From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Jan 14 23:30:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:29:47 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3840 fsj-digest Sunday, January 15 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3840 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] lower control arm bushings QUESTION (fwd) fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools RE: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools RE: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:42:01 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] lower control arm bushings QUESTION (fwd) sharing, john Sorry - but as a Benz owner I just could not resist .... http://www.rubegoldberg.com/ Enjoy Edward :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools Bruce, we slid by your place around 3pm... was heading over to lynnwood mercedes to get parts... looked at that 1986 190D on the way... saw people on curbs, in ditches, in each other's trunks... creeping along... took us nearly 30 minutes to go from your turnoff on 196th to 99... We were going to take 99 up to 128th, staying on the main roads... but a bus was stuck up the hill from 164th... so I jogged over onto 164th... took a while, people were being overly cautious... dangerously so. most of the folks going down the hill into mill creek on 164th were mostly reasonable, once I got on the bothell-everett highway I could do the speed limit again... :) (we were in the jetta, no snow tires or anything like that...) trying to get home on 180th was interesting... coming down the first large hill by bear creek someone in a small suv type 4x4 stopped in the middle of her lane to put chains on... I was coming DOWN the hill slowly and someone just pulled out into my lane to go around the chain installer... I saw it all coming and was already in neutral, letting the ABS bring us to a complete halt and ready to go into reverse if needed... luckily the person made it around ok... and thankfully the guy in the big suv behind me waited for me at the top of the hill like I did for the person in front of me... I was driving for the people behind as much as in front... anyway, got to the bottom of the hill and it was a tangled mess.... anyway, made my way around on hilly backroads to get around the confusion on 180th... http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ALL.html saw two trucks in the ditch, one honda with a busted front wheel, clean off... and one rear end... and this wasn't even enough snow to get stuck in with a stock Jetta... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote: # Spent the afternoon hauling out the snow tires (on spare rims) and swapping them out on the W124. Wife had to get to a party tonight and work tomorrow morning. # # Used the jack and tire iron from the '74 W115 I got scrap parts off of a few months back. Worked great, although I think I need to check the right rear hardpoint, since it was really tight getting it in and out of there (other three points were fine). At least now the W124 has a jack and tire iron (realized sometime last year that it didn't). # # Only problem I had was that the tires were at zero or close to zero pressure from sitting around for almost a year. My wife and I spent a bit of time pumping them up with a bike pump (I always keep one in each car, along with the jack and spare fuel/oil filters). # # Then we made the mistake of going out to try to get to a frozen custard place down in the Ravenna area (we wanted to try the flavor of the day). Gave up after a few miles from all the fools on the road. The road was just fine, especially with the snow tires (and a Benz), but the others were all either paranoid-slow or slipping and sliding all over the place. Turned around and went home at the next exit. Sigh. Finished off the day with shoveling out the driveway, walks, and initial edge of the driveway/road so if things freeze up tonight, shouldn't be too much trouble getting in and out at least. # # -bkc # Lynnwood, WA # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:59:19 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools I played delivery boy at work today. Between Bothell and Kenmore I saw at least 20 accidents and people walking away from their cars when they couldn't make it up a little bump in the road. Surprised we didn't get a lot of snow chain buyers (we're one of the few stores that have any) I think the biggest problems are the store location (behind Thrasher's Corner pub so can't be seen from Bothell Everett hwy) and our phonebook address saying we're on Maltby rd instead of our intersection. Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:26 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: bkc-benzlist2-at-dreamfire.com > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools > > Bruce, > > we slid by your place around 3pm... was heading over to lynnwood mercedes > to get parts... looked at that 1986 190D on the way... > > saw people on curbs, in ditches, in each other's trunks... creeping along... > > took us nearly 30 minutes to go from your turnoff on 196th to 99... > > We were going to take 99 up to 128th, staying on the main roads... but a bus > was stuck up the hill from 164th... so I jogged over onto 164th... took > a while, people were being overly cautious... dangerously so. > > most of the folks going down the hill into mill creek on 164th were mostly > reasonable, once I got on the bothell-everett highway I could do the speed limit > again... :) (we were in the jetta, no snow tires or anything like that...) > > trying to get home on 180th was interesting... coming down the first large > hill by bear creek someone in a small suv type 4x4 stopped in the middle of > her lane to put chains on... I was coming DOWN the hill slowly and someone > just pulled out into my lane to go around the chain installer... I saw it > all coming and was already in neutral, letting the ABS bring us to a complete > halt and ready to go into reverse if needed... luckily the person made it > around ok... and thankfully the guy in the big suv behind me waited for > me at the top of the hill like I did for the person in front of me... I > was driving for the people behind as much as in front... > > anyway, got to the bottom of the hill and it was a tangled mess.... > > anyway, made my way around on hilly backroads to get around the > confusion on 180th... > > http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ > http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ALL.html > > saw two trucks in the ditch, one honda with a busted front wheel, clean off... > and one rear end... > > and this wasn't even enough snow to get stuck in with a stock Jetta... :) > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > # Spent the afternoon hauling out the snow tires (on spare rims) and swapping them out on the W124. Wife had to get to a party tonight and work tomorrow morning. > # > # Used the jack and tire iron from the '74 W115 I got scrap parts off of a few months back. Worked great, although I think I need to check the right rear hardpoint, since it was really tight getting it in and out of there (other three points were fine). At least now the W124 has a jack and tire iron (realized sometime last year that it didn't). > # > # Only problem I had was that the tires were at zero or close to zero pressure from sitting around for almost a year. My wife and I spent a bit of time pumping them up with a bike pump (I always keep one in each car, along with the jack and spare fuel/oil filters). > # > # Then we made the mistake of going out to try to get to a frozen custard place down in the Ravenna area (we wanted to try the flavor of the day). Gave up after a few miles from all the fools on the road. The road was just fine, especially with the snow tires (and a Benz), but the others were all either paranoid-slow or slipping and sliding all over the place. Turned around and went home at the next exit. Sigh. Finished off the day with shoveling out the driveway, walks, and initial edge of the driveway/road so if things freeze up tonight, shouldn't be too much trouble getting in and out at least. > # > # -bkc > # Lynnwood, WA > # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT > # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools yeah, people were going way too slow up hills... some too fast down, but not as bad as usual. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Jim Blair wrote: # I played delivery boy at work today. Between Bothell and Kenmore I saw at # least 20 accidents and people walking away from their cars when they couldn't # make it up a little bump in the road. Surprised we didn't get a lot of snow # chain buyers (we're one of the few stores that have any) I think the biggest # problems are the store location (behind Thrasher's Corner pub so can't be seen # from Bothell Everett hwy) and our phonebook address saying we're on Maltby rd # instead of our intersection. # # Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will # like them only Entangle and hold the poor and # weak, while the rich and powerful will easily # break through them # # ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) # # > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:26 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: bkc-benzlist2-at-dreamfire.com # > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] snow tires and fools # > # > Bruce, # > # > we slid by your place around 3pm... was heading over to lynnwood mercedes # > to get parts... looked at that 1986 190D on the way... # > # > saw people on curbs, in ditches, in each other's trunks... creeping # along... # > # > took us nearly 30 minutes to go from your turnoff on 196th to 99... # > # > We were going to take 99 up to 128th, staying on the main roads... but a # bus # > was stuck up the hill from 164th... so I jogged over onto 164th... took # > a while, people were being overly cautious... dangerously so. # > # > most of the folks going down the hill into mill creek on 164th were mostly # > reasonable, once I got on the bothell-everett highway I could do the speed # limit # > again... :) (we were in the jetta, no snow tires or anything like that...) # > # > trying to get home on 180th was interesting... coming down the first large # > hill by bear creek someone in a small suv type 4x4 stopped in the middle of # > her lane to put chains on... I was coming DOWN the hill slowly and someone # > just pulled out into my lane to go around the chain installer... I saw it # > all coming and was already in neutral, letting the ABS bring us to a # complete # > halt and ready to go into reverse if needed... luckily the person made it # > around ok... and thankfully the guy in the big suv behind me waited for # > me at the top of the hill like I did for the person in front of me... I # > was driving for the people behind as much as in front... # > # > anyway, got to the bottom of the hill and it was a tangled mess.... # > # > anyway, made my way around on hilly backroads to get around the # > confusion on 180th... # > # > http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ # > http://fotomeister.us/2012/01-Jan-14-adventures-on-snow/ALL.html # > # > saw two trucks in the ditch, one honda with a busted front wheel, clean # off... # > and one rear end... # > # > and this wasn't even enough snow to get stuck in with a stock Jetta... :) # > # > john # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote: # > # > # Spent the afternoon hauling out the snow tires (on spare rims) and # swapping them out on the W124. Wife had to get to a party tonight and work # tomorrow morning. # > # # > # Used the jack and tire iron from the '74 W115 I got scrap parts off of a # few months back. Worked great, although I think I need to check the right # rear hardpoint, since it was really tight getting it in and out of there # (other three points were fine). At least now the W124 has a jack and tire # iron (realized sometime last year that it didn't). # > # # > # Only problem I had was that the tires were at zero or close to zero # pressure from sitting around for almost a year. My wife and I spent a bit of # time pumping them up with a bike pump (I always keep one in each car, along # with the jack and spare fuel/oil filters). # > # # > # Then we made the mistake of going out to try to get to a frozen custard # place down in the Ravenna area (we wanted to try the flavor of the day). Gave # up after a few miles from all the fools on the road. The road was just fine, # especially with the snow tires (and a Benz), but the others were all either # paranoid-slow or slipping and sliding all over the place. Turned around and # went home at the next exit. Sigh. Finished off the day with shoveling out # the driveway, walks, and initial edge of the driveway/road so if things freeze # up tonight, shouldn't be too much trouble getting in and out at least. # > # # > # -bkc # > # Lynnwood, WA # > # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] # > # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT # > # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:15:04 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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