From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Aug 23 20:59:54 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, August 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 997 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run? Re: fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run? fsj: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) fsj: re: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) fsj: RE: re: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) fsj: re: superdawg ill... fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale fsj: superdawg supper Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale fsj: Re: 86 Grand Wagoneer... 300 miles Re: [fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run?] fsj: Hootus FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:09:43 -0500 From: John Nutter Subject: fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run? I'm curious - or maybe demented... Would anyone else be interested in a Full Sized Jeep Rubicon run in the Summer of 2003 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the introduction of the Wagoneer and J-truck? I've just bought a '79 J-20 with a 360, T-18, and Dana 20. It's an ex-mud truck that's seen better days, but I've got three years to fix and build it - and if I'm going to have it Rubicon ready in that time I need to start soon. - -- John Nutter '85 CJ7 JeepWire.Com Editorial Staff http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/ Admin for Jeepoffroad Mailing List http://www.pclink.com/jnutter/jpor.htm President of Trailriders 4x4 club http://www.mntrailriders.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:09:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run? A: Won't everyone be at Ouray? (If the Comet 76p doesn't get us!) I know I'm gearing up for it! (I may not run too many trails, because I have to drive back to Seattle with mine!) John Nutter wrote: I'm curious - or maybe demented... Would anyone else be interested in a Full Sized Jeep Rubicon run in the Summer of 2003 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the introduction of the Wagoneer and J-truck? I've just bought a '79 J-20 with a 360, T-18, and Dana 20. It's an ex-mud truck that's seen better days, but I've got three years to fix and build it - and if I'm going to have it Rubicon ready in that time I need to start soon. - -- John Nutter '85 CJ7 JeepWire.Com Editorial Staff http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/ Admin for Jeepoffroad Mailing List http://www.pclink.com/jnutter/jpor.htm President of Trailriders 4x4 club http://www.mntrailriders.org/ ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) The rubicon been done before in FSJ's... :) (superken and rubiken, even have video footage to prove it... ;) We're having an FSJ gathering in August 2002 to commemorate the Full Size Jeep... Remember they launched it in November 1962. :) Not to say that we can't do something in 2003 as well. :) ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Nutter wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:06:44 -0500 > From: John Nutter > Organization: 4x4wire.com > To: JPOR > Subject: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? > Reply-to: jeepoffroad-at-jeepwire.com > > ****************Please Remember to snip your replies*************** > I'm curious - or maybe demented... > > Would anyone else be interested in a Full Sized Jeep Rubicon run in the > Summer of 2003 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the introduction > of the Wagoneer and J-truck? > > -- > John Nutter '85 CJ7 > JeepWire.Com Editorial Staff > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/ > > Admin for Jeepoffroad Mailing List > http://www.pclink.com/jnutter/jpor.htm > > President of Trailriders 4x4 club > http://www.mntrailriders.org/ > ******************************************************************* > Link to Archive, Mission Statement, Rules, Subscribe and > Unsubscribe instructions are available at: > http://www.pclink.com/jnutter/JPOR.htm > ====================================================================================== To subscribe to a list on digest.net, EMAIL majordomo-at-digest.net, no subject needed, in the body: subscribe [ fsj | xj | diesel-benz ] end (note: select only one of the options in the brackets) You will need to reply to an authentication message. 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(fwd) Is there a web page for this Ouray event? What trails are planned? Nutter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:16:17 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: re: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) Here is a link to the official 2002 FSJ page. http://cfsja.org/2002/ *==========================================* * JC Jones * * 76 Wagoneer (Road Warrior) * * 84 Grand Wagoneer (Eeyore) * * http://www.wagoneer.net * *==========================================* > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > jnutter-at-pclink.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 7:33 AM > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: re: Fwd: JPOR: 2003 FSJ rubicon run? (fwd) > > > Is there a web page for this Ouray event? What trails are planned? > > > Nutter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:17:33 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: re: superdawg ill... Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:08:50 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [Re: [fsj: superdawg ill...]] Mine was the brain. One Ford ignition upgrade and module later.... - - Landon '89 GW = running ============================== At 05:02 PM 8/21/00 MDT, Michael Shimniok wrote: >john wrote: >> I think you are RIGHT. But the problem isn't exactly with > >Yay. Well, I was ALMOST right. :D well, technically you were in the correct area... :) seems that lots of mechanics out there will think they would have fixed the problem by replacing the brain... of course in changing the module they would have altered/cleaned the contacts and it WOULD have worked. :) Just like the folks that had a bad brain... when it was really the wire on the connector... >Impedance. Of course! They corrosion probably made them act like >capacitors. Thought I'd never use that blasted EE stuff again... the world is analog... the EE stuff will always be there... :) john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:19:35 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale Oooh, how tough to go from TF-727 to a 4 spd manual in a GW ? - - Landon - ----------------------------------------- From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: For Sale: T18 4 speed + in TX This is an ad I just stumbled across. ___________ Jeep parts: T-18 Transmission with Scout 300 transfer case and bellhousing - fits 4.0L & 256 6 Cyl, 304, 360 & 401 Jeep engines. Transmission recently rebuilt. Tough and ready! All for $1,350. Dallas, Texas, 972-393-7595 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:25:15 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: fsj: superdawg supper The thought of dropping a nice fuel injected V8 in this guppy comes to mind whenever he hiccups. :) First I have to find a nice clean 300SD for commuting. :) There's got to be a better intake situation than a single two bbl carb. I suggest two webers, independent manifolds, downdraft for driveability/price. Seems with all the Jeep I-6s out there, a better solution like this would have a big market. - - Landon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale A: First you need the pedals, and flywheel, then driveshafts and front axle (D300 is passenger's side drop, but you could go NP208 with the right sleeve, and not change the front axle. NP229 will not last long behind a standard in 4 wheel mode, due to shock loads on the VC) Landon Tesar wrote: Oooh, how tough to go from TF-727 to a 4 spd manual in a GW ? - - Landon - ----------------------------------------- From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) Subject: fsj: For Sale: T18 4 speed + in TX This is an ad I just stumbled across. ___________ Jeep parts: T-18 Transmission with Scout 300 transfer case and bellhousing - fits 4.0L & 256 6 Cyl, 304, 360 & 401 Jeep engines. Transmission recently rebuilt. Tough and ready! All for $1,350. Dallas, Texas, 972-393-7595 ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:00:28 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale What was the deal with the NP208 ? Full-time 4WD only, or no fully locked mode ? Getting a manual trans would be great, even if we have to give up dry pavement 4WD hi range. - - Landon - ---------------------------------------------- James Blair wrote: > A: First you need the pedals, and flywheel, then driveshafts and front > axle (D300 is passenger's side drop, but you could go NP208 with the > right sleeve, and not change the front axle. NP229 will not last long > behind a standard in 4 wheel mode, due to shock loads on the VC) > > Landon Tesar wrote: > Oooh, how tough to go from TF-727 to a 4 spd manual in a GW ? > - Landon > ----------------------------------------- > From: Carnuck2-at-webtv.net (jim blair) > Subject: fsj: For Sale: T18 4 speed + in TX > This is an ad I just stumbled across. > ___________ > Jeep parts: T-18 Transmission with Scout 300 transfer case and > bellhousing - fits 4.0L & 256 6 Cyl, 304, 360 & 401 Jeep engines. > Transmission recently rebuilt. Tough and ready! All for $1,350. Dallas, > Texas, 972-393-7595 > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 > http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: T18 and 300 TC for sale A: The NP208 can't drive on dry pavement in 4 hi. The xfercase is locked at all times, because it has no differential. As soon as you shift from 2hi, it's locked. You can run 2lo with the front hubs unlocked. (which is why I like the 208!) Landon Tesar wrote: What was the deal with the NP208 ? Full-time 4WD only, or no fully locked mode ? Getting a manual trans would be great, even if we have to give up dry pavement 4WD hi range. - - Landon - ---------------------------------------------- James Blair wrote: A: First you need the pedals, and flywheel, then driveshafts and front axle (D300 is passenger's side drop, but you could go NP208 with the right sleeve, and not change the front axle. NP229 will not last long behind a standard in 4 wheel mode, due to shock loads on the VC) Landon Tesar wrote: Oooh, how tough to go from TF-727 to a 4 spd manual in a GW ? - - Landon ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:00:51 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: 86 Grand Wagoneer... 300 miles he paid $20,000 for it... At 05:59 PM 8/23/00 -0000, mike-jenny-at-msn.com wrote: >It looks like the wagonmaster sold this one for 30k. I wonder what >he paid for it. > >--- In 1FSJ-at-egroups.com, john wrote: >> A 1986 Grand Wagoneer with only 300 miles has found me... >> >> However, five problems exist: >> >> 1) it's white with a maroon interior (my wife hates maroon >interiors) >> 2) it has the 360 V8 (I dislike the AMC 360) >> 3) the guy wants $15,000 to $20,000 for the rig (this is the REAL >problem) >> 4) it doesn't have a sunroof >> 5) the rig has been sitting in a garage since 1986 in Wyoming >> >> It has been run occassionaly, and it was up on blocks, not sure if >> they were under the axle or the frame... >> >> The guy is sending me pictures that I'll put up on my server. He's >> probably going to list the vehicle on Ebay. If it was closer >> to $10k in price I might have jumped on it... >> >> If you're a serious buyer in the $15k range, let me know and I'll >> put you in touch... If you're just a lookielou, then wait for the >> pictures like me and view 'em on my server. ;) >> >> later, >> john >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ >> http://www.wagoneers.com/think-about-this.html >> Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >> ------------------------------------------------------- > - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ jesus, don't leave life without him, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 00 16:05:17 MDT From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [fsj: FSJ 40th anniversary Rubicon Run?] You may be happy to hear we've been working on plans for a 40th anniversary FSJ celebration in Ouray since 1998 (conceived years before that). I've already got pre-registrations from OVER FIFTY PEOPLE two years ahead of time and that's not counting families! This is going to be BIG and FUN! In fact, 10-15 rigs from CO, CA, AL, and NM are doing another recon mission THIS Labor Day weekend (come join us)! http://www.cfsja.org/2002/ Advantages of Ouray: - - DOZENS of trails in a range of difficulty levels - - Incredible alpine scenery accessible to all rigs - - Lots of other activities and attractions besides wheelin' - - Centrally located in the US Michael PS: 2002 because we're celebrating Fall 1962 announcement. John Nutter wrote: > I'm curious - or maybe demented... > > Would anyone else be interested in a Full Sized Jeep Rubicon run in the > Summer of 2003 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the introduction > of the Wagoneer and J-truck? > > I've just bought a '79 J-20 with a 360, T-18, and Dana 20. It's an > ex-mud truck that's seen better days, but I've got three years to fix > and build it - and if I'm going to have it Rubicon ready in that time I > need to start soon. > > -- > John Nutter '85 CJ7 > JeepWire.Com Editorial Staff > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/ > > Admin for Jeepoffroad Mailing List > http://www.pclink.com/jnutter/jpor.htm > > President of Trailriders 4x4 club > http://www.mntrailriders.org/ - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:33:14 -0500 From: "TLynn" Subject: fsj: Hootus This is the funniest thread I have ever read! Worth the time to go through it all! http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595&pagenumber =1 Tim Lynn "ToolMan-JeepBum" "It's a Jeep Thing" ICQ 21916084 75' J-10(in restoration-unnamed) 96' XJ(Skinny) 67' CJ-5(Crusty) 74' Wag(parts) 77' J-10(Bull-Dawg) 401/TH400, QT, 4" lift, MSD6T & billet dist., 32x11.5 AT's, tlynn-at-sheltonbbs.com

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