From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-krusty-motorsports.com Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #322 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Friday, May 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 322 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: re: Los Alamos update... Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... Re: Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... Question re timing belt/timing chain Question re Performance Chips garage update... reporting from Snohomish... Re: Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... new look... RE: New Virus 300SD 116s for sale another new look... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:17:38 -0700 From: john Subject: re: Los Alamos update... >Subject: xj: Re: XJ: Los Alamos >>> John; Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. Yeah, that was me that sent >you the freon last year. >> We just got back home after being allowed back into >> town, and by the sheer grace of God, we suffered no loss. There are 400+ >> families displaced, and the once-beautiful mountains are now black. >>There are a couple other XJ-'listers in the area, Dallas and Mike, Glad to hear you're ok! Just think how green those hills will be very soon... or does it not work like that down there? After a burn up here the hills get to be very green as the grasses take off... Of course fires like this don't occur very often on this side... hard to get this stuff dry enough... usually it happens in late August/September during our "dry season". :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/johnsjeeps.jpg SuperDawg, SuperPup (the little wagoneer), and the J3000 ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ------- ...be thou neither a sender nor a receiver of attachments... ...if thou usest a microsoft operating system or email program... ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:05:40 -0700 From: Richard J Laue Subject: Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... I assume by now everyone has heard about the new, low-sulfer regs coming down the pike for diesel fuel. Any thoughts on whether MB engines from the mid-80's will be okay with low-sulfer fuel? Cheers - RJLaue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:43:17 -0700 From: Richard J Laue Subject: Re: Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... Well, as a follow-up to my own question, I called the MB dealer here in Tucson, Arizona. The service manager, as it turns out, is very diesel-literate, having owned several himself! His opinion is that all MB diesel engines - older ones as well as the newer ones - will be just fine under the new standards. As he pointed out, Europe has had low-sulfer fuel for ages now, and in any event, he thinks that as the sulfer gets cut down, the refiners will simply add some kind of compensatory lubricant. He also pointed out that it's been many years now since MB diesel engines have relied on sulfer in the fuel as a lubricant - when European fuel reduced sulfer contents, engines were redesigned to compensate, just like gasoline engines no longer depend on lead for any lubrication. I asked him specifically if there were any other components in the engine that might be affected by a reformulated diesel fuel, and he said "no." In fact, he said, lower sulfer fuel will probably INCREASE the life expectancy of some things, like exhaust pipes and mufflers, by cutting down on the corrosion caused by sulfer residue mixing with moisture, causing sulfuric acid. All in all, good news. Cheers - RJLaue - ------------------------ Richard J Laue PO Box 42045 Tucson AZ 85733-2045 520-327-8460 rjlaue-at-tucsonmug.org - ------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:05:05 -0700 From: Richard J Laue Subject: Question re timing belt/timing chain On the VW-TDI list, everyone is griping about the need to change the timing belt every 40,000 miles (at a cost of $300-400). What's the deal with MB diesels - specifically the 1987 190d 2.5 turbodiesel? Doesn't it use a chain rather than a belt? What the intervals for changing it? Any rough estimate of the cost? Thanks - RJLaue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:09:35 -0700 From: Richard J Laue Subject: Question re Performance Chips On the VW-TDI list, a hot topic is swapping out the ECU chip for an after-market performance chip. Is this a reasonable thing for MB diesel engines? I notice that Wetterauer (the chip manufacturer) lists quite a few MB engines in its catalog. Unfortunately, they don't list engines from the mid-to-late '80s -- is this because those engines didn't use Electronic Control Units? Thanks - RJLaue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: garage update... reporting from Snohomish... The negotiations continue... with the wife that is. :) Garden vs. garage vs. going into debt vs. fighting the county... a couple ideas include pouring a slab on the easement and making a garage that sits on skids... with hooks on the front... if they force me to evacuate the easement I hook up Superdawg (and maybe Superpup too) and slide the structure onto my driveway and off the easement... the main problem, once again, is making something the wife likes, and, oh yeah, coming up the money for the materials. :) The saga continues... Much the way it has for the last 25 years, which is fine, wouldn't have it any other way. :) Oh, another interesting wrinkle... my wife suggested that I just get a vehicle that I don't need to work on... :) Of course the $30K plus for a Dodge Cummins TD, or the $40K for a WJ or a Benz TD didn't fly... ;) She mentioned something under $20K... I'm still dealing with sticker shock on that one. :) Our first house didn't cost that much... I paid a tenth of that for my last decent FSJ... and not much more than a tenth for my last Benz! In the meantime I've been working on a new look for wagoneers.com. When you go to http://www.wagoneers.com you'll hit a smaller, lighter page with links. If you want the original style I'll have a link to http://www.wagoneers.com/README.html so you won't miss anything. I even made some smaller images for the page... let me know what you think... I'm gonna add some javascript pulldowns as well... I may even do some mouse over stuff... I'm doing all my coding in vi in the korn shell... real men use vi. :) I know there are some cool html programs, but some of them produce some really ugly code... ;) My server is becoming like an ancient Tell. A mound of various layers... It's been on line in one form or another since 1995, or was it 94? ;) I've lost count of the pages, but it was over 900 and something... I'm afraid to totally reorganize the site because so many folks have links to it on their sites... Oh well... garage or wheels... either way, I'm not getting rid of Superdawg. ;) BTW, we are certain it is a HE. He has been marking his territory... ;) (leaky rear diff and valve cover...;) back to my html... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:49:35 +0200 From: Thorsten Windhues Subject: Re: Proposed EPA Diesel Standards & Older Engines.... Hi Richard, the german owners manual of my 200D '81 states this: if using low quality diesel with a high sulufur content, the oil change intervals should be shortened (or something similar to this). Hence I assume a low sulfur content will help to increase engine life as it does not make the oil dirty as the old diesel does. My car runs fine with every kind of fuel so just don't worry Thorsten Windhues At 13:05 18.05.00 -0700, you wrote: >I assume by now everyone has heard about the new, low-sulfer regs coming >down the pike for diesel fuel. > >Any thoughts on whether MB engines from the mid-80's will be okay with >low-sulfer fuel? > >Cheers - >RJLaue > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: new look... http://www.wagoneers.com/ reworked the format... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:29:19 -0500 From: Alec Cordova Subject: RE: New Virus I got some of my early warning about the Love Bug from the lists, so here's some additional info on the latest variant. http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/05/19/computer.virus.01/index.html The dangerous part is an attachment that will do nothing until you try to open it. Just previewing the message in Outlook or Outlook Express should not activate the payload. The stealthy part is that it apparently picks a random message from the last victim's inbox and forwards that, so the title will change every time. It also may slightly modify some commented sections of the Visual Basic Script (*.vbs) payload so that it is difficult for automatic virus detectors to identify. BE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE OPENING BEFORE LOOKING AT ANY ATTACHMENTS. When in doubt, call or email the sender before you open attachments. Too many kids having too much "fun." Drive safely and email safely, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 85 300DT, 97 Z3 1.9 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:51:31 -0400 From: "S.D.Byers" Subject: 300SD 116s for sale Found these: This is a 300SD 116 chassis, looks nice, as of Fri May 19 09:42:37 EDT 2000 it is only at $560.00(reserve not yet met). http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=335402427&r=0&t=0 This is the Euro (belgian) SPECS, manual trans, cloth seats 300SD, with winding windows and Euroi lights and all that stuff. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=334114335&r=0&t=0 I would love to buy this, but it is never worth 3000 USD, especially as you can't tell whether it has been around the clock. I would maybe pay 2k for it. I spoke to the guy who is selling it to get find out about it. For those of you who have not owned or driven a 116 chassis, they are fabulous cars. You feel like the dictator of a 3rd world country (not too much like them though). They are fast on the freeway and around town. They have a subtle attraction that distinguishes them from the 123 chassis I think. They are really big inside, and the turning radius is fantastic, you can U-turn in almost any road. I had one with 450k miles on the clock and it was so smooth. It was bought as a donor for its engine and its body was rusted out and lots of things were broken on it, the previous owner was a negligent so and so. But it drove so nicely. Anyway, I can't quite pick these up, so maybe you guys should get the benefit of my surfing..... SDB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:09:37 -0700 From: john Subject: another new look... I made some more changes to my server... let me know what you think. I'm sure I'll come up with more to do... http://www.wagoneers.com/ john - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX from Snohomish, Washington reminding you not to leave life without Jesus. ============================================================================= Microsoft Certified Professionals are to the computing industry what McDonald Certified Food Specialists are to gourmet restaurants. Michael Bacarella 3/15/2000 (as seen on http://www.slashdot.com ) ============================================================================ = ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #322 *********************************