From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jun 7 11:24:16 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, June 7 2000 Volume 01 : Number 882 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [fsj: Intake] Re: fsj: Re: Intake fsj: Re: Superdawg resting... Re: fsj: Re: Superdawg resting... fsj: Re: seat belts fsj: Re: hey Ben... 72 Brochure on Ebay... :) fsj: Re:Intake fsj: Re: Re: seat belts Re: fsj: Re:Intake Re: fsj: Re:Intake fsj: Re: seat belts fsj: Eddie's stories back on line!!! fsj: Eddie's stories back on line!!! fsj: looks like we may be back!!! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Jun 00 10:58:03 MDT From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [fsj: Intake] "Bob Bradfield" wrote: > the manifold from an 85 Wag ($10.00 great shape) so I can attempt to > figure out this vacuum mess. First thing I noticed is the vacuum > distributor is in the rear of this one, mine is in the front. What I > think happened is the DSPreO replaced the second CTO with a vacuum > distrib. It gets better. The EGR valve on mine is aiming the wrong > way and, is hooked to the vacuum canister. Not the charcoal canister > but, the black coffee can. Hurmmm... if I were you I'd find a vacuum diagram and redo all your vacuu= m hookups, R&R the CTOs and so on. Ultimately, that'd be easier than swapi= ng manifolds, IMHO. You could probably find someone on the list with an 83 = set up right who can help you figure out where stuff goes. I've monkeyed wit= h vacuum stuff a bit but I have an 85 and 86. Let me know if I can help. Michael - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:55:10 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Intake I need my car ramps for the Car Care Clinic I'm running down in Kirkland tomorrow morning for my church... I'd also like to get the driveshaft out so I can swap the one in the little wagoneer... I suspect that the transfer case I bought from you may end up in the little wagoneer... the noises are getting worse and my wife won't part with "her" jeep, not even for a Mercedes! ;) Hey, if you're around Saturday morning I could use another wrench to help work on about 15 cars for single moms. We run this clinic about once a year or so. I've got 3 or 4 "mechanics", Lord help me, that show up... My job is to keep these very helpful folks from dismantling the wrong part of the cars. I had one other buddy who is a certified mechanic that used to help me, he can't handle the stress though... ;) He was wigging out at the last one... You know it was serious when both of us reached for our emergency tool kits to get the rig back on the road... the guy that tried to do the "tune-up" didn't realize you're not supposed to remove the distributer from the vehicle... and of course he ended up breaking bolts... argghhhh... hep. john At 11:33 PM 6/1/00 -0700, James Blair wrote: >A: They come in both flavours. I'm dead tired (looong day, on 2 hours >sleep and job interview that went well) I'm going to try to get up there >tomorrow to do some cutting before I go get my son from BC. > - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:57:21 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Superdawg resting... where at in Chicago? Unfortunately any trip back to Chicago would be in a "family" rig... :( Went back for my HS reunion in '94. Also went back a couple years ago... man, was it flat. :) john At 03:12 AM 6/2/00 -0400, fatmac99-at-mindspring.com wrote: >Saw in the newspaper while in Chicago this week, a restaurant named >"Superdawg's" with a giant hot dog man on the roof. If you are ever in the >neighborhood, it sounds like a great photo opportunity. > >Mike >from Chicago, stuck in Georgia > > - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:08:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Superdawg resting... So put a camper on! LOL! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:16:27 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: seat belts > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:27:51 -0600 > From: "Kim Smith" > > Honestly, the state most used belts and mechanisms are in, I wouldn't > trust my life to them. Pony up the $100 bucks and get a new one from > JC Whipme. I bought shoulder belts from them for my '71 for about $65. I bought lap belts locally for $35. Used seatbelts seem like a needless risk to me too. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:12:49 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: hey Ben... 72 Brochure on Ebay... :) Cool, thanks. The last one I saw and bid on ended up selling for around $35! Needless to say, I'm not that much in need. : ) I'll keep an eye on this one and see what happens. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:23:07 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re:Intake Are you talking about swapping from one stock 2v cast-iron intake manifold to another stock 2v cast-iron manifold? Unless there is substantial physical damage to the one that's on there now, it hardly seems worthwhile. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:14:36 -0500 > From: "Bob Bradfield" > > Ok, I finally got an Intake from a guy here in Houston (you oughta see his > CJ - he dropped the 360 with the full Edelbrock pkg... Sweet) He sold me > the manifold from an 85 Wag ($10.00 great shape) so I can attempt to figure > out this vacuum mess. First thing I noticed is the vacuum distributor is in > the rear of this one, mine is in the front. What I think happened is the > DSPreO replaced the second CTO with a vacuum distrib. It gets better. The > EGR valve on mine is aiming the wrong way and, is hooked to the vacuum > canister. Not the charcoal canister but, the black coffee can. > > My question: As the one I just got is in such good shape and, as the one on > my Wag is so messed up, a swap is in order, yes? And, if so, what else > should a non-mechanic dummy like me do while I have the manifold off? Oil > passage ways? I dunno, any advice would be appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:27:22 -0600 From: "Kim Smith" Subject: fsj: Re: Re: seat belts BTW, I just got the latest JC Whipme catalog, and the retractable lap belt/shoulder assemblies are marked down to $79.99, in a variety of colors. In the "Jeep"section, they have a lap/shoulder combo for $69.99, in any color as long as it's black. I assume this is intended for the CJ-Wrangler Jeep, but it should fit an FSJ. kim '80 Wagoneer "J0E", 360 v2,T-727,NP219 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, 02 June, 2000 11:16 Subject: fsj: Re: seat belts > > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:27:51 -0600 > > From: "Kim Smith" > > > > Honestly, the state most used belts and mechanisms are in, I wouldn't > > trust my life to them. Pony up the $100 bucks and get a new one from > > JC Whipme. > > I bought shoulder belts from them for my '71 for about $65. I bought lap > belts locally for $35. Used seatbelts seem like a needless risk to me too. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer > '78 F-250 4x4 > '88 Bronco > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re:Intake A: I'm 95% sure he means going to a 4bbl (it's what I read anyway) Ben wrote: Are you talking about swapping from one stock 2v cast-iron intake manifold to another stock 2v cast-iron manifold? Unless there is substantial physical damage to the one that's on there now, it hardly seems worthwhile. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:14:36 -0500 =A0From: "Bob Bradfield" =A0Ok, I finally got an Intake from a guy here in Houston (you oughta see his =A0CJ - he dropped the 360 with the full Edelbrock pkg... Sweet) He sold me =A0the manifold from an 85 Wag ($10.00 great shape) so I can attempt to figure =A0out this vacuum mess. First thing I noticed is the vacuum distributor is in =A0the rear of this one, mine is in the front. What I think happened is the =A0DSPreO replaced the second CTO with a vacuum distrib. It gets better. The =A0EGR valve on mine is aiming the wrong way and, is hooked to the vacuum =A0canister. Not the charcoal canister but, the black coffee can. =A0My question: As the one I just got is in such good shape and, as the one on =A0my Wag is so messed up, a swap is in order, yes? And, if so, what else =A0should a non-mechanic dummy like me do while I have the manifold off? Oil =A0passage ways? I dunno, any advice would be appreciated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:15:48 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: Re:Intake In a message dated 6/2/2000 10:25:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Carnuck-at-webtv.net writes: > A: I'm 95% sure he means going to a 4bbl (it's what I read anyway) If he ran onto a $10 4v intake he's got a good deal going! Now lessee.... what'd I pay for that intake you sold me? Which by the way I'm very happy with. I gave it a fresh coat of AMC blue before the install and added a chrome oil fill tube. Now if I could just get the bugs out of that 4350... I know, get an AFB. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:18:22 EDT From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: seat belts In a message dated 6/2/2000 10:27:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wmksmith-at-bigsky.net writes: > BTW, I just got the latest JC Whipme catalog, and the retractable > lap belt/shoulder assemblies are marked down to $79.99, in a variety of > colors. > In the "Jeep"section, they have a lap/shoulder combo for $69.99, in any > color > as long as it's black. I assume this is intended for the CJ-Wrangler Jeep, > but > it should fit an FSJ. IIRC I used the one from the "van" section that was for a bench seat. I have a bench seat in my Wag and thought it might work better. I had to have the buckle end shortened at a shoe repair, but otherwise it's perfect. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 '88 Bronco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:48:09 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Eddie's stories back on line!!! Tales of Ol' White have returned! I am in the midst of restoring my previously written, captured and received pages from FSJ owners, former and current, to my FSJ site on wagoneers.com I haven't tested all the pages or images yet... if you see any "naughty" words in the file, please email me the URL... anything that starts with "O" followed by words beginning with an R or a .c would be considered unprintable offenses... ;) thanx for the submissions Eddie... we all miss Ol' White as well... BTW, I've got a 77 Wag for sale... ;) enjoy. john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:49:16 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Eddie's stories back on line!!! re: Tales of Ol' White have returned! oh, btw, try: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Eddie/ rofl... john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:06:10 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: looks like we may be back!!! looks like the lists may be back, please reply to me since I'm in digest mode... thanx richard! john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #882 *************************