From owner-fsj-digest@digest.net Sat Jan 12 20:53:31 2013 From: fsj-digest To: fsj-digest@digest.net Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:52:52 +0000 Subject: fsj-digest V1 #4009 fsj-digest Sunday, January 13 2013 Volume 01 : Number 4009 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question fsj: =?Windows-1252?B?UG9seSBQZXJmb3JtYW5jZSBKRUVQL1RSVUNLICYgQlVHR1mgOjqgRHJpdmV0cmFpbiAmIERpZmZlcmVudGlhbKA6OqBUcmFuc2ZlciBDYXNlICYgUGFydHOgOjqgQ29udmVyc2lvbiBBZGFwdGVyc6A6OqBUcmFuc21pc3Npb24gdG8gRW5naW5lIEFkYXB0ZXIgKFNvcnQgYnkgRW5naW5lKaA6OqBDaGV2eSBTbWFsbCBCbG9jayA4Ni1VcCBFbmdpbmWgOjqgQWR2YW5jZSBBZGFwdGVycyBDaGV2eSBWOCB0byBKZWVwIFRvcnF1ZWZsaXRlIEFkYXB0ZXI=?= FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:21:17 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question Same crank. Smaller bore, like Chev 305 and 350. Jim Blair > Subject: fsj: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > To: rick.george0256@gmail.com; fsj@digest.net > From: john@wagoneers.com > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:17:30 +0000 > > Just checked that page I built. The 304 has a smaller bore than a 360, but the same stroke. > ######## john @ wagoneers.com ######## > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible > is worth more than a college education" > - Theodore Roosevelt > > ######## two word summary: Trust Jesus ######## > > -----Original Message----- > From: "rick.george0256@gmail.com" > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:43:48 > To: > Subject: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > > Good question on 304 vs 360. Until recently I haven't had to deal with the engine. I'm learning now though! I keep you posted. Thanks again! RG > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "john" > To: "rick.george0256@gmail.com" , "fsj-digest" > Subject: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 2:59 pm > That sounds like the right number. :)I didn't dig too deep. I checked bjsoffroad.com as well. He had the entire bolt/gasket set for the 360, I think that'll work though. But didn't see if he had plugs as part of that kit. I need to ck my 83, making noise around #5, not sure if it's exhaust or valve or if my 360 is going to die like my son's just did... A lifter failed on #5 and snapped the cam by #2. Is the 304 different in stroke or bore from the 360 or both? :)######## john @ wagoneers.com ######## "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" - Theodore Roosevelt######## two word summary: Trust Jesus ########From: "rick.george0256@gmail.com" > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:56:02 -0500To: Subject: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold QuestionI'll double check. I thought it said "set of 7"... > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "john" > To: "Rick" > Subject: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 11:17 am > > > Sure that wasn't per bolt? ;) > > Go to your hardware store. 1" long 9/16-20. :) > ######## john @ wagoneers.com ######## > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible > is worth more than a college education" > - Theodore Roosevelt > > ######## two word summary: Trust Jesus ######## > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Rick" > Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:29:18 > To: 'john' > Subject: RE: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > > John, > > Thanks so much! Great information on the 304. > > I see the one site sells a set of 7 plugs for something like $6.95. If they > fit, then that might be the solution. Fortunately, in our county there > aren't any emissions requirements (yet). > > I'll keep you posted. > > Rick > > -----Original Message----- > From: john [mailto:john@wagoneers.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:00 PM > To: Rick > Cc: full size jeep list > Subject: Re: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question > > Rick, > > here's the info I have on engines... just a little blurb on the 304. > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Engines/FSJ-engines-ALL/Engines-FSJ.html > > as far as the air injection bolts... it seems they are 9/16-20 (fine > thread)... you might want to consider using anti-seize or threadlocker... > the heat/rust issue might make them challenging to get out if you need to > comply with emissions... if not... crank 'em on down and carry on. :) > > fwiw, I found pictures of the parts and some very expenisve prices here: > http://www.teamgrandwagoneer.com/parts/Exhaust/index.html > > as far as I know the FSJs never had metric parts... but if someone swapped > something in from another, newer model of some kind I guess those would be > 14mm bolts. > > Hopefully this will work for you... what I did on mine was to crimp the > tubes over, may have even put liquid steel in there... have also welded 'em > shut before... depending on what you've got handy at the time. > > I have seen these manifolds "burn" through... if the mix/timing isn't right > they'll overheat and fail... seen it at least twice... > > happy wrenching! > > john > > > ----- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation > http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" > Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - Trust Jesus > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # > > # From: Rick # To: john@wagoneers.com # Date: > Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:25:08 -0500 # Subject: 304 Exhaust Manifold Question # > # John, # # # # A bit of a technical question here regarding the 304 > exhaust manifolds and those tubes that were part of the primitive pollution > control system way back (the 258 straight 6 in my C?C?84 CJ-7 has them too). > # > # > # > # Is there a way to get them out of the manifold and replace the keeper > bolts with plain bolts to close up the holes? > # > # > # > # On a side note, all of the tubes were sheared off when I bought Gladiator > C?C? so they vent to the atmosphere. The CJ-7 still has the tubing that goes > up to a smaller manifold that goes nowhere C?C? the guy who owned it before me > crimped the outlet shut. > # > # > # > # Best, > # Rick > # > # From: john [mailto:john@wagoneers.com] # Sent: Wednesday, January 09, > 2013 5:33 PM # To: rick.george0256@gmail.com # Subject: Re: Manual Rec'd; > 304 V-8 Manual? > # I've got some stuff on line that may provide info too. Will look for the > links. > # The 304 wasn't used a long time but is pretty close. Amc 290, 304, 360 > and 401 shared a lot. > # > # ######## john @ wagoneers.com ######## # "A thorough knowledge of the > Bible # is worth more than a college education" > # - Theodore Roosevelt > # > # ######## two word summary: Trust Jesus ######## ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:51:58 +0000 From: "john" Subject: fsj: =?Windows-1252?B?UG9seSBQZXJmb3JtYW5jZSBKRUVQL1RSVUNLICYgQlVHR1mgOjqgRHJpdmV0cmFpbiAmIERpZmZlcmVudGlhbKA6OqBUcmFuc2ZlciBDYXNlICYgUGFydHOgOjqgQ29udmVyc2lvbiBBZGFwdGVyc6A6OqBUcmFuc21pc3Npb24gdG8gRW5naW5lIEFkYXB0ZXIgKFNvcnQgYnkgRW5naW5lKaA6OqBDaGV2eSBTbWFsbCBCbG9jayA4Ni1VcCBFbmdpbmWgOjqgQWR2YW5jZSBBZGFwdGVycyBDaGV2eSBWOCB0byBKZWVwIFRvcnF1ZWZsaXRlIEFkYXB0ZXI=?= Ever heard of these? When they say v8 would that include a 6.2. http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Advance-Adapters-Chevy-V8-to-Jeep-Torqueflite-Adapter-Kit-p-20880.html ######## john @ wagoneers.com ######## "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" - Theodore Roosevelt ######## two word summary: Trust Jesus ######## ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #4009 **************************