From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat May 20 23:14:39 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, May 20 2000 Volume 01 : Number 863 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: new FSJ stickers in! fsj: RJ's continuing life with an FSJ... fsj: Diesel power again fsj: Re: [1FSJ] new FSJ stickers in! fsj: Re: Diesel power again fsj: RE: Third week into FSJ ownership (long). RE: fsj: Digital Cameras... fsj: RE: RJ's continuing life with an FSJ... Re: fsj: Digital Cameras... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:26:53 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: new FSJ stickers in! I just got the shipment of FSJ stickers in from the printers. There should be an ad in the next issue of FSJ magazine for them as well... hopefully... Anyway, details at: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/decal.html I'm sending out those ordered already to: Jason in NJ, Michel in CA, Mallory in NC, Jason in WA and Bob in NY thanx for your patience... ttyl, john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:37:40 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: RJ's continuing life with an FSJ... On the choke, in the old days I was taught to use a drill bit, 1/16th inch if I remember correctly. So you'd go in and adjust it cold with a drill bit in place... That was 30 years ago though... man... wow... it doesn't SEEM like that long ago... oh well... >Also that clunking, is not the U -joint, because it clunks, ( not as loud) when you >are turning the wheels back and forth in park. We took it for a test drive, going down >the road, about 25 mph.. never could figure out what that was either, neither could the previous owner... >swerving back and forth, making it clunk more, you could feel the vibrations through >the floor, like a large rock, hitting the bottom of the truck. The best we could figure is it was the right spring rear shackle or spring shifting a bit... >He said it is nothing really bad or at least life threatening, and to get back with kind of what everyone else figured too... might be related to the dent in the fender in thinking about it... I bet it has to do with the spring pack. >him, when he has a lift open, He did not charge me anything for his time or showing >me about the choke. really pretty simple.. > >And He noticed it was running hot, ( or at least warmer then it should be) I think >,...John put a 190 degree in it? I left the package... could have sworn I did a 180... I know the "fail-safe" piece of work I had put in there failed and it was running cool... pretty sure I reinstalled a 180, could be wrong though. >Anyway.. He said it would be better to be fitted with >a electric fan, and take some drag off the engine, and boost the MPG as well. captial B... I TOOK an electric fan off after it failed by Mt. Shasta! I boiled over during a traffic jam driving home... pulled off and managed to keep it from popping anything, whew... When I got to Medford I ripped the mickey mouse electric fan out and put the stock fan back in. It made NO difference in the mileage... I had two full days before and after, NO change. The drag on a clutch type fan like that is very, very minimal. Don't believe it'll help you at all, because it'll fail on you when you really need it. I believe Wes's cats are enjoying that electric fan now... ;) >What do you guys think? what, you weren't listening? ;) >I am only getting 9 mpg. I was getting 8mpg, what you'd do to improve it? :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 00:40:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: Diesel power again How big is the puke-it diesel in an XJ? How many HP & ft lbs of torque? Anyone know the same for an '81 Nissan diesel 6 cyl? I tripped over one for sale today, and may swap stuff for it. It has an AW4 auto trans already! That would allow me to pull the 4.0L from the '88 XJ I have for another stroker build up (PS: The overheat was due to no fan thermal control!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:43:29 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: Re: [1FSJ] new FSJ stickers in! At the link he sent, it says 5 bucks.. John.... put me down for one! R.J. Lindel Easley wrote: > Refresh my memory, John. How much are they? > > Lindel > > -----Original Message----- > From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 1:27 AM > To: fsj-at-digest.net; 1FSJ-at-egroups.com > Subject: [1FSJ] new FSJ stickers in! > > I just got the shipment of FSJ stickers in from the printers. > There should be an ad in the next issue of FSJ magazine for them > as well... hopefully... > > Anyway, details at: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/decal.html > > I'm sending out those ordered already to: Jason in NJ, > Michel in CA, Mallory in NC, Jason in WA and Bob in NY > thanx for your patience... > > ttyl, > john > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg > SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 > ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > ------- > ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... > ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Up to 60% OFF food! > Buy Now and Shipping is Free. > http://click.egroups.com/1/4016/7/_/696737/_/958803759/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To Subscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-subscribe-at-egroups.com > To Unsubscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-unsubscribe-at-egroups.com Visit Our > homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/1FSJ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Find long lost high school friends: > http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/7/_/696737/_/958832245/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To Subscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-subscribe-at-egroups.com > To Unsubscribe send an email to: 1FSJ-unsubscribe-at-egroups.com Visit Our homepage: http://www.egroups.com/group/1FSJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:04:05 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Diesel power again it's a Renault TD that was used in the 85 to 87 xjs. 85hp, 115ftlbs of torque.. At 12:40 AM 5/20/00 -0700, James Blair wrote: >How big is the puke-it diesel in an XJ? How many HP & ft lbs of torque? >Anyone know the same for an '81 Nissan diesel 6 cyl? I tripped over one >for sale today, and may swap stuff for it. It has an AW4 auto trans >already! That would allow me to pull the 4.0L from the '88 XJ I have for >another stroker build up (PS: The overheat was due to no fan thermal >control!) > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr >http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on >allexperts.com Pics: >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:45:15 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: Third week into FSJ ownership (long). IMHO, if you stay with an automatic transmission, you can't get a better one then the TH400. It is very hard to break a TH400 (commonly used in 1 Ton 4x4 Chevy trucks). JC Jones :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of DSandelands-at-aol.com Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:28 PM To: fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: Third week into FSJ ownership (long). Just a few musings. I am into my third week with a '77 cherokee, 401v8, auto, QT. I haven't turned a wrench since high school and have forgotten how time consuming even routine maintence can be. Changing the fluids in the engine, front and rear diff's, transfer case, and the auto trans took an entire day. Not to mention it was a dirty, greasy, messy job. This was weekend one. Weekend two. The engine had an annoying habit of not starting from time to time. Traced this intermittant failure down to a bad ignition switch. Replaced the ignition switch and the neutral start switch for good measure. The problem hasn't reocurred so I guess its fixed. Still carrying a multi-meter in the rig just in case though. Weekend three. Failed the California smog test. Great. Fortuneatly, the tech pointed me in the right direction and testing with a vacum gage indicated the EGR CTO switch was bad as the tech had suggested. You would think one could readily find a CTO switch in LA, but no..., the closest switch was in Colorado! Called the dealership had the switch shipped out. Installing it and getting through smog will be weekend 4's project. My thanks to M. Baxter for his write up on adjusting the stearing gearbox. I was able to get rid of about 4 inches of play following his method and now the steering feels nice and tight. Except the pump leaks where the high pressure hose goes into the rear of housing. Of course thats right through a hole in a bracket so you can't really see what's happening. Fixing that will be some other weekend's project. I am giving "project" jeep a rest for awhile. Did some research on a trans swap. Seems like a TH700R4 is the easiest swap. The 700r4 would suck substantially less power off of the engine and I guess if I can't figure out a way to retrofit a manual it will have to do. Advanced adapters makes a transfer case adapter for the 700r4, but its expensive at about $500. If anyone knows of another way to mate the 700r4 to the QT please let me know. Another possiblility which I haven't had time to check out is the 4L80E. Possibly, the TH400 tailshaft would bolt in, but even if it did, this swap would have extensive computer control issues. Finally, does anyone know if the Spicer 18 is a direct bolt in for a QT. I.e., would the front and rear drive shafts need to be modified? I really want a manual trans even if I have to change transfer cases to get it. Dave 2000 Mercury Cougar, V6, mtx 1977 Jeep Cherokee, 401V8, atx (i.e., slush box) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:55:22 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: RE: fsj: Digital Cameras... I use a Kodac DC210+ and love it. It's high res mode has a resolution that I can't remember right now, but it's substantially larger than my 1024x768 desktop and very clear. It does suffer from the delay problem that John was talking about as well, but the delay is only about .5 seconds. I use a notebook primarily and the DC210+ uses the CF memory cards (up to 96MB) and I got a PCMCIA to CF adapter card to read the memory card as a hard drive (works great and automatically in Windoze and Mandrake-Linux alike). I think the Kodac DC series cameras are around $500 too. JC Jones :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:01 AM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Re: fsj: Digital Cameras... At 01:37 AM 5/20/00 EDT, you wrote: >I really like the quality of your digital pics John. As I'm looking for a D >Camera myself, which did you choose and how how much did you have to spend - >just curious. > >Rob I've got two. Both Olympus. Remember last fall I traded my 77 Wagoneer for a camera and an expensive bike? Well, if I hadn't done that I'd never have even considered the Olympus. I got the DL320 in the trade. It's a fixed lens, does pretty good. 1024x960 in high res. But they tend to eat batteries... so I bought rechargeables and it's working fine. :) Then I decided I really wanted the DL450, with the 3x zoom... got my tax return and then went looking at Costco to find one... no luck, well, luckier really... they had the DL460, it came with some rechargeable batteries and a couple other features the DL450 doesn't have. Costco sells 'em at $499.00, I've also seen 'em in the elinux.com catalog for the same price. I don't like the DL460 as much as the DL320 for taking pictures under the rig though... that lens sticking out and trying to adjust the telephoto isn't easy... So I crawl underneath with the DL320. :) BTW, the 460 has several resolutions and all kinds of other bells and whistles. It does 640x480 for SQ and 1280x960 HQ, but it also does something more than the 320 (which also has the same res modes) and that is it'll do SHQ and SHQ-TIFF. In other word it'll create monster files. :) The optical qualities of the Olympus is what drew me toward them. I have had trouble with the 320, have an engineer at work that does a lot of model design for our handheld scanners and has fixed some mechanical problems. :) Of course I keep his UNIX design workstation purring along nicely... ;) The other benefit of the Olympus is they are compatible with LINUX!!! :) I'm using the Flash Path Disk with Windoze. I guess when I swing over completely to Linux I'll have to use the serial cables unless I find a driver for the Flash Path... could happen. :) Anyway, bottom line, the Olympus Digitals have been working very well for me for automotive photography. I've gathered pictures for a few articles recently with them... One of my recent favorite ones is those lights on my main web page... :) Not sure why I like it... I'm sure I'll tire of it soon enough... Shoot, I only changed my main page three times in the last 24hrs... rofl... :) One other thing on the Digitals, they are a little slow... the 320 is worse than the 460 though... I mean you point, aim, hit the shutter and it takes a few seconds time to shoot!!! Yikes, I've missed a bunch of shots with it... I'm used to a 35mm... on the other hand, I've probably saved enough in film to make a good down payment on the DC. :) Tomorrow, Swap Meet in Monroe, WA... gotta run, john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 09:58:06 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: RJ's continuing life with an FSJ... RJ, I am 99% sure that if you replace the front spring bushings your clunk will go away, especially with what you have said about the problem and the results of the "turn while in park" test (which by the way you never got back to me on the results of that test). As for the mileage, be glad, I only get 6mpg. JC Jones :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:38 AM To: fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: RJ's continuing life with an FSJ... On the choke, in the old days I was taught to use a drill bit, 1/16th inch if I remember correctly. So you'd go in and adjust it cold with a drill bit in place... That was 30 years ago though... man... wow... it doesn't SEEM like that long ago... oh well... >Also that clunking, is not the U -joint, because it clunks, ( not as loud) when you >are turning the wheels back and forth in park. We took it for a test drive, going down >the road, about 25 mph.. never could figure out what that was either, neither could the previous owner... >swerving back and forth, making it clunk more, you could feel the vibrations through >the floor, like a large rock, hitting the bottom of the truck. The best we could figure is it was the right spring rear shackle or spring shifting a bit... >He said it is nothing really bad or at least life threatening, and to get back with kind of what everyone else figured too... might be related to the dent in the fender in thinking about it... I bet it has to do with the spring pack. >him, when he has a lift open, He did not charge me anything for his time or showing >me about the choke. really pretty simple.. > >And He noticed it was running hot, ( or at least warmer then it should be) I think >,...John put a 190 degree in it? I left the package... could have sworn I did a 180... I know the "fail-safe" piece of work I had put in there failed and it was running cool... pretty sure I reinstalled a 180, could be wrong though. >Anyway.. He said it would be better to be fitted with >a electric fan, and take some drag off the engine, and boost the MPG as well. captial B... I TOOK an electric fan off after it failed by Mt. Shasta! I boiled over during a traffic jam driving home... pulled off and managed to keep it from popping anything, whew... When I got to Medford I ripped the mickey mouse electric fan out and put the stock fan back in. It made NO difference in the mileage... I had two full days before and after, NO change. The drag on a clutch type fan like that is very, very minimal. Don't believe it'll help you at all, because it'll fail on you when you really need it. I believe Wes's cats are enjoying that electric fan now... ;) >What do you guys think? what, you weren't listening? ;) >I am only getting 9 mpg. I was getting 8mpg, what you'd do to improve it? :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 11:19:40 -0500 From: "TLynn" Subject: Re: fsj: Digital Cameras... I use a Sony Mavica due to its simplicity. My wife needed to use it as often as I do so a few years ago when I went to shop around it was the best for the money and simplicity, no flash cards or proprietary software needed. It uses a floppy disk to save the pics on and you can choose 3 different quality types and they are stored as jpgs. I paid around $500 for it but that was a few years ago. I will buy another someday soon but I sure would like to keep the floppy storage but I don't think any of the mega pixels cameras use it anymore due to the size of the pics. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JC Jones" To: "john" ; "FSJ Digest" Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:55 Subject: RE: fsj: Digital Cameras... I use a Kodac DC210+ and love it. It's high res mode has a resolution that I can't remember right now, but it's substantially larger than my 1024x768 desktop and very clear. It does suffer from the delay problem that John was talking about as well, but the delay is only about .5 seconds. I use a notebook primarily and the DC210+ uses the CF memory cards (up to 96MB) and I got a PCMCIA to CF adapter card to read the memory card as a hard drive (works great and automatically in Windoze and Mandrake-Linux alike). I think the Kodac DC series cameras are around $500 too. JC Jones :) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:01 AM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Re: fsj: Digital Cameras... At 01:37 AM 5/20/00 EDT, you wrote: >I really like the quality of your digital pics John. As I'm looking for a D >Camera myself, which did you choose and how how much did you have to spend - >just curious. > >Rob I've got two. Both Olympus. Remember last fall I traded my 77 Wagoneer for a camera and an expensive bike? Well, if I hadn't done that I'd never have even considered the Olympus. I got the DL320 in the trade. It's a fixed lens, does pretty good. 1024x960 in high res. But they tend to eat batteries... so I bought rechargeables and it's working fine. :) Then I decided I really wanted the DL450, with the 3x zoom... got my tax return and then went looking at Costco to find one... no luck, well, luckier really... they had the DL460, it came with some rechargeable batteries and a couple other features the DL450 doesn't have. Costco sells 'em at $499.00, I've also seen 'em in the elinux.com catalog for the same price. I don't like the DL460 as much as the DL320 for taking pictures under the rig though... that lens sticking out and trying to adjust the telephoto isn't easy... So I crawl underneath with the DL320. :) BTW, the 460 has several resolutions and all kinds of other bells and whistles. It does 640x480 for SQ and 1280x960 HQ, but it also does something more than the 320 (which also has the same res modes) and that is it'll do SHQ and SHQ-TIFF. In other word it'll create monster files. :) The optical qualities of the Olympus is what drew me toward them. I have had trouble with the 320, have an engineer at work that does a lot of model design for our handheld scanners and has fixed some mechanical problems. :) Of course I keep his UNIX design workstation purring along nicely... ;) The other benefit of the Olympus is they are compatible with LINUX!!! :) I'm using the Flash Path Disk with Windoze. I guess when I swing over completely to Linux I'll have to use the serial cables unless I find a driver for the Flash Path... could happen. :) Anyway, bottom line, the Olympus Digitals have been working very well for me for automotive photography. I've gathered pictures for a few articles recently with them... One of my recent favorite ones is those lights on my main web page... :) Not sure why I like it... I'm sure I'll tire of it soon enough... Shoot, I only changed my main page three times in the last 24hrs... rofl... :) One other thing on the Digitals, they are a little slow... the 320 is worse than the 460 though... I mean you point, aim, hit the shutter and it takes a few seconds time to shoot!!! Yikes, I've missed a bunch of shots with it... I'm used to a 35mm... on the other hand, I've probably saved enough in film to make a good down payment on the DC. :) Tomorrow, Swap Meet in Monroe, WA... gotta run, john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #863 *************************