From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #260 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, January 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 260 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: administrivia: notes on using this list looks like we made it... Sound Shield Re: Sound Shield need some info... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 01:45:01 -0500 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 11/19/1999, rpw; new special note relating to messagemedia] Special Notes 1) messagemedia.com apparently has, via their unitymail.net subsidiary, commenced dictionary attacks on mail servers in order to mine for addresses for spamming purposes, recently performing such an attack for Fidelity Investments. I have accordingly blocked the entire ip address range for messagemedia.com from accessing the mail server. Since my 401k is restricted to Fidelity Mutual Funds, I am undecided at the present time about the nature of appropriate action, but I will probably block Fidelity IP addresses as well. 2) Compuserve has had several mail relays added to the Relay Spam Stopper; for this reason, Compuserve customers may have difficulty sending email to the server. The proper solution for this problem is for Compuserve to fix their mail servers; however, at this time they have no plan to do so. Compuserve customers should direct their concerns to Compuserve support. Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. 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Additionally, the "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net are now visible at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Finally, some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:38:58 -0800 From: john Subject: looks like we made it... welcome 2000. going wheeling in the morning... snow level is down to 2,500 or less :) (this will be Mark's first time 4 wheeling (that is while driving)... we'll be taking the little wagoneer... wife is coming too... should be an interesting adventure... :) (I was kind of hoping to take the Stepside out to play in the snow... oh well, maybe on the way to work Monday... :) and down here in the "valley": (The rain will be lighter Sunday. There is a chance of wet snowflakes mixing with rain showers late Sunday night and early Monday morning. ) yes! :) john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:05:05 -0800 From: GRRueger Subject: Sound Shield Happy New Year! Hello- My name is Glenn, I'm new to this list, love my '83 240D (290,500 miles) and have a question: Anyone here tried the Sound Shield? It's a soft hi-temp/fibreglass insert you drop in along the firewall or somewhere behind the engine. They say it really cuts down cabin noise. I had the URL for it but seem to have lost it and can't find it . The email for questions/ordering is: Psbprod-at-aol.com I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried it before I plunk down US$72 on it. Seems a little odd doesn't it? ___ GRR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 10:58:01 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Sound Shield This came up once before. I've been playing around with some sound proofing foam in Fritz (my 81 300d). I really can't make it make any difference and the hassle of trying to attach pieces of foam in the shape they have makes the money they're asking seem fine if it really works... I don't find the noise level of my 300D all that bad... but quieter would be cool... john At 09:05 AM 1/1/00 -0800, GRRueger wrote: >Happy New Year! > >Hello- My name is Glenn, I'm new to this list, love my '83 240D (290,500 miles) >and have a question: Anyone here tried the Sound Shield? It's a soft >hi-temp/fibreglass insert you drop in along the firewall or somewhere behind the >engine. They say it really cuts down cabin noise. I had the URL for it but seem >to have lost it and can't find it . The email for questions/ordering is: > >Psbprod-at-aol.com > >I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried it before I plunk down US$72 on it. >Seems a little odd doesn't it? > >___ >GRR > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 23:24:11 -0800 From: john Subject: need some info... I'm looking for information for the book I'm working on... prices of stuff like bread, milk, gas and so on... from 1962 (November) through 1992, or even the present. I found gas prices from 1974 until 1996... also minimum wages... What I hope to do is identify relative costs for each year of the SJ model Jeeps... I'd also like the list prices of Mercedes and other cars for those years as well as the Wagoneer... I've got a smattering of information and hope to compile a complete list... (actually I may have the list prices of the Mercedes in a book...) Also looking for a summary of significant historical items for each of those years... My current thought is to highlight each model year of the Jeeps and include some history and pictures of individual rigs from each of those years. I figure someone with a 65 Wagoneer would find it interesting to see one of the same year, as opposed to glumping all rigs together into one section... :) Just a crazy thought... may be unworkable... hard to say. thanx, john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com 88 wagoneer ltd (xj) / 83 J10 Stepside (SJ) 81 300D (123) / 67 J3000 (SJ) http://www.wagoneers.com/book-info.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #260 *********************************