From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #183 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, August 3 1999 Volume 01 : Number 183 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: starter motor - mean green 1980 300sd questions Re: 1980 300sd questions Re: 1980 300sd questions Re: the small difference Low on fuel light - fixed Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:51:56 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: starter motor - mean green when I was editing for off-road.com one of my writers tested this motor on a 4.0L cherokee... I can find the article later, but he was impressed if memory serves me correctly... :) john On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, S.D.Byers wrote: >--> >-->More questions I am afraid, >--> >-->Now I am upgrading the starter on a 1976 300D OM617.910. >-->MG industries make nice starters. Check out their page at >-->http://www.mean-green.com/ >--> >-->I talked to them about Benz starters and they said they make a version for >-->the 1984-1989 190D models. >--> >-->The key point: Will this fit my lump of metal? (They claim all is well). >--> Has anybody done this already? >--> >--> >--> Thanks in advance for responses, >--> >--> Simon. >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA don't leave life without jesus, please... http://wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:53:50 ADT From: "Brad McCallum" Subject: 1980 300sd questions Hi there! I am considering buying a 1980 300sd and was wondering if there is a FAQ or if someone could tell me some of the quirks of these 300sd's. Presently I have a 1961 220b and love it. I have had no problems with it and am considering making my second car the 300sd. Here are some of the facts..... 1980 300sd with 385000km with a total rebuild at 130000 and a partial less than 1000km ago (block was cracked and replaced with new one) the guy is asking $6900. (cdn) which is approx $4600 (US). There are some rusty parts (holes) in the wheelwells, but otherwise not in bad shape. The car was owned by his mother and it has been maintained my the mercedes people it's entire life. The interior is mint and everything works! My question is...... This car is basically "new" with respect to engine, but I am concerned about the tranny and other rolling gear which has seen the entire 385000 km's. How do I check the tranny for future problems and possible lemons? All of the miles/kilometers are highway. I have never owned a diesel and am quite ignorant! Please fill my brain with knowledge. thanks, later, Brad 1961 220b 1978 Toyota Landcruiser FJ-40 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: 1980 300sd questions If it drives and shifts, it'll probably be fine. Look for slipping between shifts or real hard and abrupt shifts. With rust and as many miles as it has it might be a bit high in price. My 81 300D has only 134,000 miles and is probably only worth $4,500 or so... and absolutely NO rust whatsoever... The 300SD has a few more bells and whistles, longer wheelbase(?) and a turbo, right? I'd also check out the ride quality... you may end up needing new bushings and such... nice thing about Diesels, if it starts, it'll usually go. :) The term "die-hard" Diesel is not a misnomer. john On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Brad McCallum wrote: >-->Hi there! >-->I am considering buying a 1980 300sd and was wondering if there is a FAQ or >-->if someone could tell me some of the quirks of these 300sd's. >-->Presently I have a 1961 220b and love it. I have had no problems with it and >-->am considering making my second car the 300sd. >--> >-->Here are some of the facts..... >--> >-->1980 300sd with 385000km with a total rebuild at 130000 and a partial less >-->than 1000km ago (block was cracked and replaced with new one) the guy is >-->asking $6900. (cdn) which is approx $4600 (US). There are some rusty parts >-->(holes) in the wheelwells, but otherwise not in bad shape. >-->The car was owned by his mother and it has been maintained my the mercedes >-->people it's entire life. The interior is mint and everything works! >-->My question is...... >-->This car is basically "new" with respect to engine, but I am concerned about >-->the tranny and other rolling gear which has seen the entire 385000 km's. How >-->do I check the tranny for future problems and possible lemons? All of the >-->miles/kilometers are highway. >--> >-->I have never owned a diesel and am quite ignorant! Please fill my brain with >-->knowledge. >--> >-->thanks, >-->later, >-->Brad >--> >-->1961 220b >-->1978 Toyota Landcruiser FJ-40 >--> >--> >-->______________________________________________________ >-->Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA don't leave life without jesus, please... http://wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:18:57 +0200 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: 1980 300sd questions Hi Brad, if I were you I would be very careful with this car. They say it mainly got Highway miles. If it is like they say, why did the engine have to be rebuild after only 130000 km? For me this indicates that this car had a very hard time when it was younger. Hence it may not only be the engine showing wear, but also the whole driveline (trans, differential, drive shaft...). And if I think of a cracked block. The 300 models tend to crack thei cylinder heads but I have never heard of a cracked block before. The old lady driving it must have done something MB diesels don't like:-) Anyway, before you decide to buy it check it thoroughly. The only advice I can give you is a small and fast compression check. The cylinder block is said to be new. If it is done properly, the cylinders had been honed and the pistons got changed... If you look at the cylinder head cover you will find a ruber thingy coming out of it. With the engine at proper operating temperature, take this ruber tube off and put your hand on the remaining opening in the cover, trying to close it. A new engine or an engine with a very good compression (like this one shoul bve with a new block), the engine will run up to several minutes until it stalls. A good used engine will continue to run for lets say 10 seconds or so and an engine with worn pistons will stop emediatly. On this way you can checkh if the block was installed properly. Bye, Thorsten At 16:53 02.08.99 ADT, you wrote: >Hi there! >I am considering buying a 1980 300sd and was wondering if there is a FAQ or >if someone could tell me some of the quirks of these 300sd's. >Presently I have a 1961 220b and love it. I have had no problems with it and >am considering making my second car the 300sd. > >Here are some of the facts..... > >1980 300sd with 385000km with a total rebuild at 130000 and a partial less >than 1000km ago (block was cracked and replaced with new one) the guy is >asking $6900. (cdn) which is approx $4600 (US). There are some rusty parts >(holes) in the wheelwells, but otherwise not in bad shape. >The car was owned by his mother and it has been maintained my the mercedes >people it's entire life. The interior is mint and everything works! >My question is...... >This car is basically "new" with respect to engine, but I am concerned about >the tranny and other rolling gear which has seen the entire 385000 km's. How >do I check the tranny for future problems and possible lemons? All of the >miles/kilometers are highway. > >I have never owned a diesel and am quite ignorant! Please fill my brain with >knowledge. > >thanks, >later, >Brad > >1961 220b >1978 Toyota Landcruiser FJ-40 > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:25:18 +0200 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: the small difference Hm hm, I guess my car is neither male nor female. I think I will simply call it "my car" like I always did. Besides, this name is great, it is easy to remember and everyone knows what I am talking about:-) Thorsten with "my car" At 11:40 01.08.99 -0700, you wrote: > >Fritz... not Frisky... :) > >"Fritz" because of all the electrical and vacuum challenges I've >faced... :) > >john > >At 12:08 AM 8/1/99 -0500, Jon Filina wrote: >>Thorsten became confused and asked: >> >>> after this tinted glass question I have a very important one. John calls >>> his car Fritz, Jon has his Mathilde... Now tell me, are MB's male or >>> female? >> >>It depends on how much attention your MB requires: Little=Male Lots=Female >> >>If this list has any female subscribers, I am now in deep doo-doo... >> >>My 240D acquired the name "Mathilde" early on. She is a bit stodgy, slow to >>get going, but she is a classy looking old lady. She's also very forgiving, >>otherwise "Brunhilde" would have ended up being her name! >> >>John's "Fritz", on the other hand, has an extra 600 cc of testosterone. >>He's apparently pretty frisky about town and occasionally lives up to his >>name.... >> >>>I 've been searching for the "small difference" on my car but >>> could not find it (maybe I don't have enough imagination? Viagra might >>help >>> the last part of the exhaust go up straight again and not pointing down >>> like it does.........) >> >>Hehehehehe....sounds like "Peter the not so great".... >> >>Just tryin' ta help ya out... >> >>Jon >> >> >----------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >----------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:05:40 +0200 From: "Pieter Noorlander" Subject: Low on fuel light - fixed Never would have thought I would be glad to see that I was low on fuel :) Thanks to everyone who helped, you are real friends in need. Groeten uit Holland, Pieter '83 300TD (Hermann) pieter-at-mbz.org You can pay Hermann a visit at: http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/300td831.htm (Courtesy Peter R. Hacker, Willow Park, Texas) ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #183 *********************************