From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 2 11:57:11 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, May 2 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3722 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie RE: fsj: I'm a newbie fsj: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger Re: fsj: I'm a newbie Re: fsj: I'm a newbie fsj: Re: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger Re: fsj: I'm a newbie FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:50:32 -0300 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I love old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and the P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a > customer's > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie actually that was a MAZDA Diesel... had one... was quite happy around 55 mph... would give 30 mpg... try to go 70 mph and you'd have to hold it in gear and watch the mileage drop... :) it wasn't too bad overall... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around 45 hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a better light diesel. # # FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I think there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received in the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel design. # # - Landon # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim Blair # Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM # To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # Cc: local Jeep list # Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # # Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a customer's # '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie # > # > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International # > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the # Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified # > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. # > # > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. # > # > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would # shipping be? :) What transmission does # > it use? # > # > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: # > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > -- # > # > # > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > # > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" # > # till I get my hands on it. # > # # > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel # > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed # > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) # > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were # > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the # > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. # > # # > # Thank you for your fast answer. # > # # > # Ernesto. # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger it was a ranger, it was NOT a perkins, it was a MAZDA Diesel. Ford has a working relationship with Mazda, has since about '73... at one point they owned 25% of Mazda... mazda was hurting during the oil crisis of the early '70s because of the rotary engines... here's a picture of my '83 Ranger http://fotomeister.us/johns-cars/Diesel-Ranger.jpg this is the '86 Ranger I looked at... 99% certain it was a Mazda based on the transmission research I did... it wouldn't go into 5th gear easily... http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/ford/Ranger_Diesel_1986/ALL.html this was the turbo Diesel engine... my '83 was NA. The ONLY US Jeep vehicles that I've heard of that had a Perkins were some Mid-60's Jeep CJ-5's and CJ-6's. there may have been other vehicles, but those are the ones I've run across... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jim Blair wrote: # I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in early # Scouts too. # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > From: R16884-at-freescale.com # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 # > # > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around 45 # hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a # better light diesel. # > # > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to # turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a # drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I think # there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received in # the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel design. # > # > - Landon # > # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim # Blair # > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM # > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > Cc: local Jeep list # > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > # > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems # Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a customer's # > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't # much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > # > # > # > # > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 # > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie # > > # > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International # > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the # > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified # > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. # > > # > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. # > > # > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would # > shipping be? :) What transmission does # > > it use? # > > # > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: # > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > > # > > john # > > # > > ----- # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > -o|||||o- # > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > -- # > > # > > # > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > > # > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" # > > # till I get my hands on it. # > > # # > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel # > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed # > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) # > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were # > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the # > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. # > > # # > > # Thank you for your fast answer. # > > # # > > # Ernesto. # > > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:15:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie I can put pictures of your wagoneer on wagoneers.com... send them to me, not the list, directly at john-at-wagoneers.com max size 1024x768, 900x something is better. no spaces in the file names, descriptive names please, like Ernesto-64-wagoneer-01.jpg Ernesto-64-wagoneer-02.jpg etc. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I love # old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the # highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. # # Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small # tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and the # P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. # # Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. # # On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jim Blair wrote: # # > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems # > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a # > customer's # > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't # > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:39:26 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie >From 76 and up IH used the Nissan SD33. It is possible that early 60s may have used one, but I've never heard or read about such, but then again haven't looked at it very hard either. *** john at http://wagoneers.com *** - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:32:53 To: ; local Jeep list Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in early Scouts too. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > From: R16884-at-freescale.com > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 > > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around 45 hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a better light diesel. > > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I think there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received in the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel design. > > - Landon > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim Blair > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > Cc: local Jeep list > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a customer's > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > > > > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie > > > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. > > > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. > > > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would > shipping be? :) What transmission does > > it use? > > > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > > > john > > > > ----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -o|||||o- > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: > > > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" > > # till I get my hands on it. > > # > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. > > # > > # Thank you for your fast answer. > > # > > # Ernesto. > > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:45:06 +0000 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger It's possible the Mazda engine used a perkins design. If you read the allpar page on then they acquired a number of companies until catepillar bought them in 97. There seems to be a lot of cross-corporate involvement. Chrysler working with niSsan, renault, amc, mercedes and fiat. Lots of inbred ideas it seems. :). Would be nice to sort out facts from fiction/myth. Lots of misinformation out there on Diesels. *** john at http://wagoneers.com *** - -----Original Message----- From: Tesar Landon-R16884 Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:36:43 To: john; Jim Blair Cc: local Jeep list Subject: RE: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger Interesting, it seems a lot of people want to believe it is a Perkins....design? Fuel management? Wonder how the name got associated. Here's an example. http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Diesels.htm - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:14 PM To: Jim Blair Cc: Tesar Landon-R16884; local Jeep list Subject: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger it was a ranger, it was NOT a perkins, it was a MAZDA Diesel. Ford has a working relationship with Mazda, has since about '73... at one point they owned 25% of Mazda... mazda was hurting during the oil crisis of the early '70s because of the rotary engines... here's a picture of my '83 Ranger http://fotomeister.us/johns-cars/Diesel-Ranger.jpg this is the '86 Ranger I looked at... 99% certain it was a Mazda based on the transmission research I did... it wouldn't go into 5th gear easily... http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/ford/Ranger_Diesel_1986/ALL.html this was the turbo Diesel engine... my '83 was NA. The ONLY US Jeep vehicles that I've heard of that had a Perkins were some Mid-60's Jeep CJ-5's and CJ-6's. there may have been other vehicles, but those are the ones I've run across... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jim Blair wrote: # I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in early # Scouts too. # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > From: R16884-at-freescale.com # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 # > # > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around 45 # hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a # better light diesel. # > # > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to # turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a # drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I think # there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received in # the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel design. # > # > - Landon # > # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim # Blair # > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM # > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > Cc: local Jeep list # > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > # > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems # Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a customer's # > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't # much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > # > # > # > # > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 # > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie # > > # > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International # > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the # > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified # > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. # > > # > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. # > > # > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would # > shipping be? :) What transmission does # > > it use? # > > # > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: # > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > > # > > john # > > # > > ----- # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > -o|||||o- # > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > -- # > > # > > # > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > > # > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" # > > # till I get my hands on it. # > > # # > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel # > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed # > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) # > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were # > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the # > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. # > > # # > > # Thank you for your fast answer. # > > # # > > # Ernesto. # > > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:56:44 -0300 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie Hi John, thanks for the offering, I've published 4 pictures at http://www.flickr.cuse them if you like.om/photos/ernieuy/ you can publish them if you like. They are not the best ones, very few light, etc. Please give me some time to make better ones. Ernesto. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, john wrote: > I can put pictures of your wagoneer on wagoneers.com... > > send them to me, not the list, directly at john-at-wagoneers.com > > max size 1024x768, 900x something is better. no spaces in the file names, > descriptive names please, > like Ernesto-64-wagoneer-01.jpg Ernesto-64-wagoneer-02.jpg etc. > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: > > # Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I > love > # old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the > # highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. > # > # Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small > # tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and > the > # P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. > # > # Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. > # > # On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > # > # > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. > Seems > # > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. > # > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: > # > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a > # > customer's > # > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but > isn't > # > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! > # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html > # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited > # > > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3722 **************************