From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 21 15:44:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:44:14 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3896 fsj-digest Saturday, April 21 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3896 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. fsj: RE: back up lights J10. Re: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. fsj: John, for your book... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:57:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. I'm thinking that the regulator may be going on the alternator... it's tested fine, but still... if it is bad it'll drain the battery, and cause the lights to get brighter at higher rpm... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # This may not be too related but I found the splice for the instrument panel lights, wrapped in duct tape, perilously close to the steering column brace. # As Jim would say, 'gotta get after that' # # You may want to check that circuit for the backup lights, that nothing is using it for a ground, is it really isolated? Brighter when revving means the voltage is finding its way there from the alternator, not the battery. Might wanna check for chassis to frame grounds at various points (bed). Cut the wire just before the lights and see if the battery stops leaking. # # I added socket and bulbs to the aftermarket gauges the PO added last night. Still ugly and hard to read. # # - Landon # 79 J10 # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:24 PM # To: full size jeep list # Cc: T.Halmshaw # Subject: fsj: back up lights J10. # # I noticed that my backup lights were working last night... they did get brighter with more rpm... interesting... guess when I fixed the wiring harness I fixed the lights... # # cool... still draining the battery if connected... # # not sure if it's the wiring, my external resistor or the alternator... # # thinking of using zm jeeps new harness after all... need to relocate some pins... # # john # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold # buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] # Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) # -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:18:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. I ohmed it out... no short. didn't mention that before, and no spark when you touch the terminal with the ground... before I put the resistor in line with the sense lead it would spark a little... and also wouldn't shut off...;) the stock harness was pretty buggered up. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # You're right. And a voltmeter should show that it's all over the place....of course if you have a big short, that will be the cause, not the regulator trying to keep up. # # - L # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:58 PM # To: Tesar Landon-R16884 # Cc: full size jeep list; T.Halmshaw # Subject: RE: back up lights J10. # # I'm thinking that the regulator may be going on the alternator... # # it's tested fine, but still... if it is bad it'll drain the battery, and cause the lights to get brighter at higher rpm... # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold # buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] # Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) # -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # # # This may not be too related but I found the splice for the instrument panel lights, wrapped in duct tape, perilously close to the steering column brace. # # As Jim would say, 'gotta get after that' # # # # You may want to check that circuit for the backup lights, that nothing is using it for a ground, is it really isolated? Brighter when revving means the voltage is finding its way there from the alternator, not the battery. Might wanna check for chassis to frame grounds at various points (bed). Cut the wire just before the lights and see if the battery stops leaking. # # # # I added socket and bulbs to the aftermarket gauges the PO added last night. Still ugly and hard to read. # # # # - Landon # # 79 J10 # # # # -----Original Message----- # # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:24 PM # To: full size jeep list # Cc: T.Halmshaw # Subject: fsj: back up lights J10. # # # # I noticed that my backup lights were working last night... they did get brighter with more rpm... interesting... guess when I fixed the wiring harness I fixed the lights... # # # # cool... still draining the battery if connected... # # # # not sure if it's the wiring, my external resistor or the alternator... # # # # thinking of using zm jeeps new harness after all... need to relocate some pins... # # # # john # # # # # # ----- # # - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS # # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold # # buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # # - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] # # Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) # # - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:23:42 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. I can believe that. Working my way back with good grounds. Need to spend some quality time with good old #27. :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Michel Balea Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:22:28 To: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: back up lights J10. ground issue..... or grounding thru some ..... #-at-%^* poor socket.... Michel 74 wag without back up light since 198x.... and never bother to fix them.... they shoudl see me coming.... On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM, john wrote: > I'm thinking that the regulator may be going on the alternator... > > it's tested fine, but still... if it is bad it'll drain the battery, and > cause > the lights to get brighter at higher rpm... > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold > buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > b A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college > educationb > Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: > > # This may not be too related but I found the splice for the instrument > panel > lights, wrapped in duct tape, perilously close to the steering column > brace. > # As Jim would say, 'gotta get after that' > # > # You may want to check that circuit for the backup lights, that nothing > is > using it for a ground, is it really isolated? Brighter when revving means > the > voltage is finding its way there from the alternator, not the battery. > Might > wanna check for chassis to frame grounds at various points (bed). Cut the > wire just before the lights and see if the battery stops leaking. > # > # I added socket and bulbs to the aftermarket gauges the PO added last > night. > Still ugly and hard to read. > # > # - Landon > # 79 J10 > # > # -----Original Message----- > # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of > john > # Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:24 PM > # To: full size jeep list > # Cc: T.Halmshaw > # Subject: fsj: back up lights J10. > # > # I noticed that my backup lights were working last night... they did get > brighter with more rpm... interesting... guess when I fixed the wiring > harness > I fixed the lights... > # > # cool... still draining the battery if connected... > # > # not sure if it's the wiring, my external resistor or the alternator... > # > # thinking of using zm jeeps new harness after all... need to relocate > some > pins... > # > # john > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS > # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold > # buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # b A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college > educationb > # Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) > # > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:49:08 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: John, for your book... 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