From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Nov 1 17:04:00 2011 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:04:09 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3821 fsj-digest Wednesday, November 2 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3821 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame Re: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame RE: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame fsj: Re: PROBLEM SOLVED - OT: XP laptop or upgrade smart phone fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Re: xj: Re: [db] a mercedes Diesel XJ, some assembly required? fsj: Re: xj: Re: [db] a mercedes Diesel XJ, some assembly required? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:16:11 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame I think Ken did that with his Wagoneer with a '68 body? Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > From: jsterling-at-sterlingnetworks.net > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:03:05 -0700 > Subject: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame > > Hey everyone, > > Quick question. I have a possible lead on a 71 J10 and I am thinking about > putting the cab (assuming it's in solid shape) onto my 80 frame/running gear. > Does anyone know if the body mounts line up? Maybe not all 4 but maybe 2? I > could always move a few if I had to. If it will work, I will then be selling > my 1980 Cab (great shape) with the roll cage. Moving to a 71 cab/vin would get > me away from the smog checks. Also the back fees on the truck in Calif are > about $1000. So if I sold the cab I would suggest that someone out of state > buy it. I do have title to the 80 cab. > > Thanks! > > [cid:image001.jpg-at-01CC9808.1A07A250] > Jim Sterling > jsterling-at-sterlingnetworks.net > 805-579-8998 > Founding Partner SMBTN > www.smbtn.org > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame I have a spreadsheet somewhere that sorts that out... I think it'll be ok... most of the frame changes affected the wagoneers more... you have six mount points on the cab... two front by the rad support two at the part of the frame that widens out, in front of the cab. two at the back of the cab (easily moved and rewelded if needed) do you have access to the 71 frame? if you have time I've got shop manuals that list / diagram both years... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, James D. Sterling wrote: # Hey everyone, # # Quick question. I have a possible lead on a 71 J10 and I am thinking about # putting the cab (assuming it's in solid shape) onto my 80 frame/running gear. # Does anyone know if the body mounts line up? Maybe not all 4 but maybe 2? I # could always move a few if I had to. If it will work, I will then be selling # my 1980 Cab (great shape) with the roll cage. Moving to a 71 cab/vin would get # me away from the smog checks. Also the back fees on the truck in Calif are # about $1000. So if I sold the cab I would suggest that someone out of state # buy it. I do have title to the 80 cab. # # Thanks! # # [cid:image001.jpg-at-01CC9808.1A07A250] # Jim Sterling # jsterling-at-sterlingnetworks.net # 805-579-8998 # Founding Partner SMBTN # www.smbtn.org # # [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame you mean super ken? I have pictures of super ken's buildup from the late '90s at his parents house, should be on line.... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Jim Blair wrote: # I think Ken did that with his Wagoneer with a '68 body? # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # > From: jsterling-at-sterlingnetworks.net # > To: fsj-at-digest.net # > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:03:05 -0700 # > Subject: fsj: 71 Cab on 80 Frame # > # > Hey everyone, # > # > Quick question. I have a possible lead on a 71 J10 and I am thinking about # > putting the cab (assuming it's in solid shape) onto my 80 frame/running # gear. # > Does anyone know if the body mounts line up? Maybe not all 4 but maybe 2? I # > could always move a few if I had to. If it will work, I will then be # selling # > my 1980 Cab (great shape) with the roll cage. Moving to a 71 cab/vin would # get # > me away from the smog checks. Also the back fees on the truck in Calif are # > about $1000. So if I sold the cab I would suggest that someone out of state # > buy it. I do have title to the 80 cab. # > # > Thanks! # > # > [cid:image001.jpg-at-01CC9808.1A07A250] # > Jim Sterling # > jsterling-at-sterlingnetworks.net # > 805-579-8998 # > Founding Partner SMBTN # > www.smbtn.org # > # > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of # image001.jpg] # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: PROBLEM SOLVED - OT: XP laptop or upgrade smart phone update: Problem solved... serendipity solution even... loaded XP mode - nice interface, will make more use of it... but no happiness on syncing with USb. all good... going to move all my digital photography over there... (depending on memory issues) I had started shopping - found some good deals, advice was ThinkPad T-60/61, found 12 on CL... was trying to open a browser on the dell studio xps 1340 and realized that wireless was off (turned it off earlier) and in getting connected to the web, saw a symbol I recognized... bluetooth... hmmmmm... guess what? my palm centro has now sync'ed 11 of 12 items so far via BLUETOOTH... I couldn't find bluetooth on the laptop before, likely because wireless was off... so, looks like I'm not shopping for a replacement, will keep this system and tweak my XP mode environment, very cool... also going to take a friend's offer to salvage a couple old Dells - will give one to my son because his D510 that I got in grad school died, and will keep one for me for mobile use as it's lighter than this dell xps1340. will be handy for field work... I'm pretty happy... don't have to spend money I don't have, or try to sell something that I know is worth a nice chunk of change, but wouldn't likely get the value by selling it... and I got a couple of scrap computers to build up for me and my son. :) AS ALWAYS THANK YOU ALL for the OT assist!!! you folks rock. Also got to interact with a couple local listers! a good day on the list... :) thanx, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:03 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: [db] a mercedes Diesel XJ, some assembly required? I want to do this to an XJ, WJ or TJ... I'm doing something similar to my '83 J10 stepside, using an SD33T/tf727/np208 mostly out of an '86 CJ-10A... koch engineering has kits to do this in a YJ, not that much difference for an XJ... biggest challenge is the oil pan, they sell one... would like to know how they mated to an AW4, that would be my preference! john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Travis Barnard wrote: # That is exactly what I want to do with my 98' xj # # I just need to find a place to work. # # # # On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Stephen Rigley wrote: # # > Would love to see more engine bay photos of this... # > # > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:02 PM, john wrote: # > # > > 3 day drive away... :( # > > # > > # > > # > > ----- # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > # > > # > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, davidb wrote: # > > # > > # Not quite a WJ but check this diesel powered Jeep out # > > # http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/2670673869.html # > > # # > > # They are out there! Maybe I will find a WJ or large Jeep already # > > converted! ;-) # > > # # > > # --- In WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com, john wrote: # > > # > # > > # > then you should consider a Mercedes Diesel... :) # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > ----- # > > # > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # > > # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # > > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # > > # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM # > http://fotomeister.us # > > # > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, dave wrote: # > > # > # > > # > # Give me a good solid bullet-proof engine over one that might have # > > issues if # > > # > # abused with short drives or using it to brake going downhill with # > > a slight # > > # > # load. I live in the city and really only do short drives. # > > # > # # > > # > # I had considered buying a WJ with a bad 4.7l and rebuilding it, # > > but the 4.0l # > > # > # came along. # > > # > # # > > # > # But I am not into "power" as much as I am longevity, reliability # > > and low # > > # > # maintenance. ;-) # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # The XJ with the 4.0l and AW4 are FAST and powerful vehicles if # > > those are # > > # > # some of the characteristics that you want. # > > # > # # > > # > # I think the XJ will be what you want for that 14 year old. ;-) # > > # > # # > > # > # later, # > > # > # dave AKA vwdoc1 # > > # > # 1999 WJ Laredo 4.0l 42RE 242J # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # _____ # > > # > # # > > # > # From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] # > > On Behalf # > > # > # Of john # > > # > # Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:12 PM # > > # > # # > > # > # I love the 4.7, way more than the 4.0...good ones are out # > there... # > > # > # # > > # > # and boy do those things spin up fast... 21mpg on the freeway with # > > amsoil. # > > # > # # > > # > # ----- # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------- # > > # > # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # > > # > # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # > > # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # > > # > # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM # > http://fotomeister.us # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------- # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # # > > # > # > > # # > > # # > > # # > > # # > > # ------------------------------------ # > > # # > > # Yahoo! Groups Links # > > # # > > # <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: # > > # http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WJ-Grand/ # > > # # > > # <*> Your email settings: # > > # Individual Email | Traditional # > > # # > > # <*> To change settings online go to: # > > # http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WJ-Grand/join # > > # (Yahoo! ID required) # > > # # > > # <*> To change settings via email: # > > # WJ-Grand-digest-at-yahoogroups.com # > > # WJ-Grand-fullfeatured-at-yahoogroups.com # > > # # > > # <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: # > > # WJ-Grand-unsubscribe-at-yahoogroups.com # > > # # > > # <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: # > > # http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ # > > # # > > # # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:03:50 +0000 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: [db] a mercedes Diesel XJ, some assembly required? I contacted them (koch) about the aw4 a few months ago, they didn't know much about it but have started a project with the smaller 32re or whatever came in a wrangler. That adapter may work for the aw4. Anyone able to contact the guy with the xj to find out how it was mated? __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Travis Barnard Sender: owner-xj-at-digest.net Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:58:49 To: Reply-To: xj-at-digest.netCc: cj-10 list; ; diesel-benz list; full size jeep list Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] a mercedes Diesel XJ, some assembly required? I tried sending koch industries an email asking how they mate up to the aw4 and have not received a response. My guess would be that it works just fine since I have been seeing more and more of this particular combination on the internet. On Nov 1, 2011 3:33 PM, "john" wrote: > I want to do this to an XJ, WJ or TJ... > > I'm doing something similar to my '83 J10 stepside, using an > SD33T/tf727/np208 > mostly out of an '86 CJ-10A... > > koch engineering has kits to do this in a YJ, not that much difference for > an XJ... > biggest challenge is the oil pan, they sell one... > > would like to know how they mated to an AW4, that would be my preference! > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Travis Barnard wrote: > > # That is exactly what I want to do with my 98' xj > # > # I just need to find a place to work. > # > # > # > # On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Stephen Rigley > wrote: > # > # > Would love to see more engine bay photos of this... > # > > # > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:02 PM, john wrote: > # > > # > > 3 day drive away... :( > # > > > # > > > # > > > # > > ----- > # > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > # > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > http://fotomeister.us > # > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > > # > > > # > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, davidb wrote: > # > > > # > > # Not quite a WJ but check this diesel powered Jeep out > # > > # http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/2670673869.html > # > > # > # > > # They are out there! Maybe I will find a WJ or large Jeep already > # > > converted! ;-) > # > > # > # > > # --- In WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com, john wrote: > # > > # > > # > > # > then you should consider a Mercedes Diesel... :) > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > # > > # > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > > # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they > mold > # > > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > > # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > # > http://fotomeister.us > # > > # > > # > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, dave wrote: > # > > # > > # > > # > # Give me a good solid bullet-proof engine over one that > might have > # > > issues if > # > > # > # abused with short drives or using it to brake going > downhill with > # > > a slight > # > > # > # load. I live in the city and really only do short drives. > # > > # > # > # > > # > # I had considered buying a WJ with a bad 4.7l and rebuilding > it, > # > > but the 4.0l > # > > # > # came along. > # > > # > # > # > > # > # But I am not into "power" as much as I am longevity, > reliability > # > > and low > # > > # > # maintenance. ;-) > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # The XJ with the 4.0l and AW4 are FAST and powerful vehicles > if > # > > those are > # > > # > # some of the characteristics that you want. > # > > # > # > # > > # > # I think the XJ will be what you want for that 14 year old. > ;-) > # > > # > # > # > > # > # later, > # > > # > # dave AKA vwdoc1 > # > > # > # 1999 WJ Laredo 4.0l 42RE 242J > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # _____ > # > > # > # > # > > # > # From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto: > WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] > # > > On Behalf > # > > # > # Of john > # > > # > # Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:12 PM > # > > # > # > # > > # > # I love the 4.7, way more than the 4.0...good ones are out > # > there... > # > > # > # > # > > # > # and boy do those things spin up fast... 21mpg on the > freeway with > # > > amsoil. > # > > # > # > # > > # > # ----- > # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > > # > # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, > they mold > # > > # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > > # > # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > # > http://fotomeister.us > # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > # > # > > # > > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # ------------------------------------ > # > > # > # > > # Yahoo! 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