From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jul 18 16:27:14 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, July 18 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3748 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: leaf spring bushings Re: fsj: leaf spring bushings RE: fsj: leaf spring bushings fsj: 3 pass blast - round 2 fsj: transfer case fluid and driveshaft requirements FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:59:36 -0500 From: Kim Tesar Subject: fsj: leaf spring bushings Ok, need some enlightenment. I found that the lower shock bushings were missing, replaced those. Crawling around under the J10 last night, i found that the front spring eye bushings are gone as well. Then looked at the other shackle/leaf spring bushings, and they probably all need to be replaced. RockAuto has a selection from Moog, Raybestos, TRW, BJs has a kit, BJ's also has heavy duty shackles with slight lift that are attractive. What guidance can you give about Polyurethane vs rubber, and any brands that are recommended? If I don't get two piece bushings, does that mean the springs have to come off and the bushings pressed in? This note from ifsja.org helped me understand a little what we're looking at: http://www.ifsja.org/tech/suspension/bushings.html - - Landon 79 J10 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:56:54 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: leaf spring bushings Avoid polyurethane, squeaks and vibrates. __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Kim Tesar Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:59:36 To: local Jeep list Reply-To: Kim Tesar Subject: fsj: leaf spring bushings Ok, need some enlightenment. I found that the lower shock bushings were missing, replaced those. Crawling around under the J10 last night, i found that the front spring eye bushings are gone as well. Then looked at the other shackle/leaf spring bushings, and they probably all need to be replaced. RockAuto has a selection from Moog, Raybestos, TRW, BJs has a kit, BJ's also has heavy duty shackles with slight lift that are attractive. What guidance can you give about Polyurethane vs rubber, and any brands that are recommended? If I don't get two piece bushings, does that mean the springs have to come off and the bushings pressed in? This note from ifsja.org helped me understand a little what we're looking at: http://www.ifsja.org/tech/suspension/bushings.html - - Landon 79 J10 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:46:12 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: leaf spring bushings Graphite synthetic blend grease on the poly bushings seems to help a lot with noises. It's much stiffer. Are your springs sagging? New spring packs come with bushings. Or you could buy just new main leafs and cut the eyes off the old one and relegate it to #2 spring in the pack. That way you cure 2 issues at the same time. > Subject: Re: fsj: leaf spring bushings > To: ltesar3421-at-sbcglobal.net; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:56:54 +0000 > > Avoid polyurethane, squeaks and vibrates. > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Tesar > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:59:36 > To: local Jeep list > Reply-To: Kim Tesar Subject: fsj: leaf spring bushings > > Ok, > need some enlightenment. I found that the lower shock bushings were > missing, replaced those. Crawling around under the J10 last night, i > found that the front spring eye bushings are gone as well. Then > looked at the other shackle/leaf spring bushings, and they probably > all need to be replaced. > RockAuto has a selection from Moog, Raybestos, TRW, BJs has a kit, > BJ's also has heavy duty shackles with slight lift that are attractive. > What guidance can you give about Polyurethane vs rubber, and any > brands that are recommended? If I don't get two piece bushings, does > that mean the springs have to come off and the bushings pressed in? > This note from ifsja.org helped me understand a little what we're > looking at: http://www.ifsja.org/tech/suspension/bushings.html > > - Landon > 79 J10 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: 3 pass blast - round 2 decided to chase sunshine today... repeated the 3 pass blast that we did last year, take I-90 over Snoqualmie Pass, then visit Thorp/Ellensburg, grab US 97 heading north over Blewitt Pass, then hit US 2 - get a schnitzel in Leavenworth, then head up Tumwater Canyon and then up over Stevens Pass and down to home... basically sea level to around 3500 feet and back down, just over 230 mile loop... last year with the stock 10mm pump in my TDI we got 52 mpg... this year it has an 11mm pump, wrong part, but produces 20% more power... and as a result only got 43.5 mpg... weather was nice until we got back to the green side, but was able to hike around Deception Falls without getting rained on. :) http://fotomeister.us/2011/07-Jul-17-3passBlast-DeceptionFalls/ALL.html ready to go again... it's a great drive... and "only" 43.5 mpg isn't that bad... best I've done in my Mercedes Diesel was 39.75, in a Diesel Jeep about 32 mpg... these VW TDIs are really nice... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: transfer case fluid and driveshaft requirements It depends on your transfer case on whether you could pull that front driveshaft. NO MATTER WHICH ONE IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA... You likely have an NP228 or NP229 and if you were to pull that front driveshaft and 4wheel drive is engaged that will be the end of forward movement and very likely the end of your transfer case... well, just the expensive internal differential/coupler part... don't do it. All aluminum transfer cases take ATF - I recommend Amsoil Synthetic ATF - it's universal. http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/ - appreciate the business if you decide to go with Amsoil. If, in the unlikely event that you have an NP208, there's no point to removing the front driveshaft because you'd have hubs. :) It also takes ATF. The NP228/229 are selectrac tranfer cases - part time/ full time units... the 228 has a differential coupler (supposedly) and the 229 has a viscous coupler - neither would like you operating them without that driveshaft in place. :) there is also an NP219 - used 80-82 - it's a full time unit - always on... decent units... biggest danger to these transfer cases is ignorance of mechanics who think they use gear lube... not a big deal in an NP208, but death to the coupler in a 219/228/229. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Claude Cohen wrote: # # Hi John, # # claude again, # # i have en other question, i am planing in changing the tranfer case fluid , which type should i use on my GW 90 for the transfer case oil replacement ? # # Also i really do not use the 4x4 , and i am planing to remove the front drive shaft, any recommendation about that, is it good or bad , will it be a problem down the road with the transfer case differential ? # # thnx # # Claude # # > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:57:37 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: ccohen1-at-hotmail.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: Info replacement turn/cruise switch 90 wagoneer # > # > when you say '90 wagoneer... are you talking Grand Wagoneer, or the XJ? there is a difference. # > the details on column repair should work for both... # > # > # > for the Grand Wagoneer, the details on the tilt repair will get you close, you'd have to pull # > the wiring harness out of the column after disconnecting below, fishing the connector through # > won't be easy, but should work. # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Tilt-Column-Repair/steering-column.html # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Tilt-Column-Repair/ # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Tilt-Column-Repair/all-pix.html # > # > # > will share this with the XJ and FSJ list in case there is another site that has info. # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Claude Cohen wrote: # > # > # # > # Hello John # > # # > # after searching for a while on you website i was not able to find any info on how to replace the turn signal/ cruise switch on my wagoneer 90 # > # # > # Is there a page on your site dedicated to it ? or do you know where i could find the full procedure for the replacement of this switch online ? # > # # > # Thnx # > # # > # Claude # > # # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3748 **************************