From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed May 23 09:11:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:11:05 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3919 fsj-digest Wednesday, May 23 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3919 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Water transfer printing - Vehicle interior - YouTube fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:59:12 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Water transfer printing - Vehicle interior - YouTube - -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:20:50 -0300 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... .... but no more, I was able to use it for 2 days, grrrrr. After some work which started about 2 months ago I did the following: 1 - changed the starter motor solenoid because it did not connect the motor. 2 - took out the engine because 2 of the starter motor bolts where bad and I had to enlarge the holes and make new threads (no nuts, threads in the gears case). With the engine on a bench I: 3 - I rebuild the clutch and put a new bearing. 4 - I changed the first diesel pump gasket because of a leak. 5 - I changed the oil 6 - I changed the fan blades for a plastic ones, the old steel blades where seriously cracked 7 - I changed the oil meter, the iron tube to measure oil level got broke when I took out the engine. 8 - I got the main clutch cylinder rebuild, the same with the one on the clutch. 9 - I changed the hole clutch hydraulic circuit 10 - I changed the temperature meter, the old one got broke with the engine movement. So a bad solenoid got me repairing many things, but finally the truck was back on track... for 2 days, or less. The solenoid got stuck and the starter motor is ON all the time, luckily I installed a main battery switch 6 months ago so I can cut all current supply, that stopped the motor. Dammed Chinese manufacturers, the solenoid is from China, I didn't used it for more than 20 times, I knew it was not of good quality, but this is totally unacceptable. And of course, I can't get my money back (approx 50 dollars) because electrical pieces has no guaranty, at least in the shop where I bought it. So next step is to visit many shops till I find a new solenoid, NOT from China, the best one should be a Lucas from UK, the second made in Argentina. Another option is to try to buy a used one, but I can't know in which condition it will be. The engine is a 4.203 diesel Perkins from England, 1976. It starts great with a small battery, consumes some oil because of some worn but it really works fine. Ernesto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:30:24 -0700 From: Michel Balea Subject: Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Depending on how many wires yu have on the solenoid, yu may be able to use the one for the fsj gas version....60s, 70's and 80's version have all the possibilities, beside the 2 main wires, yu can have, 1, 2 or 3 auxiliary wires. Someone will chime in... Good job on the repairs. Michel On May 23, 2012, at 7:20, Ernesto Silva wrote: > .... but no more, I was able to use it for 2 days, grrrrr. > > After some work which started about 2 months ago I did the following: > > 1 - changed the starter motor solenoid because it did not connect the motor. > 2 - took out the engine because 2 of the starter motor bolts where bad and > I had to enlarge the holes and make new threads (no nuts, threads in the > gears case). > With the engine on a bench I: > 3 - I rebuild the clutch and put a new bearing. > 4 - I changed the first diesel pump gasket because of a leak. > 5 - I changed the oil > 6 - I changed the fan blades for a plastic ones, the old steel blades where > seriously cracked > 7 - I changed the oil meter, the iron tube to measure oil level got broke > when I took out the engine. > 8 - I got the main clutch cylinder rebuild, the same with the one on the > clutch. > 9 - I changed the hole clutch hydraulic circuit > 10 - I changed the temperature meter, the old one got broke with the engine > movement. > > So a bad solenoid got me repairing many things, but finally the truck was > back on track... for 2 days, or less. > > The solenoid got stuck and the starter motor is ON all the time, luckily I > installed a main battery switch 6 months ago so I can cut all current > supply, that stopped the motor. > > Dammed Chinese manufacturers, the solenoid is from China, I didn't used it > for more than 20 times, I knew it was not of good quality, but this is > totally unacceptable. And of course, I can't get my money back (approx 50 > dollars) because electrical pieces has no guaranty, at least in the shop > where I bought it. > > So next step is to visit many shops till I find a new solenoid, NOT from > China, the best one should be a Lucas from UK, the second made in > Argentina. Another option is to try to buy a used one, but I can't know in > which condition it will be. > > The engine is a 4.203 diesel Perkins from England, 1976. It starts great > with a small battery, consumes some oil because of some worn but it really > works fine. > > Ernesto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:28:46 -0300 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Thanks Michael, but in my country (Uruguay) there are only a handful of Wags, and the engine is from England, a Perkins. There are also Perkins factories in Brazil and Argentine. In Brazil the main products are engines for Massey Ferguson tractors. In Argentine they build general engines, that's the reason why I expect to buy a solenoid from that make. The original "Lucas" make from England is very rare on these days and these latitudes. Many thanks for your comments, Ernesto. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: > Depending on how many wires yu have on the solenoid, yu may be able to use > the one for the fsj gas version....60s, 70's and 80's version have all the > possibilities, beside the 2 main wires, yu can have, 1, 2 or 3 auxiliary > wires. > Someone will chime in... > Good job on the repairs. > Michel > > > > On May 23, 2012, at 7:20, Ernesto Silva wrote: > > > .... but no more, I was able to use it for 2 days, grrrrr. > > > > After some work which started about 2 months ago I did the following: > > > > 1 - changed the starter motor solenoid because it did not connect the > motor. > > 2 - took out the engine because 2 of the starter motor bolts where bad > and > > I had to enlarge the holes and make new threads (no nuts, threads in the > > gears case). > > With the engine on a bench I: > > 3 - I rebuild the clutch and put a new bearing. > > 4 - I changed the first diesel pump gasket because of a leak. > > 5 - I changed the oil > > 6 - I changed the fan blades for a plastic ones, the old steel blades > where > > seriously cracked > > 7 - I changed the oil meter, the iron tube to measure oil level got broke > > when I took out the engine. > > 8 - I got the main clutch cylinder rebuild, the same with the one on the > > clutch. > > 9 - I changed the hole clutch hydraulic circuit > > 10 - I changed the temperature meter, the old one got broke with the > engine > > movement. > > > > So a bad solenoid got me repairing many things, but finally the truck was > > back on track... for 2 days, or less. > > > > The solenoid got stuck and the starter motor is ON all the time, luckily > I > > installed a main battery switch 6 months ago so I can cut all current > > supply, that stopped the motor. > > > > Dammed Chinese manufacturers, the solenoid is from China, I didn't used > it > > for more than 20 times, I knew it was not of good quality, but this is > > totally unacceptable. And of course, I can't get my money back (approx 50 > > dollars) because electrical pieces has no guaranty, at least in the shop > > where I bought it. > > > > So next step is to visit many shops till I find a new solenoid, NOT from > > China, the best one should be a Lucas from UK, the second made in > > Argentina. Another option is to try to buy a used one, but I can't know > in > > which condition it will be. > > > > The engine is a 4.203 diesel Perkins from England, 1976. It starts great > > with a small battery, consumes some oil because of some worn but it > really > > works fine. > > > > Ernesto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:46:22 -0700 From: Michel Balea Subject: Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... You're welcome, always trying to find a part that may fit. Sometimes we go to the extreme ... one of my bike has so many parts from other bikes, that I need to keep track of which year and model it is built from, at least it is from the same brand. Lucas electrical are known for their 3 position system, off, dim, flicker. You might be able to find a solenoid, which is remote Heavy-Duty switch at at marine supply store. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=1654680&langId=-1&searchKeyword=solenoid+starter Cheers, Michel On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Ernesto Silva wrote: > Thanks Michael, but in my country (Uruguay) there are only a handful of > Wags, and the engine is from England, a Perkins. > There are also Perkins factories in Brazil and Argentine. In Brazil the > main products are engines for Massey Ferguson tractors. In Argentine they > build general engines, that's the reason why I expect to buy a solenoid > from that make. > The original "Lucas" make from England is very rare on these days and > these latitudes. > > Many thanks for your comments, > Ernesto. > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: > >> Depending on how many wires yu have on the solenoid, yu may be able to >> use the one for the fsj gas version....60s, 70's and 80's version have all >> the possibilities, beside the 2 main wires, yu can have, 1, 2 or 3 >> auxiliary wires. >> Someone will chime in... >> Good job on the repairs. >> Michel >> >> >> >> On May 23, 2012, at 7:20, Ernesto Silva wrote: >> >> > .... but no more, I was able to use it for 2 days, grrrrr. >> > >> > After some work which started about 2 months ago I did the following: >> > >> > 1 - changed the starter motor solenoid because it did not connect the >> motor. >> > 2 - took out the engine because 2 of the starter motor bolts where bad >> and >> > I had to enlarge the holes and make new threads (no nuts, threads in the >> > gears case). >> > With the engine on a bench I: >> > 3 - I rebuild the clutch and put a new bearing. >> > 4 - I changed the first diesel pump gasket because of a leak. >> > 5 - I changed the oil >> > 6 - I changed the fan blades for a plastic ones, the old steel blades >> where >> > seriously cracked >> > 7 - I changed the oil meter, the iron tube to measure oil level got >> broke >> > when I took out the engine. >> > 8 - I got the main clutch cylinder rebuild, the same with the one on the >> > clutch. >> > 9 - I changed the hole clutch hydraulic circuit >> > 10 - I changed the temperature meter, the old one got broke with the >> engine >> > movement. >> > >> > So a bad solenoid got me repairing many things, but finally the truck >> was >> > back on track... for 2 days, or less. >> > >> > The solenoid got stuck and the starter motor is ON all the time, >> luckily I >> > installed a main battery switch 6 months ago so I can cut all current >> > supply, that stopped the motor. >> > >> > Dammed Chinese manufacturers, the solenoid is from China, I didn't used >> it >> > for more than 20 times, I knew it was not of good quality, but this is >> > totally unacceptable. And of course, I can't get my money back (approx >> 50 >> > dollars) because electrical pieces has no guaranty, at least in the shop >> > where I bought it. >> > >> > So next step is to visit many shops till I find a new solenoid, NOT from >> > China, the best one should be a Lucas from UK, the second made in >> > Argentina. Another option is to try to buy a used one, but I can't >> know in >> > which condition it will be. >> > >> > The engine is a 4.203 diesel Perkins from England, 1976. It starts great >> > with a small battery, consumes some oil because of some worn but it >> really >> > works fine. >> > >> > Ernesto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:10:50 -0300 From: Ernesto Silva Subject: Re: fsj: My '63 Wag WAS back on track... Many thanks Michael, I'll try those links and see what I can get. Ernesto. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Michel Balea wrote: > You're welcome, always trying to find a part that may fit. Sometimes we go > to the extreme ... one of my bike has so many parts from other bikes, that > I need to keep track of which year and model it is built from, at least it > is from the same brand. > > Lucas electrical are known for their 3 position system, off, dim, flicker. > > You might be able to find a solenoid, which is remote Heavy-Duty switch at > at marine supply store. > > > http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=1654680&langId=-1&searchKeyword=solenoid+starter > > Cheers, > > Michel > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Ernesto Silva wrote: > >> Thanks Michael, but in my country (Uruguay) there are only a handful of >> Wags, and the engine is from England, a Perkins. >> There are also Perkins factories in Brazil and Argentine. In Brazil the >> main products are engines for Massey Ferguson tractors. In Argentine they >> build general engines, that's the reason why I expect to buy a solenoid >> from that make. >> The original "Lucas" make from England is very rare on these days and >> these latitudes. >> >> Many thanks for your comments, >> Ernesto. >> >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: >> >>> Depending on how many wires yu have on the solenoid, yu may be able to >>> use the one for the fsj gas version....60s, 70's and 80's version have all >>> the possibilities, beside the 2 main wires, yu can have, 1, 2 or 3 >>> auxiliary wires. >>> Someone will chime in... >>> Good job on the repairs. >>> Michel >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 23, 2012, at 7:20, Ernesto Silva wrote: >>> >>> > .... but no more, I was able to use it for 2 days, grrrrr. >>> > >>> > After some work which started about 2 months ago I did the following: >>> > >>> > 1 - changed the starter motor solenoid because it did not connect the >>> motor. >>> > 2 - took out the engine because 2 of the starter motor bolts where bad >>> and >>> > I had to enlarge the holes and make new threads (no nuts, threads in >>> the >>> > gears case). >>> > With the engine on a bench I: >>> > 3 - I rebuild the clutch and put a new bearing. >>> > 4 - I changed the first diesel pump gasket because of a leak. >>> > 5 - I changed the oil >>> > 6 - I changed the fan blades for a plastic ones, the old steel blades >>> where >>> > seriously cracked >>> > 7 - I changed the oil meter, the iron tube to measure oil level got >>> broke >>> > when I took out the engine. >>> > 8 - I got the main clutch cylinder rebuild, the same with the one on >>> the >>> > clutch. >>> > 9 - I changed the hole clutch hydraulic circuit >>> > 10 - I changed the temperature meter, the old one got broke with the >>> engine >>> > movement. >>> > >>> > So a bad solenoid got me repairing many things, but finally the truck >>> was >>> > back on track... for 2 days, or less. >>> > >>> > The solenoid got stuck and the starter motor is ON all the time, >>> luckily I >>> > installed a main battery switch 6 months ago so I can cut all current >>> > supply, that stopped the motor. >>> > >>> > Dammed Chinese manufacturers, the solenoid is from China, I didn't >>> used it >>> > for more than 20 times, I knew it was not of good quality, but this is >>> > totally unacceptable. And of course, I can't get my money back (approx >>> 50 >>> > dollars) because electrical pieces has no guaranty, at least in the >>> shop >>> > where I bought it. >>> > >>> > So next step is to visit many shops till I find a new solenoid, NOT >>> from >>> > China, the best one should be a Lucas from UK, the second made in >>> > Argentina. Another option is to try to buy a used one, but I can't >>> know in >>> > which condition it will be. >>> > >>> > The engine is a 4.203 diesel Perkins from England, 1976. It starts >>> great >>> > with a small battery, consumes some oil because of some worn but it >>> really >>> > works fine. >>> > >>> > Ernesto ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3919 **************************