From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Apr 14 13:16:27 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, April 14 2000 Volume 01 : Number 818 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] fsj: Mystery Bolt Re: fsj: radio waves Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] Re: fsj: radio waves Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] Re: fsj: radio waves fsj: Re: Rear Main Seal Re: [fsj: radio waves] [none] fsj: Super Wagoneer for sale in Helena MT Re: fsj: radio waves Re: fsj: radio waves Re: [fsj: radio waves] Re: fsj: Super Wagoneer for sale in Helena MT Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Re: fsj: Mystery Bolt FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:14:11 -0400 From: "Ray Drouillard" Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] > the ground plane is in front of the wave, or is > it field??? electromagnetic field... SWR, watts, ohms, impedance, > E=ir, Xc=2piFC, Z=.... ;) > flashback occuring, system down, > john That's Xc = 1/(2piFC) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:08:03 -0500 From: "Bob Bradfield" Subject: fsj: Mystery Bolt Whilst cleaning my 2150 2bbl carb, I found a bolt laying sideways - right under the baffle, on top of the bowls. This bolt is 3 3/4" long, 12mm head, has a regular washer and lock washer and a '7' with a dot above the 7 on the head. Any ideas? Reminder, the PO was an idiot. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:49:31 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: radio waves so where is the best place to put one on a J-10? R.J. Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com wrote: > AIUI (as I understand it): > > The antenna is the primary source of your transmission. > > For a straight line antenna, assumed to be infinitly long and discounting > reflection and interferance, the radio waves will travel outward in > concentric rings around the antenna. > > When the radio waves encounter a conductive material such as the FSJ body, > they are reflected depending on how good the conductor is. > > There is a really neat experiment that demonstrates this (among other > things) that floats a magnet on a flat plane of super conducting material > that reflects the electromagnetic waves without using any feedback. > > So your vehicle will cause a slight "shadow" that may be filled in by other > sources of reflection. Similiar to taking a portable radio inside a metal > building. > > Later, > > Jamie "I didn't fall asleep in all of my classes, just some of them" > Phillips > > '73 J4600 > '77 F250 > > home email: jphil78888-at-aol.com > work email: Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com > > ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** > > This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not > disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this > message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail > message in error, please delete the e-mail and any attachments > and notify Underwriters Laboratories Inc. at > e-mail_Disclaimer-at-us.ul.com. > > UL does not accept liability for any errors, omissions, corruption > or virus in the contents of this message or any attachments that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:12:51 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Ham would be a new frontier for me.. Michael Shimniok wrote: > "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > > How many watts does it put out? > > 4W, max FCC legal, typical stuff. For power, Ham is the way to go IMHO. It's > legal, it's FM (at least the common 2m/70cm), and the radios are light-years > more sophisticated than the average CB fare, especially when you get into the > worldwide rigs. > > > Can you peak and clip it? > > Errr... if I knew what that was... well it's something they do in the back inside of it, extra solder here , and a little fine tune there, , thus boosting the power in it > > > > Does it have a dyno mike? How low can you get it tuned to? 1's? > > No mic adjustments, no idea what a Dynomike is. Do tell. a dyno mike , is basically a power mike, with a button on it you can turn up for better modulation, they or did have one on the Cobra 29 LTD, also.. I ran both at the same time. I might try ham and CB, like some side band they have in the Cobra148 GTL, and have somebody put in the extra funny channels too... > XL tuned with a mere 30" antenna to very, very low 1's on my > primary channel. Tuning SWR is more an antenna/cable issue than radio anyway. > It's rather shocking to get such a short, finicky antenna tuned in that well. > Get a good antenna and low 1's (1.1, 1.2) should be pretty easy to achieve. > > > I think a Cobra 29 LTD, does better my self. > > (I was into CB's and CB's clubs for years) > > Cool. You're right, the 29LTD is probably more fully-featured and is a more > serious CB radio. How much does it cost? I had a Uniden PC66XL for awhile > with RF gain, mic gain, and some other goodies. Useful? Sure. But the unit > cost quite a bit. More than was necessary for off-road, really. > > I could've gotten the Grant XL and had USB/LSB and some delta tune features > and other wingdings. When would I use this off the road? Never. Where would > I put this behemoth radio? In the way just like the large 66XL. :) How would > I like it? Fine except when being blinded by the sun reflecting off the > chrome trim--this happened dozens of times. :) I like the president grants, not a bad set.. as for the Chrome.. well , I would say .. when your future is so bright .. you got to where shades....hehehehehe R.J. > > > Michael > > --- > Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that > is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:14:31 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] Wow.. careful.. John ...your really showing your age.. grin... R.J. john wrote: > At 05:46 PM 4/13/00 MDT, Michael Shimniok wrote: > >"R.J. Baynum" wrote: > >> How many watts does it put out? > > > >4W, max FCC legal, typical stuff. > > I thought it was 5 watts going into the final stage... > > However, when I had my commercial fcc radio-telephone license it was > way back when tubes were still in the tests... and the systems... ;) > > john > ----------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:17:14 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] excuse me.... can we have that again .... in laymen's terms ? What are you really trying to say.. grin.. R.J. Ray Drouillard wrote: > > the ground plane is in front of the wave, or is > > it field??? electromagnetic field... SWR, watts, ohms, impedance, > > E=ir, Xc=2piFC, Z=.... ;) > > flashback occuring, system down, > > john > > That's Xc = 1/(2piFC) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, R.J. Baynum wrote: >-->excuse me.... >-->can we have that again .... in laymen's terms ? >-->What are you really trying to say.. grin.. how does that one commercial go? redbull gives you wings.... rofl... john >--> >--> >-->R.J. >--> >-->Ray Drouillard wrote: >--> >-->> > the ground plane is in front of the wave, or is >-->> > it field??? electromagnetic field... SWR, watts, ohms, impedance, >-->> > E=ir, Xc=2piFC, Z=.... ;) >-->> > flashback occuring, system down, >-->> > john >-->> >-->> That's Xc = 1/(2piFC) :-) >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:00:11 -0700 From: Thunderbird Subject: Re: fsj: radio waves I would guess, center hole of roll bar "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > so where is the best place to put one on a J-10? > > R.J. Brian 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport "Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in that order." - --Ed Howdershelt ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [1FSJ] Re: [fsj: CB radio] On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Ray Drouillard wrote: >-->> the ground plane is in front of the wave, or is >-->> it field??? electromagnetic field... SWR, watts, ohms, impedance, >-->> E=ir, Xc=2piFC, Z=.... ;) >-->> flashback occuring, system down, >-->> john >--> >-->That's Xc = 1/(2piFC) :-) Did I say Xc? I meant Xl. ;) besides, the system was tango uniform... RFO=OHS john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: radio waves On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Thunderbird wrote: >-->I would guess, center hole of roll bar that could be a problem for RJ... ;) seems he doesn't have a roll bar... on the other hand, don't you already have an antenna mount on the driver's side mirror??? john >--> >-->"R.J. Baynum" wrote: >--> > so where is the best place to put one on a J-10? >--> > >--> > R.J. >--> >--> >-->Brian >-->78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 >-->97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport >--> >-->"Four boxes to be used in defense of >-->liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in >-->that order." >-->--Ed Howdershelt >--> >-->______________________________________________________ >-->Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com >-->Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting >-->cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com >--> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 00:31:13 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: Rear Main Seal > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:20:44 -0400 > From: Michael Baxter (snip) > Every once in awhile > someone reports not being able to remove the upper half which, IMO, would= > mean you'd have to pull the engine: Actually, I perfected a method for that, but I try not to get my wind-bag cranked up unless somebody is in need. The only pre-requisite is that you not bash the wire core of the upper seal into submission with a 3lb hammer and brass drift. If anybody wants to try that too, I can tell you how to build a very stout brass drift that fits in the seal groove of the block. I ended up doing an engine rebuild anyway, so it turned out to be a useless learning experience. Turns out the seal was stuck in with some kind of adhesive. I'm guessing the sloppy crank bearings were walking out rear seals so the PO glued it in there. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:26:33 -0500 From: Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com Subject: Re: [fsj: radio waves] Michael E. Shimniok wrote: >The truck--body, frame--acts as your antenna's GROUND PLANE, helping your >transmission rather than hindering it. This is all voodoo and I don't >understand it despite a degree that involved too many EE classes and passing >my Ham license test a year ago. :) Doesn't that ground plane still reflect/block the transmission, similiar to when some high frequency devices are "wraped" with a ground plane (usually looks like a tin box) to prevent emf emmissions from exiting the device. This is done for electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) reasons, but aren't the concepts similiar? (blocking/reflecting emf radiation) >4W, max FCC legal, typical stuff. For power, Ham is the way to go IMHO. It's >legal, it's FM (at least the common 2m/70cm), and the radios are light-years >more sophisticated than the average CB fare, especially when you get into the >worldwide rigs. Doesn't the FCC require a license for anything above a certain power output or to legally use Ham frequencies? Then they have the different levels of license for Ham Radio.................... Later, Jamie "gotta wrap my head in tin foil to stop the signals from space" Phillips '73 J4600 '77 F250 home email: jphil78888-at-aol.com work email: Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify Underwriters Laboratories Inc. at e-mail_Disclaimer-at-us.ul.com. UL does not accept liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message or any attachments that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:32:47 -0500 From: Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com Subject: [none] Ben Williams wrote: >I first got interested in straight 6's years ago when I ran across my first >Ford 300. I've been looking for just the right combo ever since but haven't >yet found it. In a pickup, I won't settle for a 1/2 ton and 3/4's with a >300-6 are not very common. I didn't realize that they weren't very common. My '77 F-250 has the straight 6. Now I can tell my wife, "see it is special." ;-) Later, Jamie "I need a bigger drive way too" Phillips '73 J4600 '77 F250 home email: jphil78888-at-aol.com work email: Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com ********* Internet E-mail Confidentiality Disclaimer ********** This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify Underwriters Laboratories Inc. at e-mail_Disclaimer-at-us.ul.com. UL does not accept liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in the contents of this message or any attachments that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:12:39 PDT From: "John Bushnell" Subject: fsj: Super Wagoneer for sale in Helena MT >From Transportation : 4X4S Collector Item 1967 jeep Super Wagoneer. Four door, 327, auto, 4x4. Runs good, great interior. $1650. 406-442-5512 I've not seen this jeep, but I could go look at it for someone who is seriously interested. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:28:08 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: radio waves I would, but I don't have a roll bar as yet.. R.J. Thunderbird wrote: > I would guess, center hole of roll bar > > "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > > so where is the best place to put one on a J-10? > > > > R.J. > > > Brian > 78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 > 97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport > > "Four boxes to be used in defense of > liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in > that order." > --Ed Howdershelt > > ______________________________________________________ > Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com > Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:32:11 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: radio waves yes .. I do.. as you know.. but .. I was wondering if it was truly the best place possible.. right now.. also what size is my truck bed? when I was looking at a Box for the back, they said , "Full size" what exactly is my correct term for my size? ( I also want to get a roll bar too... one of these days R.J. john wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Thunderbird wrote: > > >-->I would guess, center hole of roll bar > > that could be a problem for RJ... ;) seems he doesn't > have a roll bar... on the other hand, don't you already > have an antenna mount on the driver's side mirror??? > > john > > >--> > >-->"R.J. Baynum" wrote: > >--> > so where is the best place to put one on a J-10? > >--> > > >--> > R.J. > >--> > >--> > >-->Brian > >-->78 J10-4 4bbl/360/TH400/PTQT/D44/D44 > >-->97 Thunderbird LX 4.6 V8/Sport > >--> > >-->"Four boxes to be used in defense of > >-->liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo - use in > >-->that order." > >-->--Ed Howdershelt > >--> > >-->______________________________________________________ > >-->Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com > >-->Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting > >-->cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com > >--> > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com > don't leave life without Jesus, please... > Snohomish, Washington USA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:27:04 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [fsj: radio waves] At 08:26 AM 4/14/00 -0500, Jamie.L.Phillips-at-us.ul.com wrote: >Doesn't that ground plane still reflect/block the transmission, similiar >to when some high frequency devices are "wraped" with a ground plane >(usually looks like a tin box) to prevent emf emmissions from exiting the >device. This is done for electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) reasons, but >aren't the concepts similiar? (blocking/reflecting emf radiation) You're talking about a faraday shield. It's a critical element in order to meet EMI requirements for avionics and even some commercial items. It basically "absorbs" the electromagnetic field and shunts it to ground. If you've ever looked in a TV, vcr or radio you'll see them. They're used to isolate spurious radiation from internal oscillator and IF circuits. It is the reflection from the ground plane that aids the propagation of the radio waves... that's why I was (still am) fuzzy on the issue of the correct location of the antenna to get the best forward/left transmission. john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:51:06 PDT From: "John Bushnell" Subject: Re: fsj: Super Wagoneer for sale in Helena MT If any is interested, I'd ask that they call on the vehicle and ask the owner questions. I can verify the condition, etc. but I'm no FSJ expert. Just let me know, John Bushnell >From: john >To: "John Bushnell" >Subject: Re: fsj: Super Wagoneer for sale in Helena MT >Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:46:35 -0700 > >I sent a message to Richard Truesdell, my guess is he'll >be interested, problem is he may be in Germany right now... > >You might want to check it out... also Super Ken might be interested >as well... do you have his email? > >john > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Apr 00 12:12:59 MDT From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] john wrote: > makes sense... I knew it was left front or right rear... > problem with right rear here is trees, stumps, rocks and banks... > (banks as in dirt banks from DEEPLY rutted trails) Hm... trying to picture this... You know that little flat section of vertical sheet metal area above the taillights? It kind of has a bevel around it. It's right below the top = of the tailgate. Can you mount it there? Or on the bumper, so that it is covering up the left side of the tail light? I'm sure I would've lost several antennas if I'd put it on the side of th= e rear quarterpanel or on the side in that triangular section of sheet meta= l making up the rearmost roof pillar. Plenty of trees and rocks here, too.= I think the trick is to mount the antenna on a spring. :) My K40 stayed up top despite some serious collisions with tree branches, = but the K40's come with unbelievably strong magmounts to the extent that it n= early takes both hands to pull it off, and you have to pry it off sideways, it = is impossible to lift it straight off. Trust me. The on-roof thing isn't ideal, the antenna is too short to be very versat= ile, but I do have it tuned in well, and it's already mounted, so it'll be awh= ile before I pick a new arrangement. Don't fix it if it ain't broke, right? = :) Michael - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:35:54 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [Re: [fsj: CB radio]] At 12:12 PM 4/14/00 MDT, Michael Shimniok wrote: >john wrote: >> makes sense... I knew it was left front or right rear... >> problem with right rear here is trees, stumps, rocks and banks... >> (banks as in dirt banks from DEEPLY rutted trails) > >Hm... trying to picture this... > >You know that little flat section of vertical sheet metal area above the >taillights? It kind of has a bevel around it. It's right below the top of >the tailgate. Can you mount it there? Or on the bumper, so that it is >covering up the left side of the tail light? tried both, on both sides... even with springs... I've tried a variation of mounts too... the best place up here is off the mirrors or front fenders... john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/JEEPS/jeep-family-March-2000-1.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Mystery Bolt A: Anchors for the floats? LOL! Maybe he had it holding the aircleaner down and it got lost? Remember that PO can stand for present as well as previous owner! LOL! Bob=A0Bradfield wrote: Whilst cleaning my 2150 2bbl carb, I found a bolt laying sideways - right under the baffle, on top of the bowls. This bolt is 3 3/4" long, 12mm head, has a regular washer and lock washer and a '7' with a dot above the 7 on the head. Any ideas? Reminder, the PO was an idiot. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #818 *************************