From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #290 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, March 14 2000 Volume 01 : Number 290 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: Turbo diesel engine swap for body 123; 124; 126 & 280GE Station (Jeep 4x4 model) Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? liners and rings Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:03:44 +0700 From: SiregarAbdi-at-tpj.co.id Subject: Turbo diesel engine swap for body 123; 124; 126 & 280GE Station (Jeep 4x4 model) Hi guys, I have Mercedes Benz 123; 124; 126 & 280GE station (Jeep 4x4 model) gasoline engine, I would like to swap the original engine (gasoline) with turbo diesel (is better with intercooler) 6 cylinders, built year 1992 onward, automatic gearbox, is any one could advise me what type/code number engine is suitable/match with its respectively frame/chassis or without many modification to the position engine mounting? I prefer if the output power is more than 160 HP, some one advised me, the best one is from 300SD year built 1995, engine code number OM 606 because the vibration and the noise is very low. Or is there any websites that explaining the completed specification of the Mercedes Benz turbo diesel engine? If I swap the original gasoline engine from 280GE Station (Jeep 4x4 model) with the turbo diesel engine 6 cylinders, is it necessary to have an adaptor to plug with its original transfer case. Furthermore, is anyone has e-mail address of some suppliers/worshops that could supply in continous basis the above turbo diesel engine with used condition or rebuilt in Holland, Germany, Belgium, UK, USA and Australia? Thank you. Regards, Abdi Siregar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:19:39 +0100 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? ... >Product range is at www.espar.com I think. > >Prices in Germany are more like 1400 DM (~700USD) for a D5W. >I am buying one for my 300D within the next few weeks via this route. > > SDB 1400 DM seems to be a bit too low. I am not sure but I think prices are about 2000 DM (1000 USD). But I will check it out today at our local Bosch station and will let you know tomorrow. Maybe you should wait until june before ordering, auxiliary heatings are usually on sale at that time. And if there are more members on this list that want to buy one, you might get a rebate for ordering more than one. Thorsten ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:20:53 -0500 From: "S.D.Byers" Subject: Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? I need one this week really, or just after. I am plumbing my truck now. I just had my german friend go shopping for me, I would be buying it tax free and possibly at a workshop discount. SDB On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Thorsten Windhues wrote: |... |>Product range is at www.espar.com I think. |> |>Prices in Germany are more like 1400 DM (~700USD) for a D5W. |>I am buying one for my 300D within the next few weeks via this route. |> |> SDB | | |1400 DM seems to be a bit too low. I am not sure but I think prices are |about 2000 DM (1000 USD). But I will check it out today at our local Bosch |station and will let you know tomorrow. Maybe you should wait until june |before ordering, auxiliary heatings are usually on sale at that time. And |if there are more members on this list that want to buy one, you might get |a rebate for ordering more than one. | |Thorsten | | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:34:38 -0800 From: Daniel A Jacobs Subject: Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? > Other tricks used to prevent gelling is to mix 1 gallon of regular > gas > with 20 gallons of Diesel, or to use Kerosene... and of course there > are additives... Do not mix gas with diesel unless you absolutely have _no_ other alternatives available to run the motor. Gasoline should be avoided in diesel engines, and if used should be very small amounts and only until you can get more good diesel. Also, most places that sell diesel in very cold areas have premixed a cold weather fuel conditioner with their fuel already, or they wouldn't be able to pump it out of their tanks. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:30:08 -0800 From: Daniel A Jacobs Subject: Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? > Hm, a block heater? I was going to get one but then I thought that I > won't > have a garage and can't plug it in. And what is #1 fuel? Even though I live in (relatively) balmy Vancouver USA, I plug my '79 300D in every night, and it is not garaged. I have an extension cord that is rated to carry the proper capacity and is made of materials (plastics) that remain flexible down to -10F. I don't think a battery heater would be necessary if the engine block heater worked well. #1 Diesel fuel is a mixtures of #2 or unmixed diesel and kerosene. The kerosene helps to keep the fuel from hardening like gelatin when the temp dips below 5F. It would not be necessary to pay the extra for #1 if you used a quality fuel conditioner/anti-gel. I have used a product called Howes Lubricator fuel conditioner for years. It has kept my car running in -30F temps. It also helps keep the fuel system clean. Many other Products for sale make these claims, and they probably do a good job, but Howes Guarantees their product, or the will pay the tow charges if the fuel gels up. Their URL is http://www.thomasregister.com/olc/howeslube/home.htm Their guarantee is very simple: Buy a case of the diesel fuel conditioner (the large bottles go a long way and take up little room in the trunk), send in the card you'll find in the case to register your vehicle, and if the fuel gels while using their product, the will reimburse the tow charges to get your vehicle to a warm shop to thaw the fuel. Dan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:51:49 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Anyone from Montana on this list? this is a good point... if the gas doesn't mix properly you could have a chunk of molten scrap metal under the hood. :) using a 1:20 mixture is pretty safe. Here in Western Washington and Oregon finding #1 when the temp drops is really, really hard. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I've done it a number of times without problems... john At 11:34 AM 3/13/00 -0800, Daniel A Jacobs wrote: > > >> Other tricks used to prevent gelling is to mix 1 gallon of regular >> gas >> with 20 gallons of Diesel, or to use Kerosene... and of course there >> are additives... > >Do not mix gas with diesel unless you absolutely have _no_ other >alternatives available to run the motor. Gasoline should be avoided in >diesel engines, and if used should be very small amounts and only until >you can get more good diesel. > >Also, most places that sell diesel in very cold areas have premixed a >cold weather fuel conditioner with their fuel already, or they wouldn't >be able to pump it out of their tanks. >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:53:20 -0500 From: "S.D.Byers" Subject: liners and rings Has anybody ever changed the liners and rings on an OM617 without removing the engine? I am planning to pop off the bottom part there, and probably the head, and just redo the liners and rings to get compression back up to over 320 psi. I am not even sure it is possible but it would be neat, doable in the field even. Get the parts drop shipped to wherever I am etc etc. Thanks, SDB ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #290 *********************************