From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jan 9 17:06:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 01:06:01 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3836 fsj-digest Tuesday, January 10 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3836 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Re: fsj: 63' Wag front wheel disassembly FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:11:06 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy you haven't seen enough of MY creations then... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Terry Halmshaw wrote: # Never saw anything quite so horrid, the domain is open for anyone to use. # # look here http://www.trademarkia.com/whitco-72411940.html # # At 06:52 PM 9/01/2012, you wrote: # > this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.JPG # > # > is there anything like this available today? # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, dave wrote: # > # > # john, # > # # > # # > # I really want a fiberglass canopy but i don't ever remember seeing one # > for a jeep......you have seen one? Id love to find one. I sure can ask # > about the parts you want too, its worth a try for a better price. # > # What canvas top do you mean....are they generic, because if their not i # > doubt they would have one for a j10. My box is already rusty so i am kind # > of looking for a rust free box and tailgate for replacements. Look on # > craigslist Spokane / j10 and one is for sale out of Montana. # > # # > # # > # Dave # > # # > # ----- Original Message ----- # > # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> # > # Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:30:26 PM # > # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup # > # # > # My liftgate needs a new strut and it's showing signs of age, if you # > could ask how much for a new frame for the back glass, struts and the side # > window seals, maybe by both of ordering something we can get the prices # > down a bit. I'll snap some pictures and put them on my server so you can # > see what it looks like. # > # # > # You might consider a newer fiberglass style canopy. I think a # > canvas/convertible style cover would be much better. Taking the canopy on # > and off to load dirt/gravel/tall objects has caused most of the wear and # > tear. # > # # > # Having the bed covered helps keep the bed in good shape though. Less # > chance of rust. # > # # > # John # > # __john_at_ http :// wagoneers .com__ # > # # > # Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 06:29:04 +0000 ( UTC ) # > # To: # > # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup # > # # > # # > # John, # > # # > # # > # Thank you for taking the time to look for that info I really appreciaten # > the extra effort. I called and talked to the local Leer dealer and they # > will have to check if the factory still has the custom parts to put one # > together. They also said that it would be $1,000 to $1,200. A little more # > than I was hoping for but oh well its just money, right. # > # # > # # > # I was surfing the net and found your site and saw the J10 on your site # > and was reminded of your listing on CL. Not only did I get the information # > needed I got an email from someone famous. Cool, and again thank you for # > your help. # > # # > # # > # Dave # > # # > # ----- Original Message ----- # > # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> # > # Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:44:18 PM # > # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy # > # # > # All it says is Leer and Custom for Jeep. No other data plate that I've # > seen. # > # # > # > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus # > signature database 6777 (20120108) __________ # > # > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. # > # > http://www.eset.com # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:24:11 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy they don't list one for any J10s... comanches... http://www.truckcandy.com/TC/Softopper/Softopper.htm?gclid=COeH9Zu_wq0CFasaQgodlAmTAA guess we'd just have to figure out what the bed dimensions are and go with something close... $650 or so isn't too bad... would be nice if that thing also had the option of being a bed cover... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, dandbhansen-at-comcast.net wrote: # How about this one? # # http://www.truckcandy.com/TC/Softopper/Softopper.htm?gclid=COeH9Zu_wq0CFasaQgodlAmTAA # # # Dave # # # # # # To: "full size jeep list" , dandbhansen-at-comcast.net # Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:52:40 PM # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy # # this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: # # http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.JPG # # is there anything like this available today? # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, dave wrote: # # # john, # # # # # # I really want a fiberglass canopy but i don't ever remember seeing one for a jeep......you have seen one? Id love to find one. I sure can ask about the parts you want too, its worth a try for a better price. # # What canvas top do you mean....are they generic, because if their not i doubt they would have one for a j10. My box is already rusty so i am kind of looking for a rust free box and tailgate for replacements. Look on craigslist Spokane / j10 and one is for sale out of Montana. # # # # # # Dave # # # # ----- Original Message ----- # # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> # # Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:30:26 PM # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup # # # # My liftgate needs a new strut and it's showing signs of age, if you could ask how much for a new frame for the back glass, struts and the side window seals, maybe by both of ordering something we can get the prices down a bit. I'll snap some pictures and put them on my server so you can see what it looks like. # # # # You might consider a newer fiberglass style canopy. I think a canvas/convertible style cover would be much better. Taking the canopy on and off to load dirt/gravel/tall objects has caused most of the wear and tear. # # # # Having the bed covered helps keep the bed in good shape though. Less chance of rust. # # # # John # # __john_at_ http :// wagoneers .com__ # # # # Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 06:29:04 +0000 ( UTC ) # # To: # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup # # # # # # John, # # # # # # Thank you for taking the time to look for that info I really appreciaten the extra effort. I called and talked to the local Leer dealer and they will have to check if the factory still has the custom parts to put one together. They also said that it would be $1,000 to $1,200. A little more than I was hoping for but oh well its just money, right. # # # # # # I was surfing the net and found your site and saw the J10 on your site and was reminded of your listing on CL. Not only did I get the information needed I got an email from someone famous. Cool, and again thank you for your help. # # # # # # Dave # # # # ----- Original Message ----- # # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> # # Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:44:18 PM # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy # # # # All it says is Leer and Custom for Jeep. No other data plate that I've seen. # # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:08:01 -0600 From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:52, john wrote: > this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.J PG > is there anything like this available today? Wow, the ad has a picture of people riding in the back, and it says: "Full Passenger Visibility^E persons riding in the truck bed can see to the sides, front and rear ^E have plenty of head room." You won't see ads for THAT today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:43:46 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy It's srill legal here. - ------Original Message------ From: Dan Black To: J Cc: FSJ Cc: dandbhansen-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Sent: Jan 9, 2012 07:08 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:52, john wrote: > this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.JPG > is there anything like this available today? Wow, the ad has a picture of people riding in the back, and it says: "Full Passenger Visibility^E persons riding in the truck bed can see to the sides, front and rear ^E have plenty of head room." You won't see ads for THAT today! __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:59:07 -0600 From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy I think it's still legal here, too, but you have to be sitting down with your back against the front of the bed (back of the cab). And you still sure aren't going to see it advertised. Can you imagine the liability these days if you advertise something like that, and there's an accident, and bodies fly off in all directions? No seat belts available back there. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:43, john wrote: > It's srill legal here. > ------Original Message------ > From: Dan Black > To: J > Cc: FSJ > Cc: dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > Sent: Jan 9, 2012 07:08 > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:52, john wrote: >> this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: >> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.J PG >> is there anything like this available today? > > Wow, the ad has a picture of people riding in the back, and it says: > "Full Passenger Visibility^E persons riding in the truck bed can see to > the sides, front and rear ^E have plenty of head room." > > You won't see ads for THAT today! > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:05:42 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy I got a ticket for it in S Seattle and it's one of the few I lost in court. State law is all passengers must wear seatbelts except bus passengers. Even Taxi passengers must wear them now. Then I read this: http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/2008/09/19/is-it-legal-to-ride-in-the-ba ck-of-trucks-in-some-cases-yes/ Where is it legal for passengers to ride in this Ford truck? It depends, State Troopers say. (AP photo/P-I file) Q: Under what circumstances, if any, is it legal to ride in the back of a pickup truck? A: ^SIf all seatbelts are being utilized in the truck, then it^Rs legal for people to be in the back of the truck,^T State Patrol trooper Brandy Kessler said. ^SExcept children under 16 have to be in a restraint. ^SIt^Rs not recommended and we don^Rt announce that because it^Rs such a dangerous thing to do.^T State Patrol spokesman Curt Boyle points to RCW 46.61.688, a state law regarding safety belts. Section 2 is as follows: This section only applies to motor vehicles that meet the manual seat belt safety standards as set forth in federal motor vehicle safety standard 208 and to neighborhood electric vehicles and medium-speed electric vehicles. This section does not apply to a vehicle occupant for whom no safety belt is available when all designated seating positions as required by federal motor vehicle safety standard 208 are occupied. Sure it may be legal, troopers say. But just because it^Rs legal doesn^Rt make it a good idea. Want to read the manual seat belt safety standards as set forth in federal motor vehicle safety standard 208? Get ready for a long read and click here. RCW 46.61.687 deals with the requirement of child passenger restraints. So if you have a seat in the front with an unused belt and someone is riding in the back, the driver will get a ticket. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > To: dan-at-black.org > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:43:46 +0000 > > It's srill legal here. > ------Original Message------ > From: Dan Black > To: J > Cc: FSJ > Cc: dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > Sent: Jan 9, 2012 07:08 > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:52, john wrote: > > this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.JP G > > is there anything like this available today? > > Wow, the ad has a picture of people riding in the back, and it says: > "Full Passenger Visibility^E persons riding in the truck bed can see to > the sides, front and rear ^E have plenty of head room." > > You won't see ads for THAT today! > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:24:42 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy Actually, rear seats are available for some vehicles. When my wife bought her '99 Ranger we looked into buying one for it and the dealer still had them in the options book. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:59:07 -0600 > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > From: dan-at-black.org > To: fsj-at-digest.net > > I think it's still legal here, too, but you have to be sitting down > with your back against the front of the bed (back of the cab). And > you still sure aren't going to see it advertised. > > Can you imagine the liability these days if you advertise something > like that, and there's an accident, and bodies fly off in all > directions? No seat belts available back there. > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 09:43, john wrote: > > It's srill legal here. > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Dan Black > > To: J > > Cc: FSJ > > Cc: dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > > Sent: Jan 9, 2012 07:08 > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:52, john wrote: > >> this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: > >> > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.J > PG > >> is there anything like this available today? > > > > Wow, the ad has a picture of people riding in the back, and it says: > > "Full Passenger Visibility^E persons riding in the truck bed can see to > > the sides, front and rear ^E have plenty of head room." > > > > You won't see ads for THAT today! > > > > > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:29:36 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy The width is the biggest issue. 80's GM S10 beds are the closest, but still aren't quite right. I have a Toyota canopy on Blackie ('84 J10 7' bed) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 00:24:11 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > Subject: fsj: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > > they don't list one for any J10s... comanches... > http://www.truckcandy.com/TC/Softopper/Softopper.htm?gclid=COeH9Zu_wq0CFasaQg odlAmTAA > > guess we'd just have to figure out what the bed dimensions are and > go with something close... > > $650 or so isn't too bad... would be nice if that thing also had the option of being > a bed cover... > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, dandbhansen-at-comcast.net wrote: > > # How about this one? > # > # http://www.truckcandy.com/TC/Softopper/Softopper.htm?gclid=COeH9Zu_wq0CFasaQg odlAmTAA > # > # > # Dave > # > # > # > # > # > # To: "full size jeep list" , dandbhansen-at-comcast.net > # Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:52:40 PM > # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > # > # this is the cover I'd like to get... would solve a lot of problems: > # > # http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/JEEP-Brochures-FSJ/WHITCO-convertible-pick-up-top.JPG > # > # is there anything like this available today? > # > # john > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > # > # On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, dave wrote: > # > # # john, > # # > # # > # # I really want a fiberglass canopy but i don't ever remember seeing one for a jeep......you have seen one? Id love to find one. I sure can ask about the parts you want too, its worth a try for a better price. > # # What canvas top do you mean....are they generic, because if their not i doubt they would have one for a j10. My box is already rusty so i am kind of looking for a rust free box and tailgate for replacements. Look on craigslist Spokane / j10 and one is for sale out of Montana. > # # > # # > # # Dave > # # > # # ----- Original Message ----- > # # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> > # # Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:30:26 PM > # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup > # # > # # My liftgate needs a new strut and it's showing signs of age, if you could ask how much for a new frame for the back glass, struts and the side window seals, maybe by both of ordering something we can get the prices down a bit. I'll snap some pictures and put them on my server so you can see what it looks like. > # # > # # You might consider a newer fiberglass style canopy. I think a canvas/convertible style cover would be much better. Taking the canopy on and off to load dirt/gravel/tall objects has caused most of the wear and tear. > # # > # # Having the bed covered helps keep the bed in good shape though. Less chance of rust. > # # > # # John > # # __john_at_ http :// wagoneers .com__ > # # > # # Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 06:29:04 +0000 ( UTC ) > # # To: > # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup > # # > # # > # # John, > # # > # # > # # Thank you for taking the time to look for that info I really appreciaten the extra effort. I called and talked to the local Leer dealer and they will have to check if the factory still has the custom parts to put one together. They also said that it would be $1,000 to $1,200. A little more than I was hoping for but oh well its just money, right. > # # > # # > # # I was surfing the net and found your site and saw the J10 on your site and was reminded of your listing on CL. Not only did I get the information needed I got an email from someone famous. Cool, and again thank you for your help. > # # > # # > # # Dave > # # > # # ----- Original Message ----- > # # From: "john" < fullsizejeeps -at- gmail .com> > # # Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:44:18 PM > # # Subject: Re: Jeep J10 pickup canopy > # # > # # All it says is Leer and Custom for Jeep. No other data plate that I've seen. > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:05:43 -0200 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: Re: fsj: 63' Wag front wheel disassembly Star date 201201090.2301 Today I suffered 36 degrees, the hottest day of this summer, the forecast says tomorrow will be the same, these days I love winter.... Well, I dedicated a few hours to my 63 Wag today, I fully disassembly all the right hub, cleaned it up with gas (I believe I found a small piece of metal) and reassembled it with new grease, on the table. I didn't put it on the truck. It took me 2 hours of detailed metal file work and some other inventions to rebuild part of the cylindrical nut threads, deformed by the chisel work, mine and the past made by others. Tomorrow I'll go to a friend's shop and ask him to make a tool for me so I can leave the cold chisel apart and not continue to destroy the "fine" nut. It'll be a cylinder with 2 small bolt that will fit on the nut holes (not the screw's ones). I'll also try to find a used 53mm socket so I don't have to chisel the back big nut again, I don't think I'll success on this mission, I'll also find out how much a new one costs.... [?] As soon as I get all the tools or a better method of working out the hub (I'll call superman, batman or any other super hero) I'll disassembly the left side and check it in far less time. I'll fill a new report when I have news..... Ernie, out. On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Ernesto Silva wrote: > I finally did it, I took apart the 2 (really) small screws and with a cold > chisel I managed to unscrew the weird cylindrical nut and continued till I > took away the drum. > I can't imagine why someone designed a cylindrical nut, he must be nuts. I > think it's a very bad design to disassembly the drum so I can rebuild the > brakes, a part of the mechanics that needs frequent repair. > > Anyway, the right front brake is OK, I still have to disassembly the left > side, if that one is OK then I'll try the rear ones. I don't like those > either because of the drums fixed in the conical shafts, old and hard to > disassembly design too. > > Ohh, sorry, I didn't mentioned the brakes problem, well, there is a leak > somewhere, I must refill half of the main cylinder every 2 or 3 days, I > check it everyday I use the truck. The curious thing is that there are no > bubbles on the system, the pedal feels right. > > I'll report to you later.... > > Ernesto. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 33F.gif] ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3836 **************************