From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #188 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 188 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? 116 a/c parts Re: 116 a/c parts RE: 116 a/c parts RE: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? Re: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? Re: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:04:01 -0700 From: Farnes_Quinn Subject: RE: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? As long as you're at it, I have been wondering why the engine stalls if you plug the breather tube. q. > -----Original Message----- > From: john [SMTP:john-at-virtual-cafe.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:51 AM > To: Thorsten Windhues > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? > > > Thorsten, > > Can you explain where this plug or hose is? I'm > not clear on it. I'd like to run this test on Fritz. :) > > Maybe we should take a picture of this and write a page and > put it on my server... :) > > john > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Thorsten Windhues wrote: > > >-->Hi Brad, > >--> > >-->I think the unknown person from Europe was me. 7 seconds for this test > is a > >-->normal result for a used engine. Totally worn engines will stall after > two > >-->or three more strokes after closing this opening, new ones will > continue > >-->to run for up to a minute. My car, a 200D, needs about those 7 > minutes, as > >-->well, and the compression is good enough to start it in every weather > under > >-->every condition. The oil consumption is so little... > >--> > >-->Bye, > >--> > >-->Thorsten Windhues > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->At 21:49 09.08.99 ADT, you wrote: > >-->>Hi there, I am planning to get a diesel benz and I was wondering what > > >-->>diagnostic tests I can perform in the driveway. > >-->>Someone E-mailed me about plugging the black hose on the valve cover, > but > >-->>I've forgoten the name of the person (from europe) and how long it > can be > >-->>plugged before the engine dies. I deleted the message it got purged > out of > >-->>my trash bin. > >-->>The 1982 240d I was looking at began to stall after ~7 seconds. Is > that > >-->>good/bad?? > >-->> > >-->>thank's for the info and any other stuff I can use. > >-->> > >-->>later, > >-->>Brad > >-->> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA > don't leave life without jesus, please... > http://wagoneers.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:13:04 -0400 From: "JohnHoverson" Subject: 116 a/c parts I am contemplating fixing my a/c system. It has not worked in at least 10 years, I know the compressor is shot. I was wondering if I should buy a compressor and reciver dryer, replace all the o-rings for r-134 evacuate and charge with dye and look for leaks or just start new with hoses, evaporator etc.I'm in the process of converting my son's 318 BMW, almost as nice to work on as my '79 300SD. Thanks John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: 116 a/c parts the 134 conversion kit available at most parts stores and JC Whitney didn't require changing o-rings, etc. The oil charge that's installed first is an esther baseed? and I guess makes the system tolerant of 134. My system had leaked down over the winter so I just added it straight away, no purging or evacuation! It's still blowing 39 degrees F regardless of outside air temp... pump still works and everything. :) john On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, JohnHoverson wrote: >-->I am contemplating fixing my a/c system. It has not worked in at least 10 >-->years, I know the compressor is shot. I was wondering if I should buy a >-->compressor and reciver dryer, replace all the o-rings for r-134 evacuate and >-->charge with dye and look for leaks or just start new with hoses, evaporator >-->etc.I'm in the process of converting my son's 318 BMW, almost as nice to >-->work on as my '79 300SD. Thanks John >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA don't leave life without jesus, please... http://wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:33:09 -0700 From: Farnes_Quinn Subject: RE: 116 a/c parts For what it's worth, check out http://www.epatest.com/manual609.html for a wealth of information about automotive air conditioning practice. Quinn > -----Original Message----- > From: john [SMTP:john-at-virtual-cafe.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 2:23 PM > To: JohnHoverson > Cc: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: 116 a/c parts > > > the 134 conversion kit available at most parts stores and JC Whitney > didn't require changing o-rings, etc. The oil charge that's installed > first is an esther baseed? and I guess makes the system tolerant > of 134. My system had leaked down over the winter so I just added > it straight away, no purging or evacuation! It's still blowing 39 degrees > F > regardless of outside air temp... pump still works and everything. > > :) > john > > On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, JohnHoverson wrote: > > >-->I am contemplating fixing my a/c system. It has not worked in at least > 10 > >-->years, I know the compressor is shot. I was wondering if I should buy > a > >-->compressor and reciver dryer, replace all the o-rings for r-134 > evacuate and > >-->charge with dye and look for leaks or just start new with hoses, > evaporator > >-->etc.I'm in the process of converting my son's 318 BMW, almost as nice > to > >-->work on as my '79 300SD. Thanks John > >--> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA > don't leave life without jesus, please... > http://wagoneers.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:41:00 +0200 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: RE: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? At 09:04 11.08.99 -0700, you wrote: >As long as you're at it, I have been wondering why the engine stalls if you >plug the breather tube. Hi Farnes, this is very easy to understand. If the piston rings are worn, bypass gasese will collect outside of the combustion chamber. These gases build up a pressure that eventually will get that high that it hinders the pistons going down after ignition of the fuel-air mixture. The result is a stalling engine. The more the engine is worn, the faster will this pressure be build up. Thorsten ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:43:46 +0200 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? At 08:50 11.08.99 -0700, you wrote: > >Thorsten, > >Can you explain where this plug or hose is? I'm >not clear on it. I'd like to run this test on Fritz. :) > >Maybe we should take a picture of this and write a page and >put it on my server... :) > >john Hi John, the cylinder head cover has only two openings. The big one is where you add oil during an oil change, the second smaller one is right behind the bigger one and is connected to the air filter housing. Thorsten ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: Buying a diesel....what to look for?? On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Thorsten Windhues wrote: >-->At 08:50 11.08.99 -0700, you wrote: >-->> >-->>Thorsten, >-->> >-->>Can you explain where this plug or hose is? I'm >-->>not clear on it. I'd like to run this test on Fritz. :) >-->> >-->>Maybe we should take a picture of this and write a page and >-->>put it on my server... :) >-->> >-->>john >--> >-->Hi John, >--> >-->the cylinder head cover has only two openings. The big one is where you add >-->oil during an oil change, the second smaller one is right behind the bigger >-->one and is connected to the air filter housing. the oil breather tube? If you plug that it'll kill the engine???? john >--> >-->Thorsten >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** Snohomish, Washington USA don't leave life without jesus, please... http://wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #188 *********************************