From owner-fsj-digest@digest.net Mon Oct 1 15:23:00 2012 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest@digest.net Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:22:50 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #3978 fsj-digest Monday, October 1 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3978 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: day of wrenching... fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Re: custom SJ RE: fsj: day of wrenching... fsj: FSJs Re: fsj: FSJs FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: day of wrenching... > To: michelbalea@gmail.com; fsj@digest.net > From: john@wagoneers.com > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:53:43 +0000 > > I've done one of the vent windows as well. The 2nd one I took to a glass shop and paid them to do that and the windshield at the same time. Pix on line. > > I figured out the vent on the pass side. Used a couple of pry bars to pull it, the PO didn't realize there was supposed to be a drain and sealed it. I pulled enough stuff out of there to start a small garden. :) > > I tested both sides with the hose, the driver's side has a little bit of restriction, but drains, so I may come up from the bottom and try to clean it that way. > > The water pump lower rad hose has a slightly different angle and length. My hose is weeping a little. Had just enough metal under the first clamp to add one more. Got both as tight as I could. I should use a driver and ratchet to get it the rest of the way. > > Put my black jeep letters on the tailgate and swapped the rotor and cap. > > Next project is to rewire the cab, fix the dome light, glove box and reinstall the stereo. Then when my son has time we'll swap in the 3.31 axles I bought from jim blair. > > I'm hurting today. Getting too old for contorted wrenching jobs. :). Spent about 9 hours tearing it all apart and putting it back with a break to check out my friend's benz and chase parts. > > Pix here: > http://fotomeister.us/2012/09-Sep-29-J10-waterPump/ > > I will upload the final shots of the inside of the vent and letters and make an ALL.html page. > > Also, the car show... > http://fotomeister.us/2012/ look for the latest directories. > > John > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > > ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:15:04 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:11:30 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: custom SJ while i don't *like* it, i hear ya. 1st thing i noticed was the square headlight in a razor grill. huh! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Black" To: "Full Size Jeeps" Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:55 PM Subject: fsj: custom SJ > I'm sure a lot of you won't like this, because it's essentially been > converted to a street rod, but there's a lot of cool custom work in > this. Paint, lowered, cropped top, 'vette engine, etc. Obviously NOT > built for off-road use. It's not really my style, but I still admire > the work. Somebody had a lot of fun making this into the vehicle they > wanted -- something unique. > > http://item.ebay.com/271071325231 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: day of wrenching... we just need to call you Grizzly Blair... ;) so does this mean you can come over and help me swap the axles on my J10 then? My we can time swap and I'll help you haul something off... with my regeared J10... ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTB&TRSTGZS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 30 Sep 2012, Jim Blair wrote: # # Wuss! I was out wrenching with a broken shoulder (just had surgery wednesday and I've cut back to only ibuprofen for pain/swelling already) and a torn labial tendon in my left hip. We partially emptied my fifth wheel (Brandon had to carry the boxes that were too heavy for my one good arm) While he and Thom (my neighbor) were working on the waterline trench for the well (that I dug with a trench machine last week before my surgery) I was pulling parts from the Datsun 720 I'm parting and loading the smaller pieces of scrap on the 5 ton. # We got a late start due to working on Brandon's boss's airplane and reprogramming the computer right for the added turbo. # # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # > Subject: Re: fsj: day of wrenching... # > To: michelbalea@gmail.com; fsj@digest.net # > From: john@wagoneers.com # > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:53:43 +0000 # > # > I've done one of the vent windows as well. The 2nd one I took to a glass shop and paid them to do that and the windshield at the same time. Pix on line. # > # > I figured out the vent on the pass side. Used a couple of pry bars to pull it, the PO didn't realize there was supposed to be a drain and sealed it. I pulled enough stuff out of there to start a small garden. :) # > # > I tested both sides with the hose, the driver's side has a little bit of restriction, but drains, so I may come up from the bottom and try to clean it that way. # > # > The water pump lower rad hose has a slightly different angle and length. My hose is weeping a little. Had just enough metal under the first clamp to add one more. Got both as tight as I could. I should use a driver and ratchet to get it the rest of the way. # > # > Put my black jeep letters on the tailgate and swapped the rotor and cap. # > # > Next project is to rewire the cab, fix the dome light, glove box and reinstall the stereo. Then when my son has time we'll swap in the 3.31 axles I bought from jim blair. # > # > I'm hurting today. Getting too old for contorted wrenching jobs. :). Spent about 9 hours tearing it all apart and putting it back with a break to check out my friend's benz and chase parts. # > # > Pix here: # > http://fotomeister.us/2012/09-Sep-29-J10-waterPump/ # > # > I will upload the final shots of the inside of the vent and letters and make an ALL.html page. # > # > Also, the car show... # > http://fotomeister.us/2012/ look for the latest directories. # > # > John # > # > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ # > # > ---------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 13:36:45 -0500 From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: FSJs Well, the '88 is gone. My sister's family finally trailered it home. My brother-in-law had it running within a few days -- looks like it was one or two issues with the fuel pump. They plan to fix it up (and replace the TBI, one way or another) for their son to drive when he gets old enough (which is still several years off). So that means, for the first time since probably 1997 or so, I'm officially FSJ-less. Technically, both SJs may still be mine at the moment. We'll see when my brother-in-law with the '88 and the friend with the '74 get back to me to tell me they've filled out the titles and done the registrations. Then I'll cancel the insurance and hopefully/probably get the custom license plates back. Somewhat sad on several levels, but also a relief on several other levels. They're great trucks if you have the time and money to spend on maintaining and customizing them, but I don't. Meanwhile, I do love my WJ. The only two things I can think of that I really preferred on the SJs were visibility and cargo space. (And maybe some styling points, but the WJs are also very nice overall.) I've learned to cope with the visibility -- to the point where I can back up pretty well into somewhat crazy places without even looking backward -- only using the mirrors. Having the engine idle so smoothly and quietly at 500rpm and then push you back in your seat instantly when you stomp on it is something else. And the suspension is just amazing -- responsive, and impressively steady on turns, but still so smooth over rough roads. I found out another friend just got one, too -- and I know they're gonna love it. So I plan to stay on this list, but I'm sorry to say I've left the FSJ fold. Maybe I'll be able to rejoin someday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: FSJs I've got 2 FSJs... 3 if you count my son's, that's parked here... so I've got you covered by proxy... we liked our WJs too... visibility wasn't good... everything else was superb... economy could have been better... but WAY better than an SJ, comparable to an XJ. Our 2005 KJ Liberty with CRD is getting more than 20mpg in town with a heavy foot... no complaints... eco-tune in the future should get it in the high 20's in town... the Liberty is so ugly it's cute... cargo space in the back is a pathetic joke, my Jetta wagon has more room... except height wise... I can only get two rows of WVO Cubies in the back of the KJ... about 7, maybe 8 tops... can do three rows in the Jetta wagon... around a dozen at least... seats up... not a big deal to drop the seat in the KJ, split like the WJ. I'm getting my white J10 dialed in a bit... I suspect about the time I get it just right, curtis will have my J10 stepside put together... so I'm hurrying up the repairs... ;) my original plan was to use superdawg as a daily driver... but with the Jetta TDI wagon that won't happen... even if the dawg is getting 20 on wvo, the jetta is doing much better... but I will be able to drive the J10 much more often... which will be great.. :) who knows... maybe I'll get rid of the jetta or the kj... if we're ever forced to go to two cars... at this point even full coverage insurance is only costing me about two hundred bucks a year per vehicle... I had been buying broadform when I did a project rig, but there's no reason when I can have it fully covered for about the same or less... full coverage isn't that much more than basic liability... so... :) my wife and son like the way the white J10 looks, and so do I, that rhino grille looks great... but I love the way superdawg looks with the chrome grille and rectangular headlights too... at this point I'm not likely to have a lot of problems keeping both... worse case scenario I'll put the rhino grille on SuperDawg... it's kind of a shame that the white J10 isn't a short bed... then I could just put the white body on the Diesel chassis... :) the paint is pretty decent... curtis had about two weeks of work left about a year ago... :( - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ vehicle city/hwy engine/trans/xfr - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2002 VW Jetta GLS TDI 34/45 mpg 1.9L TDI/AT 1983 Jeep J10 long box (SJ) 11/15 mpg 5.9L AT/NP208 (best mpg 17.68) 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD (KJ) 22/28 mpg 2.8L AT/NP242 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) (Superdawg)- under construction since 1999 getting '80 Scout SD33T Diesel, TF727/NP208 mpg: 20/24 expected - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTB&TRSTGZS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1 Oct 2012, Dan Black wrote: # Well, the '88 is gone. My sister's family finally trailered it home. # My brother-in-law had it running within a few days -- looks like it # was one or two issues with the fuel pump. They plan to fix it up (and # replace the TBI, one way or another) for their son to drive when he # gets old enough (which is still several years off). # # So that means, for the first time since probably 1997 or so, I'm # officially FSJ-less. # # Technically, both SJs may still be mine at the moment. We'll see when # my brother-in-law with the '88 and the friend with the '74 get back to # me to tell me they've filled out the titles and done the # registrations. Then I'll cancel the insurance and hopefully/probably # get the custom license plates back. # # Somewhat sad on several levels, but also a relief on several other # levels. They're great trucks if you have the time and money to spend # on maintaining and customizing them, but I don't. # # Meanwhile, I do love my WJ. The only two things I can think of that I # really preferred on the SJs were visibility and cargo space. (And # maybe some styling points, but the WJs are also very nice overall.) # I've learned to cope with the visibility -- to the point where I can # back up pretty well into somewhat crazy places without even looking # backward -- only using the mirrors. Having the engine idle so # smoothly and quietly at 500rpm and then push you back in your seat # instantly when you stomp on it is something else. And the suspension # is just amazing -- responsive, and impressively steady on turns, but # still so smooth over rough roads. I found out another friend just got # one, too -- and I know they're gonna love it. # # So I plan to stay on this list, but I'm sorry to say I've left the FSJ # fold. Maybe I'll be able to rejoin someday. # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3978 **************************