From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #254 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, December 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 254 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: W123-617 tach installation braking news... :) insurance! Re: braking news... :) Re: braking news... :) Re: braking news... :) Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:40:51 +0100 From: "Pieter Noorlander" Subject: Re: W123-617 tach installation Thanks for the info Mark! Pieter - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Fountain To: Pieter Noorlander Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 2:19 AM Subject: Re: W123-617 (was 110) tach installation > Hi Pieter, and greetings from Portland, Oregon, USA! > I happen to own an 82 300D turbo Diesel and have done some investigation on how > the tach works since mine is currently not working. Anyway, there is a sensor > which picks up a signal from a magnet on the balancer wheel at the front of the > engine. This sensor is mounted on the engine block next to the vacuum pump. The > signal is fed to a control box that electronically controls the tach needle. I > was under the impression that this was standard equipment on w123s of that > vintage. It seems that it would be possible to obtain parts from a salvage > 300D, for insance, which would most certainly fit your vehicle with some minor > adaptation. Not sure if the gasoline engine models are like this. > > Have fun! > Mark > > Pieter Noorlander wrote: > > > Has anybody done this for a 300D (non-turbo)? > > My '83 300TD has the big clock assembly now, but I would like to know if it > > is possible to fit the tach/clock unit. Is there a special unit for the > > diesels, or is is the same for all W123's? > > I'm really curious about how few revs it makes at 50km/h in 4th gear :) > > > > Groeten uit Holland, > > Pieter > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Live slow, die old. Drive a Diesel-Benz. > > Pieter Noorlander pieter-at-mbz.org '83 300TD > > http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/300td831.htm > > (Courtesy Peter R. Hacker, Willow Park, Texas) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:04:52 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: braking news... :) heading out to work on my J10 now that i fixed the brakes on fritz... (I hope). (the right rear disk has been dragging, crude in the cylinder... so I pulled the brake hose and pushed the cylinder in and then bleed it several times... lots of crude in the one man brake bleeder tool... If that doesn't fix it I'll have to spend a few bucks ($45 to $130) on a new caliper... :) (price range is aftermarket to benz original... :) I'm thinking of insuring Fritz with a Collector Car insurance outfit. They limit you to 3 to 6K miles a year, no youthful drivers, etc. but the initial quote I got, with a value of about $4k insured value, came to only $139 a YEAR! Compared to the 500 or 600 I'm paying now that's good news. Gonna switch primary insurance companies on my other rigs and will save about another $300! This way I'll be able to keep Fritz on the road, as well as the 83 J10 Stepside and the little wagoneer... and my daughter's buick (she pays that ), and then my son's 67 J3000... what gets me though is they won't insure the 67 Jeep! (the collector car outfit...) They'll insure a vehicle that is a dime a dozen with millions produced... :) but the really rare rig they won't touch... :) oh well... back to wrenching on the stepside... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 21:05:30 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: insurance! I'm thinking of insuring Fritz with a Collector Car insurance outfit. They limit you to 3 to 6K miles a year, no youthful drivers, etc. but the initial quote I got, with a value of about $4k insured value, came to only $139 a YEAR! Compared to the 500 or 600 I'm paying now that's good news. Gonna switch primary insurance companies on my other rigs and will save about another $300! This way I'll be able to keep Fritz on the road, as well as the 83 J10 Stepside and the little wagoneer... and my daughter's buick (she pays that ), and then my son's 67 J3000... what gets me though is they won't insure the 67 Jeep! (the collector car outfit...) They'll insure a vehicle that is a dime a dozen with millions produced... :) but the really rare rig they won't touch... :) oh well... back to wrenching on the stepside... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 01:41:05 -0600 From: "Jon Filina" Subject: Re: braking news... :) John broke the silence and sent the following: > heading out to work on my J10 now that i fixed the brakes on fritz... (I hope). > (the right rear disk has been dragging, crude in the cylinder... so I > pulled the brake hose and pushed the cylinder in and then bleed it several > times... lots of crude in the one man brake bleeder tool... If that doesn't > fix it I'll have to spend a few bucks ($45 to $130) on a new caliper... :) > (price range is aftermarket to benz original... :) I assume you mean you are getting "crud" when you bleed the brakes vs. "crude" (oil).... Mathilde has greeted me this holiday season with another caliper going south... My right rear is leaking like a sieve! I'm taking her in Monday to see if it can be rebuilt. This year it's the right rear, last year is was the right front. And, just in case I wasn't paying her enough attention, she decided to turn on her battery light... The idiot light is glowing, not solid. It doesn't vary with engine speed. I suspected the brushes in the alternator, but haven't put my meter on it to check. Last nite, before I left the office, I put the company's 40 amp charger on her. It started out at 30 amps and came to a halt on 10. The headlights were just as bright when I got her home, 50 miles later, as they were when I left. That included 20 minutes or so of rain! I put her on the charger this afternoon for about 1/2 hour. The 10 amp charger had worked it's way down to 5 amps when I unplugged it. A little while later, I plugged it in again and it started off at 8 amps... I am starting to suspect the battery is going south. I'll put my meter on it in the morning and confirm if she is, in fact, charging. If this was my VW Jetta, I'd be replacing the battery. While the MB has a Bosch alternator, it may not react the same as the VW's do, so I'm not going to jump the gun before I do a bit more checking. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 23:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: braking news... :) On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Jon Filina wrote: >-->John broke the silence and sent the following: >-->I assume you mean you are getting "crud" when you bleed the brakes vs. >-->"crude" (oil).... rofl... yeah, that's right... :) will test it on the drive to church in the morning... hopefully I got all the sludge, crude, crud, rust and stray kittens out of that caliper... :) otherwise I'll swap that puppy out. :) >-->Mathilde has greeted me this holiday season with another caliper going >-->south... My right rear is leaking like a sieve! I'm taking her in Monday >-->to see if it can be rebuilt. This year it's the right rear, last year is >-->was the right front. I'm gonna test out my new supplier if I buy a new one... If they're good I'll be able to "retail" 'em for half of what the dealer charges.. I haven't had time to contact rusty for a price quote... finding time to get near a phone during the day is as hard as finding time to work on my rigs... no, harder... >-->And, just in case I wasn't paying her enough attention, she decided to turn >-->on her battery light... The idiot light is glowing, not solid. It doesn't >-->vary with engine speed. I suspected the brushes in the alternator, but >-->haven't put my meter on it to check. Last nite, before I left the office, I >-->put the company's 40 amp charger on her. It started out at 30 amps and came >-->to a halt on 10. The headlights were just as bright when I got her home, 50 >-->miles later, as they were when I left. That included 20 minutes or so of >-->rain! you get rain too? :) see: http://www.wagoneers.com/john/HUMOR/rain.txt >-->I put her on the charger this afternoon for about 1/2 hour. The 10 amp >-->charger had worked it's way down to 5 amps when I unplugged it. A little >-->while later, I plugged it in again and it started off at 8 amps... I am >-->starting to suspect the battery is going south. I'll put my meter on it in >-->the morning and confirm if she is, in fact, charging. You could have lost a diode in your alternator too... my Olds Diesel had that glowing symptom when I lost one... >-->If this was my VW Jetta, I'd be replacing the battery. While the MB has a >-->Bosch alternator, it may not react the same as the VW's do, so I'm not going >-->to jump the gun before I do a bit more checking. I'd have someone through a tester on the alternator... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 11:45:24 -0600 From: Jason Zolghadr Subject: Re: braking news... :) >to only $139 a YEAR! Compared to the 500 or 600 I'm paying now that's >good news. Gonna switch primary insurance companies on my other rigs >and will save about another $300! Compared to the $160 a MONTH I'm paying right now, that sounds pretty good! (and this is with no tickets, no accidents) - -Jason Zolghadr "Call you out our name...but be forwarned, dear" ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #254 *********************************