From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #139 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Monday, May 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 139 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Diesel Prices diesel filter elements Re: Diesel Prices Shipping a car FROM Europe OM 661 and OM 662 MB Diesel engines Re: Shipping a car FROM Europe Re: More diesel info please Re: Shipping a car FROM Europe climate control installed Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:43:13 PDT From: Daniel A Jacobs Subject: Re: Diesel Prices The truck stop in wilsonville is gone. Yes, the truck stops let you pump it yourself. On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:56:32 -0700 john writes: >do they let you pump it yourself? >Oregon has some funny laws... :) > > (used to live there... :) > >The truck stop down in Wilsonville off of I-5 is a good source >as well. They have some good CB stuff for sale there as well... :) > >john > >At 11:01 PM 4/23/99 PDT, Daniel A Jacobs wrote: >>At Jubitz truck stop in north Portland, OR, they charge $.20 over the >>non-taxed diesel price on the pump, which brings it to about $1.25, I >>think. I usually go there for fuel no matter how much they cahrge >>because they always have fresh, non contaminated fuel. They sell >alot of >>fuel to truck drivers, so the fuel isn't sitting in the ground with >algae >>and bacteria growing in it to plug my filters. Also, if they sold >bad >>(fuel that made the trucks run poorly), fuel, the truck drivers would >>stop buying fuel there, and that is the #1 profit making item for >them. >>I'll stop buying fuel there when the professional drivers stop buying >>fuel there. >> >>Dan >>kc7nol-at-juno.com >>On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:40:37 -0700 john (nospam)> >>writes: >>>Diesel prices have been all over the map lately! (In Washington >>>state with have $.43 (43 cents) worth of state and federal taxes on >>>our Diesel!!! Gasoline only has about $.23 worth... will have to >>>double check... >>> >>>ANYWAYS, I found a Shell on 164th in Mill Creek (south of Everett, >WA) >>>that >>>has Diesel for $1.29 ! >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________ >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >>or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> >----------------------------------------------------- > john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com > > http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john > http://www.wagoneers.com/book-info.html > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >----------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:07:42 -0400 From: "Matthew J. Mason" Subject: diesel filter elements Dan -- how are the TP elements set up? Are you describing the paper filters (housed in plastic) similar to the ones VW used on their diesels*, or have you rigged something using actual TP? * seen 'em on a '77 Rabbit and an '82 Vanagon ________________________________________- At 05:42 PM 5/7/99 PDT, Daniel A Jacobs wrote: >Basically, if you need to change your fuel filter(s) before the >recommended interval, the fuel is dirty. The filters are supposed to >filter out the very smallest of particles, because if those particles got >to your injector pump and further down the line, then you better plan on >winning the lottery to support your new parts habit. I have two toilet >paper element secondary filters, one is for the engine oil, and the other >for the fuel. I change the toilet paper elements about every 1,000 >miles, so my "normal" filters have never needed to be changed earlier >than recommended. The reason for the TP filter on the fuel is obvious, >but why the TP filter on the engine oil you ask? As I understand it, the >TP traps and holds soot and acids that can do nasty things to the engine >parts. In fact, these systems are now being tried in heavy trucking once >again, and the results are extended oil drain intervals (sometimes as >high as 70,000 miles! Wow!) > >Dan >kc7nol-at-juno.com > >PS for John: I couldn't find a list in my address book for the MBZ >diesel list, so could you please shove this on to the rest of them? M >Mason had a good question, and everyone should know the answer if they >don't already. Thanks > >On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:53:57 -0400 "Matthew J. Mason" > writes: >> >>I've always wondered... aside from marked declines in performance/fuel >>mileage and acceleration, etc., is there an easy way to tell if >>diesel's >>"clean" coming out of the pump? It all looks and smells the same to >>me, >>but yet diesel ain't always diesel... >> >>-- mjm > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:33:11 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Diesel Prices there are a number of good filter systems out there... I've got a couple in the shop that I haven't installed yet. AMSOIL also makes a Bypass and dual remote bypass filter setup for oil. Can't remember the name of the filters... drat. john At 05:42 PM 5/7/99 PDT, Daniel A Jacobs wrote: >Basically, if you need to change your fuel filter(s) before the >recommended interval, the fuel is dirty. The filters are supposed to >filter out the very smallest of particles, because if those particles got >to your injector pump and further down the line, then you better plan on >winning the lottery to support your new parts habit. I have two toilet >paper element secondary filters, one is for the engine oil, and the other >for the fuel. I change the toilet paper elements about every 1,000 >miles, so my "normal" filters have never needed to be changed earlier >than recommended. The reason for the TP filter on the fuel is obvious, >but why the TP filter on the engine oil you ask? As I understand it, the >TP traps and holds soot and acids that can do nasty things to the engine >parts. In fact, these systems are now being tried in heavy trucking once >again, and the results are extended oil drain intervals (sometimes as >high as 70,000 miles! Wow!) > >Dan >kc7nol-at-juno.com > >PS for John: I couldn't find a list in my address book for the MBZ >diesel list, so could you please shove this on to the rest of them? M >Mason had a good question, and everyone should know the answer if they >don't already. Thanks > >On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:53:57 -0400 "Matthew J. Mason" > writes: >> >>I've always wondered... aside from marked declines in performance/fuel >>mileage and acceleration, etc., is there an easy way to tell if >>diesel's >>"clean" coming out of the pump? It all looks and smells the same to >>me, >>but yet diesel ain't always diesel... >> >>-- mjm > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john 77 Wagoneer (SJ) - 81 MB 300D (123) - 88 wagoneer (xj) jesus, don't leave life without him, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 20:50:52 -0400 From: "Christopher M. Klass" Subject: Shipping a car FROM Europe I am thinking about buying a car in the UK or France. Has anyone ever done it? What does it cost? Chris 82 300SD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:44:46 +1200 From: Hari Sreedhar Subject: OM 661 and OM 662 MB Diesel engines Greetings fellow digesters! Can anyone on this listing enlighten me on the above engines that are possibly used in the MB vans and light trucks and maybe on some cars. They are 2.8 litre or 2.9 litre capacity and are used also in the Ssangyong MUSSO 4x4. These are built in Korea with MB collaboration and technical assistance till recently when the controlling share holding was taken up by Daewoo. Any info on these engines and their reliability will be most appreciated. Thanks for your help and info. Cheers, Hari Sreedhar New Zealand ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:21:45 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Shipping a car FROM Europe At 08:50 PM 5/16/99 -0400, Christopher M. Klass wrote: >I am thinking about buying a car in the UK or France. Has anyone ever >done it? What does it cost? > >Chris >82 300SD I haven't done it since 1981... and then the car I shipped was shipped by the military... But I did look into shipping home a BMW 2000CS. Back then it would have cost about $600 US. I would deliver the car to Bremerhaven and they would have shipped it to the east coast. john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john 77 Wagoneer (SJ) - 81 MB 300D (123) - 88 wagoneer (xj) jesus, don't leave life without him, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:19:01 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: More diesel info please All I have info on is 615, 616 and other automotive Diesels, particularly the 240 and 300 series. :( Just checking your other message I see you've found the list, welcome. :) later, john At 02:52 PM 5/17/99 +1200, Hari Sreedhar wrote: >HI John, I am from New Zealand and have visited your website which has >some real interesting info on MB diesels. > >I am after info on the MB OM 661 and 662 diesel engines in terms of >specs and what their reliability and serviceability is. These were >used in the MUSSO 4x4 which were built with MB technical assistance. > >Any info will be most welcome. >Thanks for your help. >Cheers >Hari Sreedhar >Wellington >New Zealand ------------------------------------------------- diesel-at-wagoneers.com - http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps and Diesel Benz' don't rust, they mold... ------------------------------------------------- http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ (81 300D) ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:36:38 -0400 From: "S.D.Byers" Subject: Re: Shipping a car FROM Europe Well, cars are more expensive in Europe. But the shipping can be cheap, there is RO-RO service from Southampton to Newark I think. There are lots of diesels in France, if that is what you want. The major consideration is getting it into to the US. Any car less than 25 years old must comply with DOT and EPA regulations. If not it must be brought into compliance by a registered car importer (i.e. not you). Over 25 years old and it is a doddle, you just drive it in and pay the duty etc. 23 years old and the cost of all the modifications could come to to way more than the cost of the car, depending on what has to be done. BUT, there are list of cars sold abroad that are similar enough to be let in, look at those lists and see if what you want is on there. Read this page for more info: http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/imp-exp2/informal/car.htm Also note that the DOA will want you to steam clean under the car to prevent any of that nasty foreign dirt getting in and taking over the US. Because the car will be on the dock and you do not have access to it you have to pay somebody who does all this to do it on the dock, needlees to say they are in a perfect gouging position. From Canada to the US there are some exceptions, and Canada has much more lax rules, I think it is only 10 or 15 years old to get a car in there. Stories abound of people who bring something into Canada, change VINs for an older Canadian VIN and drive to the US. Or just smuggle from Canada to the US. I know many people who have imported but mainly with 25+ yo. There are people who will retitle for you in Europe so you can bring it in on 25+, but your vehicle is liable to seizure if discovered. One alternative is the kit car route. Go to france, buy your car, dismantle it completely, ship to the US in 3 or 4 different containers, reassemble and register as a kit car. This is feasible and more people do this than you think. Have fun with this: SDB On Sun, 16 May 1999, Christopher M. Klass wrote: |I am thinking about buying a car in the UK or France. Has anyone ever |done it? What does it cost? | |Chris |82 300SD | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:09:44 -0700 From: john Subject: climate control installed Just got my new climate control. $125. ($175 core, the box is in the little wagoneer and will get shipped tomorrow... :) The control is beautiful. :) All clean and everything, the buttons all work nicely... I almost didn't want to install it in the dash... I mean, it's CLEAN and new looking... :) (ok, so I'm not impressed by wood pieces... :) I took the wood trim off, removed the four screws, two connectors and four light bulbs and voila. Fired up Fritz, dialed the control to cool, it went cool, dialed the control to hot, it went hot, back to cool, cool. Cool. :) I found the whistling sound as well... Turned out I had a couple of loose fitting vacuum lines to a vent control. :) The hoses were older than my son... (he's 16). :) Have to take the little wagoneer in for a front end alignment tomorrow, so a full road test commences on Wednesday. I bought the controller from Wholesale Parts, Ltd in Atlanta, GA. Rusty Cullens Wholesale Parts Ltd., Inc. 1-800-741 5252 Atlanta, GA http://www.performanceimports.net Rusty is on the list. He emailed me off list that his business has just started selling to the public. :) I tried to contact the George Murphy that someone else suggested, but got a recording that he was out of town... that and he was $10 more too... ttyl, john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-virtual-cafe.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~john 77 Wagoneer (SJ) - 81 MB 300D (123) - 88 wagoneer (xj) jesus, don't leave life without him, please! 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