindspring.com wrote: >>The Jerrari is a '77. Bill Harrah was an AMC dealer, and ordered the body >>and frame separately. The frame is a pick-up's which is a little sturdier >>than the wagon's. So I'm told. >> >>The Jerrari is actually the Jerrari II. The first one had the 365's nose >>grafted onto the front instead of the Wagoneer's, and had a Chevy 4speed. I >>understand it is still running around with a Chevy motor in it, and pretty >>ungainly in sight. >> >>I spent a whole lot of time polishing that beast, but have yet to talk >>anyone into letting me take it for a spin:-) >> >>Mike >>-----Original Message----- >>From: john >>To: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> >>Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:33 AM >>Subject: fsj: The Jerrari >> >> >>> http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >>> >>>>Anyway, my question is, What is >>>>> this Jerrari? Half Jeep, Half Ferrari? This isn't the first time I've >>>>heard of it, but I've never seen pics or an explanation. >>>>Good luck on the book. >>>>> Make sure we all get a heads up when it comes out. >>>>>> Roger Goltz >> St. Louis, MO >> 79 Cherokee WT-The Bulldog >>>>> GoRogerGo-at-aol.com >>>>>It's a Grand Wagoneer (don't remember the year), with a Ferrari 12 cyl. >>>>engine transplanted into it. >>>>>Lindel >>> >>>Actually it's a 1978 Wagoneer, not technically a Grand, they didn't >>>come out until the little wagoneers (xj) models were intro'd in 1984. >>> >>>Lots of cool little details added, like ice detector system, rear >>>wipers, headlight wipers... radar detector... >>> >>>It has a lengthened front end by 2.5" to accomodate the V12, >>> done very nicely. I got some great detail shots of how they did it... and >>>we didn't even set off the alarm. ;) >>> >>>http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >>> >>>the URL is to a "contact sheet" composite of several of the detailed >>>shots I took Spring of 99. >>> >>>The engine/trans setup is a Ferrari 365 GTC/4 V-12 and C4 5 speed >>>transmission coupled to the Jeep Quadratrac... top speed 140 mph. >>> >>>(this info is off the plaque... I have no earthly idea what C4 tranny >>>they're talking about... in my mind a C4 is a three speed ford auto...;) >>> >>>later, >>>john >>>----------------------------------------------------------- >>> john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com >>> http://wagoneers.com/83stepside/ (Superdawg) >>> http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/FSJ_filters.html >>> Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >>>----------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >----------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >----------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:24:00 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari the buick 350 was only offered from 68 to 70 (plus or minus a year). If it's a 77 or 78 it could have only had the 360 or 401... Michael Baxter and I went over that thing pretty closely when I was there... we were looking under and around... we didn't miss much. :) john At 07:02 PM 4/11/00 -0400, fatmac99-at-mindspring.com wrote: >The curator of the collection, Roger, said he helped build the Jerrari. It >seems to me the serial number reflects that it should have a Buick 350 in >it, and I asked him about it. That's when he told me how it was put >together. He said some other things that I have since forgotten. I do know >that there was quite a bit of custom work involved, seen and unseen, so >maybe the frame was altered. What is the wheelbase of the pickup? > >I'm going to try my best to get out there for the spring waxxing party. I >usually volunteer a day or two extra and help out with whatever. Last time >I was there I spent approximately 11 hours polishing the brass parts of the >1913 KRIT. One time I aired up all the tires(yes ALL the tires). > >I'll ask Roger again about the body and frame. Maybe he won't mind me >telling the list some of the secrets. > >Fly safe to Orlando, John. > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: john >To: fatmac99-at-mindspring.com >Cc: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> >Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:35 PM >Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The Jerrari > > >> >>I can believe it's a 77, I knew it was a 77 or 78... >> >>But I don't believe the frame to be that of a pickup as >>the wheelbase is different. I'm trying to find my photos >>of the underside, the ones I've found look like a Wagoneer, >>but there is a doubt in my mind because of the way the >>exhaust mounts. Since the wheelbase looks like >>a standard wag, 108", and the body mounts seem normal, it's unlikely >>they used a pickup chassis. >> >>You're closer to the source than I am though. :) >> >>john >> >>At 06:25 PM 4/11/00 -0400, fatmac99-at-mindspring.com wrote: >>>The Jerrari is a '77. Bill Harrah was an AMC dealer, and ordered the body >>>and frame separately. The frame is a pick-up's which is a little sturdier >>>than the wagon's. So I'm told. >>> >>>The Jerrari is actually the Jerrari II. The first one had the 365's nose >>>grafted onto the front instead of the Wagoneer's, and had a Chevy 4speed. >I >>>understand it is still running around with a Chevy motor in it, and pretty >>>ungainly in sight. >>> >>>I spent a whole lot of time polishing that beast, but have yet to talk >>>anyone into letting me take it for a spin:-) >>> >>>Mike >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: john >>>To: fsj-at-digest.net ; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> >>>Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:33 AM >>>Subject: fsj: The Jerrari >>> >>> >>>> http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >>>> >>>>>Anyway, my question is, What is >>>>>> this Jerrari? Half Jeep, Half Ferrari? This isn't the first time I've >>>>>heard of it, but I've never seen pics or an explanation. >>>>>Good luck on the book. >>>>>> Make sure we all get a heads up when it comes out. >>>>>>> Roger Goltz >> St. Louis, MO >> 79 Cherokee WT-The Bulldog >>>>>> GoRogerGo-at-aol.com >>>>>>It's a Grand Wagoneer (don't remember the year), with a Ferrari 12 cyl. >>>>>engine transplanted into it. >>>>>>Lindel >>>> >>>>Actually it's a 1978 Wagoneer, not technically a Grand, they didn't >>>>come out until the little wagoneers (xj) models were intro'd in 1984. >>>> >>>>Lots of cool little details added, like ice detector system, rear >>>>wipers, headlight wipers... radar detector... >>>> >>>>It has a lengthened front end by 2.5" to accomodate the V12, >>>> done very nicely. I got some great detail shots of how they did it... >and >>>>we didn't even set off the alarm. ;) >>>> >>>>http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TheJerrari/ >>>> >>>>the URL is to a "contact sheet" composite of several of the detailed >>>>shots I took Spring of 99. >>>> >>>>The engine/trans setup is a Ferrari 365 GTC/4 V-12 and C4 5 speed >>>>transmission coupled to the Jeep Quadratrac... top speed 140 mph. >>>> >>>>(this info is off the plaque... I have no earthly idea what C4 tranny >>>>they're talking about... in my mind a C4 is a three speed ford auto...;) >>>> >>>>later, >>>>john >>>>----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com >>>> http://wagoneers.com/83stepside/ (Superdawg) >>>> http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/FSJ_filters.html >>>> Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >>>>----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>> >>----------------------------------------------------- >> john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com >> ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! >> Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >>----------------------------------------------------- >> > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! 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