From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #462 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Friday, December 29 2000 Volume 01 : Number 462 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: engine options? Re: [1FSJ] engine options? RE: Yahoo news article: New diesel reg's (It's a bit of a rant) Re: 1986 Mercedes Benz SDL Re: Mercedes Diesel Question Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:44:27 -0800 From: john Subject: engine options? Ok, I'm asking everyone, not just the FSJ list. ;) SuperDawg has been spitting up oil... Compression test shows that #2 rings most likely broken... or worse... ;) Requirements for new engine: 1) no carbs. 2) no AMC v8's - no more carburated boat anchors thank you. ;) 3) fuel injection (prefer MPI), TBI ok. 4) 4 speed automatic with overdrive, nothing with a history of failures 5) economical motor, good gas mileage 6) reliable, long lived motor 7) transmission bolt up directly to an NP208, 23 spline input I don't care if it's a GM, Ford or Mopar. I'll need the engine/trans complete with wiring harnesses for the engine/trans and all computers, sensors and accessories. My initial thought is to find a '91 and up 4.0L with Aisin Warner automatic from a Cherokee. But a small fuel injected V8 might not be a bad idea either... (I'd go for Diesel but the registration emission hassles make it a lot more work, and with Diesel prices almost 50 cents a gallon more... well... :( Suggestions? thanx, john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:07:40 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: [1FSJ] engine options? At 01:02 PM 12/28/00 -0800, Thunderbird wrote: >john wrote: > Requirements for new engine: > > 1) no carbs. > > 4) 4 speed automatic with overdrive, nothing with a history of failures > > 7) transmission bolt up directly to an NP208, 23 spline input > > > Suggestions? >What about a ChryCo 318!!! or a 5.9 (ar, ar, ar) Grand Chero's had these >for a short time...WAAAYYYY back in the late 90's >Brian that far back, eh? :) Doesn't sound too bad really. My neighbor has one in his Dakota, gets over 18mpg... of course he drives much more economically than I do... As long as it's fuel injected and bolts up to my NP208... actually, a 318 or 360 Chrysler/Dodge motor would use the standard radiator instead of that silly crossflow in the xj... Time to make some calls... thanx Brian. john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:09:16 From: "Mike Mehringer" Subject: RE: Yahoo news article: New diesel reg's (It's a bit of a rant) True... And I mentioned about my Grand Cherokee as well -- a gasoline vehicle -- also contributes. I think all the vehicles, big and small, diesel and gasoline, should be targeted. And let us _definately_ not forget about the biggest offender of all... not big semi-trucks, not cars or SUV's, or diesel benzes.... the BIGGEST offender is the Boeing 727, 737, 747, 767, MD DC10's, that lousy Concorde jet, etc. Those jets should be the 1st target! >From: Dan Jacobs >To: "Mike Mehringer" >CC: Diesel List >Subject: RE: Yahoo news article: New diesel reg's (It's a bit of a rant) >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:09:09 -0500 (EST) > >First of all, when I capitalize a word in a sentence, I don't want anyone >to >think I am shouting. I am only using CAPS as exageration in a place where >you can't hear me speak. > >Second, I didn't try to say anything. I flat out told it like I see it. I >don't candy coat anything when it comes to this subject. > >I am not running around blind to the truth of WHY. The WHY is that >Americans, in general, WILL NOT give up their right to own the CAR they >want >and suffer stronger regulations for CAR emissions when we can pick on the >bigger guy (the trucking industry). If long necessary stricter regulations >on exhaust emissions from gasoiline cars were suddenly (within a year) put >in place, no one would stand idly by and let it happen. "What about the >big >trucks? THEY should be punished! Can't you SEE the polution coming from >the stack? They are too slow! We can't pass them! They are unnecesary! >Put that stuff on the train! You can't SEE car exhaust! Leave us alone!" >they would cry. "We only have water coming out of the tail pipe! Water >doesn't hurt anything!" I am not exagerating. Many people have said these >things to me when I worked in an auto parts store. They would sooner die >than be forced to share their car with someone on the way to work or the >store in the name of the environment. > >Most folks go through their entire life not caring at all about what it >takes to get things from one end of the country to another. The modern BIG >trucks and the modern engines in them are sssooooo much better now then >7-10 >years ago, and they are constantly improving. Engines that run on "salad" >oil have been developed, but have not gained wide acceptance in the >industry >because they don't produce the power that diesel can. >Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see newer, stricter reg's in place, just >for >the right vehicles. Americans are just not ready to pay triple for what >they eat to help finance new technology for the trucking industry. I'm not >making excuses for my industry, just stating fact as I see it. Yup, that's >right as _I_ see it. I have been all over the country, talked to all kinds >of people, and I believe that as a culture and a country, we will not see >any usefull changes in the near future. > >It is not right for people to ignore or set aside their own polution long >enough to point to mine and say "Evil!" > >I have never seen ANYTHING drop dead in the vicinity of my BIG truck. We >don't need new laws, we need a major cultural change. > >-------Original Message------ >From: "Mike Mehringer" >To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Sent: December 27, 2000 7:37:42 PM GMT >Subject: RE: Yahoo! News Full Coverage-New Rules to Cut Diesel Emissions >Approved > > >I own a diesel, so I see what you're trying to say but... > >your "BIG" truck is also killing everything around it -- just like my >diesel >engine... It's good that they're instilling these new laws. We have to >face >the facts and realize that all our trucks, "BIG" and small (that goes for >my >Jeep Grand Cherokee as well, as much as I hate to admit it) must go and >make >room for vehicles that use some other kind of fuel that doesn't kill >everything around it with its emissions. Yeah, the failure of rubber seals >and crap will occur, fuel costs may go up, but if the planet we live on is >destroyed, who cares about seals and fuel... > >Mike M. >'95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ >'83 300SD W126 > > > >From: Dan Jacobs > >To: diesel-benz list > >Subject: RE: Yahoo! News Full Coverage-New Rules to Cut Diesel Emissions > >Approved > >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 01:59:03 -0500 (EST) > > > >Just in case you decided not to read the article, it is about beurocrats >in > >Washington D.C. picking on the BIG trucks again. > > > >As your resident BIG truck driver, I feel it is necessary to expalin why > >these types of regulation changes can hurt us all, and why they are >unfair. > > > >The last time the EPA required a reduction in sulfur in diesel fuel, it >hit > >the trucking industry pretty hard. In many engines the changed fuel >ruined > >rubber seals used in the fuel system, causing expensive breakdowns and > >repairs. The same result occured in many diesel car engines, also. >Newer > >re-formulated fuel also has a lower cloud point temperature, making it > >necessary to use more additives to run in the winter than before. Also, > >modern deisel engines operate at higher compression ratios, use higher >fuel > >injuection pressures, and are more persnickety about their fuels because >of > >those factors. > > > >When I go to start my BIG truck when the engine is cold, there are almost > >NO > >visible emissions. Thats a COLD engine, folks. There have not been any > >modifications made to my engine. Very few truck drivers with modern > >engines > >can make drastic modifications to the engine. The BIG, smoky, loud >deisel > >motors the EPA and enviro-types are referring to are older engines, and > >will > >not be changed under these new reg's. > > > >My point is this. Make sure that people that complain about smoke from a > >diesel car or BIG truck know what the facts really are: > > > >-Diesel engines, pound for pound, pollute less than gasoline engines, > >-Are still more efeccient in the conversion of fuel to energy than >their > >gasoline counterparts, > >-And reformulation of diesel fuel to reduce emmissions is only picking >on > >the obvious and visible pollution of diesel engines, not the invisible > >and > >deceptive pollution of other fuels, mainly gasoline > > > >I hope everyone is well, and will be able to enjoy the holiday season. > >Even > >if your not religious, use this time to be with family and freinds. Your > >gonna miss them when they're gone. > > > >Diesel Dan, your "Oh, suck my tailpipe, you pasty vegetable eatin' >bicycle > >ridin', tree huggin spawn of Satan!!!" man in Vancouver, WA > >------Original Message------ > >From: Mark Fountain > >To: "diesel-benz-at-digest.net" > >Sent: December 21, 2000 6:18:12 PM GMT > >Subject: Yahoo! News Full Coverage-New Rules to Cut Diesel Emissions > >Approved > > > > > >Check out this URL > >The lame duck quacks > > > >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/world/Pollution_News/ > > > >[demime 0.97b removed an attachment of type application/x-gzip] > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 18:18:05 From: "Mike Mehringer" Subject: Re: 1986 Mercedes Benz SDL The 1986 SDL is a W126 body vehicle.... and it does have fiber-optics in it... >From: john >To: SDAGZ-at-aol.com >CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Subject: Re: 1986 Mercedes Benz SDL >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:45:33 -0800 > >the wood panels on the 123/126 pull out, gently, and reveal screws >behind that loosen the panels... the manuals aren't much help. :) > >john > >At 09:32 AM 12/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >>John >>Thank you for your prompt reaction to my call for help. I dont know what >>series my 1986 MB SDL is but it probably does not have fiber optics. Any >>ideas on how to simply get to the bulb? Where are the screws? Or do I just >>apply a screw driver and wedge into it? >>Steve > >------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:12:15 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Mercedes Diesel Question don't know for sure when the 126 series ended... I'm selling my 1983 300SD, 126 chassis, asking $5,500. New glow plugs/controller and injectors... excellent condition. see: http://wagoneers.com/300SD/ I'll cc this to the diesel-benz list to see if other know when the big body style ended. :) john At 12:01 AM 12/30/00 +0000, Lee Deneault wrote: "Lee Deneault" >HI JOHN, > >Nearly a year ago, I saw a huge Mercedes Diesel sedan parked on a dealer's >lot. It was silver on black and it was simply stunning !!! It was priced >around $40K. Do you happen to know what the latest year and largest >Mercedes diesel sedan that was sold in the USA ??? I would love to be >able to find a similar one... > >Many thanks !!! > >LEE > >PS Happy New Year !!! >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #462 *********************************