From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #77 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, January 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 077 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: becker radio RE: the power of Fritz RE: the power of Fritz Fritz rides again metric - US conversion info Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:35:42 -0800 From: john Subject: becker radio I will point out one very pleasant thing... Even though I disconnected the battery for about 20 minutes last night... The radio did NOT loose it's programming!!!! I'm impressed. john ============================================================= The just shall live by Faith... Der Gerechte wird aus Glauben leben... Mas El Justo vivira Por Fe... Le Juste vivra par la foi... Habakkuk 2:4b, Romans 1:17, Galations 3:11, Hebrews 10:38 http://www.wagoneers.com/BIBLE/Bible-1998.html ============================================================= john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com/LivingByFaith/ ============================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:47:43 -0800 From: "John Paul Broad" Subject: RE: the power of Fritz John, If you call 1-800-FOR-MERCedes they will come out and jump Fritz no charge. Also a handy number in case you run out of fuel (they'll bring you 2-3 gallons, often at no charge). John Paul John Paul Broad johnpaul-at-10corp.com 1999 SLK230 - Manual 2k ;) 1998 C230 12k - For Sale 1982 300TD 162k Member: MBCA Portland, OR "If you count on the worst and hope for the best you'll rarely be disappointed." - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:26 PM To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: the power of Fritz Well, I found the ground cable frame to engine, cleaned and tightened it, as well as the main ground. Still no start. When I turn the key to accessory I get this incredible buzzing, clicking sound, JUST LIKE A DEAD battery. Hmmmm... So I throw the battery charger on and it's only drawing about 5 amps. Hmmm... Check the levels, ok. I turn on the headlight switch with the key to accessory, BRIGHT LIGHTS, and also a heavy draw on the Battery Charger... Hmmm... so I just ran out, turned off the battery charger which just happened to be at zero anyway. Turned the key to accessory, nothing, nada, turned on the light switch and walked around front... Hmmm... didn't know headlights could be that dim... Walked over to the battery charger, kicked it on and voila, bright lights! That thereby eliminated grounds, wiring and switches. What we have here is a dead battery. The problem I have is UNDERSTANDING how a random, intermittent even, problem all of a sudden became a dead battery. The symptoms had been, wiggle the wire and Fritz starts. Then all of a sudden, nothing. Morale of the story is keep an open mind when troubleshooting. The symptoms may change because new problems come about! Strange one though... Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone on the list just go through this same scenario? Wasn't it Grandma someone? :) I think she dropped off the list a few weeks ago.. Anyways, it was a DieHard battery. Can't tell when it was put in, possibly 1987 from the codes on top. Not bad, 12 years, and even made it through our "winter", the two weeks of really cold weather we had. I'll probably be putting in a NAPA or possibly another DieHard... I wonder if AAA can jump this beast? I doubt the little wagoneer would be able to. Might give it a try in the morning... it's an awful lot to expect of my jumper cables though... :) john ------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com - http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------------------------------------------------- http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ (81 300D) ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:59:51 -0800 From: john Subject: RE: the power of Fritz Fortunately Fritz is snuggled in his carport, on life support, even though the battery isn't taking a charge... I signed my wife up for AAA, but don't want to waste any "silver bullets". :) I'll yank the battery and haul it into town for a test and replacement. Good to know though. I think it's incredible what Mercedes offers. As a mechanic I usually don't call in help unless it's really important. :) That way I don't feel guilty when I use my AAA towing service to bring a "project" home. :) john At 07:47 AM 1/15/99 -0800, John Paul Broad wrote: >John, > >If you call 1-800-FOR-MERCedes they will come out and jump Fritz no charge. >Also a handy number in case you run out of fuel (they'll bring you 2-3 >gallons, often at no charge). > >John Paul > >John Paul Broad johnpaul-at-10corp.com >1999 SLK230 - Manual 2k ;) >1998 C230 12k - For Sale >1982 300TD 162k >Member: MBCA Portland, OR >"If you count on the worst and hope for the best you'll rarely be >disappointed." > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net >[mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john >Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:26 PM >To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Subject: the power of Fritz > > >Well, I found the ground cable frame to engine, cleaned and tightened it, >as well as the main ground. > >Still no start. > >When I turn the key to accessory I get this incredible buzzing, clicking >sound, JUST LIKE A DEAD battery. Hmmmm... So I throw the battery charger >on and it's only drawing about 5 amps. Hmmm... Check the levels, ok. > >I turn on the headlight switch with the key to accessory, BRIGHT LIGHTS, >and also a heavy draw on the Battery Charger... Hmmm... so I just >ran out, turned off the battery charger which just happened to be at zero >anyway. > >Turned the key to accessory, nothing, nada, turned on the light switch >and walked around front... Hmmm... didn't know headlights could be that >dim... Walked over to the battery charger, kicked it on and voila, >bright lights! > >That thereby eliminated grounds, wiring and switches. What we have >here is a dead battery. > >The problem I have is UNDERSTANDING how a random, intermittent even, >problem all of a sudden became a dead battery. The symptoms had >been, wiggle the wire and Fritz starts. Then all of a sudden, nothing. > >Morale of the story is keep an open mind when troubleshooting. The >symptoms may change because new problems come about! Strange one though... > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone on the list just go through >this same scenario? Wasn't it Grandma someone? :) I think she dropped >off the list a few weeks ago.. > >Anyways, it was a DieHard battery. Can't tell when it was put in, >possibly 1987 from the codes on top. Not bad, 12 years, and even made >it through our "winter", the two weeks of really cold weather we had. > >I'll probably be putting in a NAPA or possibly another DieHard... I >wonder if AAA can jump this beast? I doubt the little wagoneer would >be able to. Might give it a try in the morning... it's an awful >lot to expect of my jumper cables though... :) > >john > ------------------------------------------------- > john-at-virtual-cafe.com - http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john > http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ (81 300D) > ------------------------------------------------- > > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john jesus, don't leave life without him, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:18:54 -0800 From: john Subject: Fritz rides again Picked up an AC/Delco battery, dropped it in Fritz tonight and he lit right off... I still don't have the vacuum system 100%: heater works, cruise works, engine shuts off... but the locks DON'T work right... hmmmmm.... I guess I just have to sort out the Green, the yellow, the yellow/green and the black/yellow. :) The factory manual leaves a little bit to be desired... :) oh well... at least he starts and goes. Got wheels... can always push the buttons down manually till I figure out the plumbin'. john - ---------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com John 3:16-20 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. 18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 "And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil. 20 "For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:22:59 -0800 From: john Subject: metric - US conversion info in putting together technical info for the book I created these pages: http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/metric-volumes.html http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/metric-distances.html mph to km/h, gallons to liters and so on... also cubic inches to liters... back to work, john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john http://www.wagoneers.com/book-info.html jesus, don't leave life without him, please! 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