From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #6 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 31 1998 Volume 01 : Number 006 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Tires, brake pad and fluid MB Star/Club administrivia: posting traps in the current majordomo installation Re: MB Star/Club Another Name for that 240D administrivia: why confirmation? RE: Help! Oil in my air filter; Is my vacuum pump gone out? figure this one out... Re: figure this one out... Re: figure this one out... Re: figure this one out... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:56:17 -0500 From: Stephen Rowe Subject: Re: Tires, brake pad and fluid >Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:02:54 -0400 >From: Richard Welty >Subject: Re: Tires and brake pads. > >>I have the worst wet weather tires imaginable - cooper lifeline... >>If I hit the brakes on wet road the tires immediately lock up. Also >>get major understeer... I hate understeer.... > >>Any recommendations for a good handling, nice riding tire that does superbly >>on wet roads, wear well and so on... :) > >i'll repeat my recommendation of the Yokohama A509 -- as long as you don't >take them near snow. outstanding wet/dry pavement behavior. > >richard Another good tire is the Bridgestine RE-940. It is M&S rated too. ************************ Brake pads are fickle sometimes. I have procured mine from the "Brake Warehouse". They are very knowledgable and are willing to pass in on. 1800-814-0702. I would be very hesitant to turn your disks as they are designed as heat sinks for the conversion of energy and are more prone to warp after turning. ************************ The following is a repeat of what I posted on one of the Cherokee lists regarding brake fluid changes. Here is what I did and the recommendation from what I learned doing fluid changes. Also you can use these same procedures to change your hydraulic clutch fluid (same stuff). You have 2 methods of forcing the fluid out. Either using the master cylinder to provide the positive pressure at the master cylinder or a vacuum (negative pressure) at the wheel cylinders. I have used both. The standard method is a 2 person job (you had better have some good credits with the person helping because it will be a patience tester). (pump, pump, pump, hold, open bleeder nipple, close nipple, repeat until fluid is clear). I agree to start with the longest length first but I also remove as much fluid from the master cylinder as possable first, add new fluid S L O WL Y, then start purging. That way you dont mix as much old fluid with the new. Remember NOT to push all the way down on the brakes with the bleeder nipple open. This will push the master cylinder seals into virgin territory and WILL cause harm because the seals will be exposed into the area of the master cylinder that has not been polished/honed through many application. Ignore this and your will be replacing your master cylinder much sooner than needed. Before starting the job, push down on the brake peddle and note how far it goes down. Then put a block under the brake peddle that will stop its motion at that point during the purging process The vacuum method is similar, generally easier and faster, but you must ensure that the bubbles in the purges fluid are coming from the bleeder nipple not somewhere else in the system. The solution is to put a few drops of new fluid around the outside of the bleeder nipple to *seal* it. I bought a tool from Imparts in St. Louis to do this. It works fairly well. This is generally a one person job. There are several other devices that work (how well, I do not know), namely EZ-BLEED and the pressure systems. A few comments on which fluid to use and how often to change it. First, use the one that is specified in your owners/maitenance manuals!!!!! Generally, for Jeeps and most SUV's it's DOT3. Get several SMALL containers and don't open them until your are ready to pour. There are some really good DOT 3 fluids (Castrol LMA, Ford Truck fluid), but make sure you are pouring from a virgin container. DOT 4 is very similar to DOT 3, but has a higher boiling temperature than DOT 3 (ATE is the best known for everyday DOT 4 fluid). You can mix DOT 3 and 4, but it is not recommended. Second, brake fluid is designed to absorb water (to prevent rusting in your brake system), but when water boils it becomes a gas (steam) and then you get spongy, if nonexistant, brake peddle feel. Unless your system requires DOT 5, don't!!!! Three, change your brake fluid annually (BMW, Mercedes, Volvo and others don't mandate this just to make high profits) its a safety thing. If you are towing, or otherwise demanding on your brakes, your life and the lives of everyone around you are at risk with old fluid. Just because you can't see it doesn't make it a non-threat. Brake fluid is very cheap compared to injuries, funerals, increased insurance premiums, law suits, replacement vehicles, etc.... Your brakes are the *engine* for the other vector in the acceleration chart. They need to have a higher hp rating than your motor, and it are designed that way. With old fluid, its like running bad gas. 'Nuff sed. Standard disclaimers apply, Steve WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW '91 525i (BL/SS, Korman mod head, 140k, Redline, K&N, chip) '88 Cherokee (4.0L, 148k, NP242, Redline, K&N, MSD) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 07:52:22 -0600 From: "TDGordon" Subject: MB Star/Club john asked: Is it worth joining? I picked up a flyer at the shop. Is it worth $35 a year for 6 issues of the star? I dunno - I did it since I am two months old to MB. But I like the Star - it is a nice magazine, but I think there will be very few issues with topics to interest me as the usual issue will be new cars and more features/style. But, my very first issue May '98 featured diesels - I liked it since my MB is '81 240D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:59:11 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: posting traps in the current majordomo installation the majordomo installation on digest.net (aka krusty-motorsports.com) has a number of traps in it. some are spam traps that detect and put out common and annoying spammers. others detect certain types of problem postings; articles that for one reason or another create problems for various subscribers. i'm in the process of adding a couple due to popular demand. i felt that the readership of the various lists should know what's being trapped: 1) 8 bit postings -- these include various national character sets and special characters. many readers are at sites whose mail transport bounces these back to me. i get these in my inbox, one way or another, but i get a great deal less of it if i trap these on the first pass through. 2) winmail.dat files -- these are generated by some M$ products; as time permits i now edit out the winmail.dat files and forward the messages to the appropriate list. this can delay getting your message out. 3) -- these are html formatted messages from certain M$ clients that i know of. a recent posting to one of the lists of this type includes the header line X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 if you are using such a product, turn off the html features when you send postings 4) Content-type: text/html; -- these are html formatted messages from a variety of clients; again, make sure you have html features turned off when sending to the digest. i know M$ Outlook may generate these, and i believe that certain netscape mail clients may do so as well. since the copy of eudora light i am using can display them, eudora may well be able to generate them. please turn it off. i will add other traps as i identify strings to match in message bodies. i will definitely be trying to trap things like word documents and base64 encoded binaries. i will edit and resend where possible, subject to potential delays, but some html formatted messages will require unreasonable amounts of work on my part, and may just get mailed back to the sender with instructions to resend without the encoding. richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:41:29 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: MB Star/Club At 07:52 AM 7/30/98 -0600, TDGordon wrote: >john asked: >Is it worth joining? I picked up a flyer at the shop. Is it worth >$35 a year for 6 issues of the star? >features/style. But, my very first issue May '98 featured diesels - I >liked it since my MB is '81 240D I just wrote the check... One thing I've learned in playing with cars, SAVE the info on the new stuff because it becomes USED and then we can afford it. :) BTW, I picked up my application from a shop in Everett, WA. I drooled over the "new" Cherokee Turbo Diesel in 1985, figured what color I wanted, etc. Knew I couldn't afford it... About 5 years later thumbing through a newspaper I found one for about 1/2 book value. It was making a funny noise, vacuum pump. Picked it up for a sweet deal. Save literature and manuals... sure it takes space, but you'll appreciate it when you can afford the used rig... :) later, john --------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john/ Snohomish, Washington USA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ------------------------------------------------------------------ '81 Mercedes 300D, '81 Jeep J10(SJ) Pickup, '88 Jeep Wagoneer(xj) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ jesus - don't leave life without him... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:44:29 -0700 From: john Subject: Another Name for that 240D I finally remembered the name I gave to my 75 240D: Milton Now I forgot who was looking for it... :) john --------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john/ Snohomish, Washington USA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ------------------------------------------------------------------ jesus - don't leave life without him... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:11:24 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: why confirmation? many people ask why the confirmation stuff is in place. well, when moving a big list (like the bmw-digest, the move of which is in progress), it's because i want to use the move to also clean the list of defunct/bogus addresses. in general, because there are occasional problems with what list admins often call "subscription bombing", where an email forger with a grudge or some latent hostility towards another party forges gratuitous subscription requests in the name of the target party. by requiring confirmation of subscription requests, these bombings come under control, at least with respect to the lists i manage. this still doesn't control "archive request bombing", which i had a nasty run of maybe 2 years ago, because some as yet unidentified individual was trying to unload on a bunch of aol users. someday i'll work that one out... richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:45:17 -0700 From: "Meister, John" Subject: RE: Help! Oil in my air filter; Is my vacuum pump gone out? No one seems to be answering this so I'll give you my gut feeling. Shouldn't be a problem. Ingesting oil into a Diesel doesn't hurt anything if it's limited. The only possible problem is some of the vacuum switches may get "gunky". Careful what you use to clean it so you don't dissolve any lines... Breaking a ring can cause oil to be drawn into the cylinder and you have what is known as a runaway situation... usually a problem with big rigs... the motor goes until it self destructs or seizes... :) john john meister sr CAD sys admin, Intermec meister-at-intermec.com (425) 356.1663 http://www.intermec.com ( http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john john-at-virtual-cafe.com ) > ---------- > From: Richard F. Dillon[SMTP:rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org] > Reply To: rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 7:38 PM > To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: FW: Help! Oil in my air filter; Is my vacuum pump gone > out? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard F. Dillon [mailto:rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org] > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 9:45 PM > To: 'diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net' > Subject: Help!!!! Oil in my air filter; Is my vacuum pump gone out? > > > I opened up the hood today and saw oil dripping out under the air > filter. I > drove the car about 8 hours Sunday, and had no problem, but I went to > change the oil today and to my horror found oil in the air filter > canister, > the air filter, and in the little filter that I had installed in the > vacuum > line to detect oil in the vacuum line. I guess my vacuum pump has > gone out. > Tomorrow I'm going to ask the mechanic to replace the diaphragm, but > beyond > that, what damage could have happened to the car? Would driving it 2 > days > this way damaged my vacuum booster and other items? I haven't leaked > much > oil as my oil level is o.k. How can I make sure that my rubber > diaphragm > and brake booster components aren't affected? How might I clean the > vacuum > lines coming off the vacuum pump? Any help or advice is greatly > appreciated, TIA, please reply to rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org > > > Richard F. Dillon > rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:27:45 -0700 From: john Subject: figure this one out... What exactly is a "Univeral Precautions Compliance Kit" ? Hint: it's OSHA compliant. :-) john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com - ----------------------------------------------------------- UNIX tip of the day: never grep a yacc by it's inodes - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 00:46:24 -0400 From: "Matthew J. Mason" Subject: Re: figure this one out... At 09:27 PM 7/30/98 -0700, you wrote: >What exactly is a "Univeral Precautions Compliance Kit" ? >Hint: it's OSHA compliant. > >:-) > >john Ah yes, OSHA... the knuckleheads who think the whole world should live day-to-day wearing crash helmets, shades which block UVA/B (and little-known C), and clothing made entirely of latex, and should carry gun-looking devices painted safety-orange, that shoot pellets (at extremely low velocities) containing messages written on tiny scrolls of paper which read "Look both ways!" "Stop, drop and roll!" and "Don't let the dog eat the marigolds!" Most importantly, in addition to wanting you to do all these things, OSHAites want you to think that THEY DO THEM TOO. Perhaps said items are enclosed in your kit. Regards and laughs, -- Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:58:55 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: figure this one out... At 12:46 AM 7/31/98 -0400, you wrote: >At 09:27 PM 7/30/98 -0700, you wrote: >>What exactly is a "Univeral Precautions Compliance Kit" ? >>Hint: it's OSHA compliant. >>:-) >>john > Ah yes, OSHA... the knuckleheads who think the whole world should live >day-to-day wearing crash helmets, shades which block UVA/B (and >little-known C), and clothing made entirely of latex, and should carry >gun-looking devices painted safety-orange, that shoot pellets (at extremely >low velocities) containing messages written on tiny scrolls of paper which >read "Look both ways!" "Stop, drop and roll!" and "Don't let the dog eat >the marigolds!" Most importantly, in addition to wanting you to do all >these things, OSHAites want you to think that THEY DO THEM TOO. > > Perhaps said items are enclosed in your kit. > Regards and laughs, -- Matt nope, actually, it's not that involved... ANOTHER HINT: IT was hanging on the wall in a common area... :) another hint: in Germany it is REQUIRED to have one in your vehicle... :) (I probably just gave it a way... :) john --------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john/ Snohomish, Washington USA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ------------------------------------------------------------------ jesus - don't leave life without him... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:51:30 GMT From: gmbeasley-at-mindspring.com (R Beasley) Subject: Re: figure this one out... On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 21:58:55 -0700, you wrote: >>>What exactly is a "Universal Precautions Compliance Kit" ? >>>Hint: it's OSHA compliant. =20 >> Ah yes, OSHA... the knuckleheads who think the whole world should live >>day-to-day wearing crash helmets, shades which block UVA/B (and >>little-known C), and clothing made entirely of latex, and should carry >>gun-looking devices painted safety-orange, that shoot pellets (at = extremely >>low velocities) containing messages written on tiny scrolls of paper = which >>read "Look both ways!" "Stop, drop and roll!" and "Don't let the dog = eat >>the marigolds!" Most importantly, in addition to wanting you to do all >>these things, OSHAites want you to think that THEY DO THEM TOO. I take exception to those remarks since I am one of those knuckleheads. I think clothing made of latex would be kind of exciting - maybe you mean Tyvek? =20 What we really want you to do ;-) is wear appropriate personal protective equipment for various situations, such as, in the car (req. MB content), your safety belt, and appropriate shoes, sun glasses for sure if it is daytime and the sun is out etc.. > >nope, actually, it's not that involved... I thought when you first posted that it was a universal precautions first aid kit for bloodborne pathogens with latex gloves and a CPR mask, plus appropriate clean-up materials. We really don't have regulations for that, but universal precautions to us OSHA types means acting as though everyone is HIV+, and taking the same precautions for everyone. >ANOTHER HINT: IT was hanging on the wall in a common area... > >:) Then, when you posted that, I though fire extinguisher. >another hint: in Germany it is REQUIRED to have one in your vehicle... >:) (I probably just gave it a way... :) Now I'm really confused. Which is it? grandma Rosalie with the '82 300D et al. =20 RosalieAnn Figge Beasley, C.I.H. MOSHA Consultation My opinions are not official OSHA positions. "Use your own judgement and then do as I say" ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #6 *******************************