From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #286 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, March 7 2000 Volume 01 : Number 286 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Best Manual for '83 240D Re: Best Manual for '83 240D W124c airbag maintenance question Tightening the passenger assist handle in a W124c Re: W124c airbag maintenance question Re: Best Manual for '83 240D National PRO-OHV Call-in Day Set For Tuesday March 7th handling mods... trip to Orlando - April 15 through April 22 Re: W124c airbag maintenance question what to do... imminent rear-end collision Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:42:19 +0100 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: Best Manual for '83 240D Yap, all the tools i have use the metric system, everything I buy uses it, as well. I would be too much work to recalculate every number of the US manuals. Thorsten At 10:06 04.03.00 -0800, you wrote: >definetly "English", although obviously translated and not smoothly in >some cases either. :) > >Isn't SI in degrees C, Nm, cm, mm, bar and all those metric looking >things... > >:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:44:13 +0100 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: Best Manual for '83 240D Hi Jon, I know that the Haynes manual is not perfect. But although it might have some mistakes in it, it still is the best I have, much better than it's german aquivalents. Bye, Thorsten At 21:46 05.03.00 -0600, you wrote: >I've lost the original message, but Thorsten mentioned that he liked the >Haynes manuals because they were based on a complete teardown of the cars >covered. > >I understand that this is true, but evidently the crew at Haynes has to take >a break and think about the best way to proceed. If you have the MB Diesel >123's manual, turn to page 212 and look at figure 17.3 which shows the radio >retaining screws. > >This procedure took at least 2 cigarettes to figure out..... > >I also noticed that there was no ashtray R & R section. They had obviously >misplaced it as is suggested by figure 17.3. ;-) > >Jon > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:03:16 -0600 From: Alec Cordova Subject: W124c airbag maintenance question The manual in my 89 300CE mentions replacing the driver's airbag after a certain period of time. The sticker on the driver's door jam says I should have serviced it last spring. I realize this was probably Mercedes being over protective, so what is the list advice on replacement of the driver's airbag? Definitely replace it after ten years? What is a replacement or servicing of that airbag likely to cost? That will probably be the true determination of the need to get this work done. Thanks, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 96K, I STILL look damn good in this car 85 300DT, <200K, taking a vacation now that baby brother has arrived 97 Z3 1.9, 90K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:07:06 -0600 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Tightening the passenger assist handle in a W124c Another maintenance question on my new-to-me 89 300CE. The assist handle above the front passenger window feels kind of loose. Can this be retightened? How? Thanks, Alec Cordova Taylor, texas 89 300CE, 96K, forcing me to drive with a heavy foot just so I can start in first 85 300DT, <200K, always uses all four gears 97 Z3 1.9, 90K, solve the too-smart-for-its-own-good tranny by getting a stick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:41:43 -0500 From: "Alexander Kowalski" Subject: Re: W124c airbag maintenance question I believe Mercedes amended the required airbag service to a 15 year interval. Double check with your dealer, they will give you a new service sticker for the glovebox. Apparently this service requires the replacement of the airbag module, i.e. mucho$$$$. I suspect around the 1K range, but not sure. The obvious risk of not getting it "serviced" is the possibility the airbag will not deploy or won't deploy properly when required. Ultimately it is your call. Alex - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- The Poor Man's Mercedes Newsletter http://www.mercedesdot.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alec Cordova To: Diesel-Benz List (E-mail) ; Mercedes List (E-mail) Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: W124c airbag maintenance question > The manual in my 89 300CE mentions replacing the driver's airbag after a > certain period of time. The sticker on the driver's door jam says I should > have serviced it last spring. > > I realize this was probably Mercedes being over protective, so what is the > list advice on replacement of the driver's airbag? Definitely replace it > after ten years? > > What is a replacement or servicing of that airbag likely to cost? That will > probably be the true determination of the need to get this work done. > > Thanks, > Alec Cordova > Taylor, Texas > 89 300CE, 96K, I STILL look damn good in this car > 85 300DT, <200K, taking a vacation now that baby brother has arrived > 97 Z3 1.9, 90K > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:03:46 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Best Manual for '83 240D I can believe that. :) We have two major manuals available, chiltons and haynes... used to have clymer too, haven't seen 'em for a bit. Chiltons used to be very good, they aren't anymore... Haynes is occassionaly pretty good. But nothing beats a factory manual, even if it is poorly translated... ;) john At 01:44 PM 3/6/00 +0100, Thorsten Windhues wrote: >Hi Jon, > >I know that the Haynes manual is not perfect. But although it might have >some mistakes in it, it still is the best I have, much better than it's >german aquivalents. > >Bye, > >Thorsten > > > > > > > >At 21:46 05.03.00 -0600, you wrote: >>I've lost the original message, but Thorsten mentioned that he liked the >>Haynes manuals because they were based on a complete teardown of the cars >>covered. >> >>I understand that this is true, but evidently the crew at Haynes has to take >>a break and think about the best way to proceed. If you have the MB Diesel >>123's manual, turn to page 212 and look at figure 17.3 which shows the radio >>retaining screws. >> >>This procedure took at least 2 cigarettes to figure out..... >> >>I also noticed that there was no ashtray R & R section. They had obviously >>misplaced it as is suggested by figure 17.3. ;-) >> >>Jon >> >> >> >> >> > > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:50:08 -0800 From: john Subject: National PRO-OHV Call-in Day Set For Tuesday March 7th please pass along... john Subject: National PRO-OHV Call-in Day Set For Tuesday March 7th http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/09inews/000303a.html - ---------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.freegift.net/ - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:26:40 -0800 From: john Subject: handling mods... from the same site that brought us the 50 HP improvement... (not sure if this was already posted or not, so I'll keep it short.) john http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/mycoffeecan/wheels.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:40:45 -0800 From: john Subject: trip to Orlando - April 15 through April 22 I'm heading down to Orlando for a Linux training class offered by HP. I leave Seattle Saturday April 15, retun Saturday April 22. I'll be staying at my folks house in Apopka most of the time, but will be at the Wellesley Inn for the nights of the Linux class (Sun through Tuesday night). I'll have Sunday, Thursday and Friday pretty much open, unless my folks figure out something before I do. :) I may try to get over to Cocoa Beach/Melbourne to see my sister. Will have my laptop and cameras. Maybe I'll be able to get some updated shots of doc and Timex. :) john meister - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com HP-UX, Solaris, Linux http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/ http://wagoneers.com/pages/ComputerSurvival-101.html http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/LINUX/year-of-the-penguin.html - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:21:51 +0100 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: W124c airbag maintenance question Don't know anything about servicing airbags, but if it is necessary and gets too expensive, it might be a good idea to disable it before it hurts you in an accident more than it will help. Thorsten At 09:03 06.03.00 -0600, you wrote: >The manual in my 89 300CE mentions replacing the driver's airbag after a >certain period of time. The sticker on the driver's door jam says I should >have serviced it last spring. > >I realize this was probably Mercedes being over protective, so what is the >list advice on replacement of the driver's airbag? Definitely replace it >after ten years? > >What is a replacement or servicing of that airbag likely to cost? That will >probably be the true determination of the need to get this work done. > >Thanks, >Alec Cordova >Taylor, Texas >89 300CE, 96K, I STILL look damn good in this car >85 300DT, <200K, taking a vacation now that baby brother has arrived >97 Z3 1.9, 90K > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:36:50 -0800 From: john Subject: what to do... imminent rear-end collision I was sitting in traffic the other day at a light that is on a road with a 60mph speed limit... thinking about "what if someone was asleep at the switch and couldn't stop in time"... so I asked a chiropractor friend what the best thing to do if you know you're gonna get rear ended and have no place to go... (I've had whiplash before and it is NOT fun. I'm thankful for chiropractic care combined with massage therapy because it relieved the pain within a reasonable time... sure beat wearing a silly cervical collar too.) Anyway, here's what he said: answer:b (slouch down in your seat so your head is pressed against the back of the seat...) - ----- Original Message ----- > What is the best position to assume if you have > time to react to a rear end collision? > >a.) laying across the seat sideways? >b.) slouching down so your head is pressed against the back of the seat? >c.) laying across the steering wheel? john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #286 *********************************