From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #72 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Saturday, January 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 072 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: Torque Flat Spot? Re: Welty Fund Re: air filter pricing/dealer prices Need a radiator for 1982 300TDT (123) RE: Need a radiator for 1982 300TDT (123) Re: Welty Fund Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 01:18:42 -0800 From: john Subject: RE: Torque Flat Spot? At 05:02 PM 1/8/99 +0800, amroque-at-mnl.sequel.net wrote: >John, >>Thanks for your response. Wasn't this supposed to go to the list? didn't it??? oops. go ahead and send it to the list... others might benefit from it... >>> >> If you accelerate in 1 or 2 does it do it then? How about >> on a slow rev up through the RPM range in neutral? >>I haven't reved it up to enough in 1 or 2. I'll try over the weekend. it might be harder to tell in the lower gears, less load. > >> >> If not it could be a vacuum related problem with your AT or the >> AT itself. My 81 300D (aka Fritz), has a problem in 3rd >> gear, will kind of slip or shudder, it's quite annoying, >> but in playing around with vacuum lines I can make it change, >> which is encouraging because an AT rebuild was quoted at $2600. > >I've got a stick shift, so I guess that eliminates the vacuum, right? Yep. :-) That makes it much easier too, since it ain't the transmission. It could be the clutch, but not likely. So, it sounds like the fuel return setup... Did the shop know what they were doing that did the pump? > >>>> If my tranny goes I'm going down to the wrecking yard and buying >> the driveline out of a totaled benz and putting the engine >> into a Full Size Jeep and the tranny into Fritz. :) I figure >> it'll cost me less than $1,500 to buy the entire driveline >> and these things are so easy to work on I could have the tranny >> swapped in a weekend, that is if I borrow my mechanics tranny >> jack... :) > >Wish we had that sort of junkyard in the Philippines. Everything here is >just melted down or something!! Phillipines? Wow. >>> >> There are other possibilities. 1) the fuel return adustment >> is incorrect causing fuel pressure to buildup. I don't know >> where the adjustment is on the Bosch pump, but I've had this >> trouble with the Roosa pump on one of my GM Diesels. >> 2) it could also be that the timing is off just a little bit, >> that could be why it varies after maintenance. > >I don't know about the fuel return, will ask the mechanic. If it's the >timing, doesn't that mean it's time to replace the chain? And if it is the >chain how come I only experience it at a certain RPM? don't think it's mechanical... I'm convinced at this point it's your Injection Pump. Diagphram or the fuel metering/return stuff... the pump shop will know. Tell them it's bobbling and surging, that might help... :) > >>>> I doubt seriously it's the driveshaft. Carefully run the motor >> up through the RPM range with no load, CAREFULLY, meaning slowly, >> listening carefully and feeling with all of your body. If you >> feel any vibrations or shudders on a run up through the RPM range >> it eliminates the transmission (but not the torque converter). Reving >> a Diesel engine with no load is a dangerous thing to do, don't do >> it very often. (The emissions tests really irritates me, they have >> you floor the motor and then back off... makes me nervous as all >> get out...) > >I've tried that and it doesn't SEEM to shudder. Hmmmm....another thing to >try over the weekend! don't bother, I'm sure it's in the fuel system now. > >>>> Anyways, you didn't mention how many miles on the tranny. > >I got her with a working speedometer but broken odometer. Mileage doesn't >matter much in this part of the world! > >>>> I'd say that whoever did the overhaul on the injection pump >> didn't get it quite right. I had to have mine redone after >> a rebuild. What shop did it? Did they replace the diaphram >> in the pump or just through it on the bench and dial it in? >> Did they replace the piston or any of the internals? > >The invoice charged me for 5 nozzle tips, 5 delivery valve, 4 rubber >buffers, and a repair kit. They did say that the internal parts were still >fine. then they fiddled with the adjustments while it was on the car and gave you too much fuel. does it smoke? >>This is both my first MB and diesel. I've had the car for almost a year now. >I hope that explains my questions and where I am on the learning curve!! >Thanks for your help! no problem, the list is an education tool for all of us. :) > >BTW, do you have any missions in the Philippines? >>Andrew Can't think of anyone I know down there. I'm not sure if SouthEast Asia Missions has any thing down there or not. BTW, how's the weather? :) It's been mizzling here, 40 to 50 degrees... gotta run, it's late, I've been scanning in data sheets too long... john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john http://www.wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/TECH-SHEETS Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:39:54 -0800 From: Richard Welty Subject: Re: Welty Fund i was out of town for several days worth of Cabletron training when this particular item came up. i personally don't have any problem with Bill's efforts to coordinate an effort of this type, i do not believe that he's running an scam, and have absolutely no suspicions of his motives. cheers, richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:06:25 -0600 From: "TDGordon" Subject: Re: air filter pricing/dealer prices > IMPCO's filter is $22.64 (haven't even asked the dealer. :) John, that air filter price is beat by my dealer. The dealer is not always higher. I saw IMPCO's price on oil filters, asked my dealer where he could give me a break, he said 5 filters, and beat IMPCO's price plus I walked outa there with them and didn't have to wait for UPS delivery. Dan ChicagoArea '81 240D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:15:39 -0800 From: "John Paul Broad" Subject: Need a radiator for 1982 300TDT (123) Well I need a radiator for my (new to me) 1982 300TDT (123). Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with Jim's Radiator repair (got the link from Dave's list homepage under "Parts")? He's quoting $125 shipped for a rebuilt radiator w/ a $50 core charge. Comments? Suggestions? Warnings? Advice? :) Thanks in advance. John Paul John Paul Broad johnpaul-at-10corp.com 1999 SLK230 - Manual 2k ;) 1998 C230 12k - For Sale 1982 300TD 162k Member: MBCA Portland, OR "If you count on the worst and hope for the best you'll rarely be disappointed." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:18:02 -0800 From: "Meister, John" Subject: RE: Need a radiator for 1982 300TDT (123) sounds like a great price... does he do Jeeps too? :) ======================================================= john.meister-at-intermec.com sr CAD sys admin (425) 356.1663 http://www.intermec.com ( http://www.wagoneers.com/ john-at-wagoneers.com ) ======================================================= - -----Original Message----- From: John Paul Broad [mailto:johnpaul-at-10corp.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 1:16 PM To: Mercedes Email List; Mercedes Diesel Email List Subject: Need a radiator for 1982 300TDT (123) Well I need a radiator for my (new to me) 1982 300TDT (123). Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with Jim's Radiator repair (got the link from Dave's list homepage under "Parts")? He's quoting $125 shipped for a rebuilt radiator w/ a $50 core charge. Comments? Suggestions? Warnings? Advice? :) Thanks in advance. John Paul John Paul Broad johnpaul-at-10corp.com 1999 SLK230 - Manual 2k ;) 1998 C230 12k - For Sale 1982 300TD 162k Member: MBCA Portland, OR "If you count on the worst and hope for the best you'll rarely be disappointed." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:53:04 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Welty Fund Richard, I think we all recognized the noble effort of Bill, but wouldn't it be easier to send the money directly to your business rather than bothering Bill with managing the donations? If so, why don't you repost the appropriate address and preferred name for checks? Once again, thank you very much for providing this wonderful service for all of us. We are very grateful for it and wish you many blessings and great prosperity. :-) john At 11:39 AM 1/8/99 -0800, Richard Welty wrote: >i was out of town for several days worth of Cabletron training when this >particular item came up. > >i personally don't have any problem with Bill's efforts to coordinate an >effort of this type, i do not believe that he's running an scam, and have >absolutely no suspicions of his motives. > >cheers, > richard > > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john jesus, don't leave life without him, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #72 ********************************