From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #524 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, April 1 2001 Volume 01 : Number 524 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles John Meister Digest Coordinator Contents: new subscriber Re: power window problem, 1977 300D (123 body) Re: climate control fan? Re: new to list Re: new subscriber Re: new to list Heading to Maple Ridge... administrivia: notes on using this list Vancouver, BC, eh? Re: Heading to Maple Ridge... Re: Vancouver, BC, eh? Re: the benz lists Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:57:04 -0800 From: john Subject: new subscriber welcome... I started the list a while back... I've got an '83 300SD. This is my third Diesel Benz. Have had a '75 240D, and an 81 300D. (also had a '74 450SEL) It seems that I get a Benz when I'm doing something to one of my Jeeps. Right now I've got my '83 300SD for sale, but took the signs out of the windows, ad still running in the paper... I'm in the middle of an engine swap (to a 4.0L out of a '96 xj) on my '83 Jeep J10 stepside. I just got a '67 J-100 Jeep Panel, but it's in the middle of an axle/tranny swap... of course I still have the little wagoneer, my '88 xj wagoneer ltd, but it's my wife's... She doesn't like the Benz, says it's too big... ;) I got the 300SD so I wouldn't have to work on my daily driver... rofl... so far I've replaced the glow plugs, injectors and now need to replace the climate control fan (or brushes) and the tach... oh well, still getting 25mpg in the commute mode... too bad Diesel is so expensive... How's the '99 Turbo Diesel? what color? what kind of mileage??? john meister snohomish, washington >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:49:14 -0600 >From: "Albrecht, Ronald II" >Subject: new to list >Hello. I'm Ron; I've just subscribed and I have a '99E300TD. Look forward >to chatting. - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:18:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber Subject: Re: power window problem, 1977 300D (123 body) On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Richard Welty wrote: > i popped off the interior panel, and was able to get the window to move > freely, but now the motor doesn't appear to operate it and it can simply be > slid up and down by hand independently of pretty much anything. > > regulator? motor? any ideas? i hope to order parts on monday and fix it > some evening next week. Sounds to me like stripped teeth. If the motor teeth are engaged with the regulator, you wouldn't be able to push it up and down. Fixing it will require taking the regulator out regardless (motor is attached), so why not just take it out now and then the nature of the problem will be obvious. - -john ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:39:22 From: "Mike Mehringer" Subject: Re: climate control fan? Thanks for the advice, but I found the problem. I took the pushbutton control unit apart and found a few cracked solders...Resoldered many of them and "Wahlah!!" The climate control system works perfectly!!! :) :) :) :) :) I'm so happy... for 1/2 a year now I've been driving around jumping the fan manually! Mike M. '83 300SD W126 '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ (Not for long... got a deposit on the Jeep) >From: "Ben Howell" >Reply-To: bhowell_10-at-lycos.com >To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net, "Mike Mehringer" >Subject: Re: climate control fan? >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:13:10 -0600 > > Check your vacume system. I think that they vacume system controls a >master switch. Many times in emergencies master switch is jumped with a >fuse to get emergency climate control, but it is best for these cars to >have a good working vacume system with no alterations after the factory. >The vacume does a lot of stuff. Check for leaks and the pump may need to be >rebuilt( mostly a new o ring and gasket comes in a nice kit). >-- > >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:21:46 > Mike Mehringer wrote: > > My fan doesn't work at all. I have been jumping it at the fan blower > >computer's harness. I think my pushbutton unit in the dash is bad. >Anyone > >have one for sale?? :) > > > >Mike M. > >'83 300SD W126 > >'95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ > > > > > > > >>From: "Steve Morelen" > >>To: john-at-virtual-cafe.com, diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >>Subject: Re: climate control fan? > >>Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:36:29 -0500 > >> > >>This is a wierd coincidence....I'm currently having blower motor >problems > >>in > >>my '84 300D. Fan works fine when the car is first started, but >eventually > >>the airflow is diminshed to almost nothing and then I could hear >clicking > >>noises coming from the passenger side footwell. I ran the thing with >the > >>kick panel removed so I could hear exactly where the noise was coming > >>from...turned out to be the blower. The clicking noise occurs after the > >>motor has heated up...maybe 15 minutes and the motor speed slowly > >>diminishes > >>to zero. Now for the fluke...the lower end of the motor shaft is >viewable > >>and I pressed upward on it and the motor began to run >normally...bearings > >>don't seem to be bad...end play in shaft is barely perceptable. I took >the > >>whole thing apart...the brushes are nearly gone and the armature is worn > >>down quite a bit where the brushes ride on it. I'm now trying to find >some > >>replacement brushes...hope that fixes it. > >> > >>Regards- > >> > >>Steve Morelen > >> > >> > >>>From: john > >>>To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > >>>Subject: climate control fan? > >>>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:24:09 -0800 > >>> > >>>I'm in digest mode, so if someone has already answered this thanx... > >>> > >>>Anyway, the other day I heard a funny sound when we stopped... it > >>>sounded like something wrong with the engine... I thought maybe it > >>>was the aircleaner assy or something like that... then when I shut > >>>off the ignition I heard the fan stopping and making funny noises... > >>> > >>>...well today I was driving along, noticed it was getting warm in > >>>the car and went to flip on the fan... but it was already on, but > >>>wasn't... hmmm... so I pushed buttons, manual, auto, off... pushed > >>>defrost since that usually creates a small hurricane... nothing... > >>> > >>>Checked the fuses, wiggled the relays... no change. When I pull fuse > >>>number 11 and number 10, or was it 14 and 10? anyway, I can see that > >>>currrent is flowing in the circuit, and even here something clicking, > >>>but no fan... > >>> > >>>so, I can only hope that this fan is easier to change than a volvo... > >>> > >>>john > >>>------------------------------------------------------ > >>> http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > >>> Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > >>> jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > >>>------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > >Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail >http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:40:52 From: "Mike Mehringer" Subject: Re: new to list Welcome to the diesel-benz list Ron!!! :) Mike M. '83 300SD W126 '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ >From: "Albrecht, Ronald II" >To: "'diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net'" >Subject: new to list >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:49:14 -0600 > >Hello. I'm Ron; I've just subscribed and I have a '99E300TD. Look forward >to chatting. >***************************EMAIL DISCLAIMER************************** >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual >responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any >disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be >taken >in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >e-mail >in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health >Information Management (312) 996-3941. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:43:28 From: "Mike Mehringer" Subject: Re: new subscriber Can't complain about diesel $$$ here... it's $1.33 a gallon right over the border in New Jersey!! :) Mike M. '83 300SD W126 '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ >From: john >To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Subject: new subscriber >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:57:04 -0800 > >welcome... > >I started the list a while back... I've got an '83 300SD. This is >my third Diesel Benz. Have had a '75 240D, and an 81 300D. (also had a >'74 450SEL) > >It seems that I get a Benz when I'm doing something to one of my Jeeps. >Right now I've got my '83 300SD for sale, but took the signs out of the >windows, ad still running in the paper... I'm in the middle of an engine >swap (to a 4.0L out of a '96 xj) on my '83 Jeep J10 stepside. I just >got a '67 J-100 Jeep Panel, but it's in the middle of an axle/tranny >swap... >of course I still have the little wagoneer, my '88 xj wagoneer ltd, but >it's >my wife's... She doesn't like the Benz, says it's too big... ;) > >I got the 300SD so I wouldn't have to work on my daily driver... rofl... >so far I've replaced the glow plugs, injectors and now need to replace the >climate control fan (or brushes) and the tach... oh well, still getting >25mpg in the commute mode... too bad Diesel is so expensive... > >How's the '99 Turbo Diesel? what color? what kind of mileage??? > >john meister >snohomish, washington > >>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:49:14 -0600 >>From: "Albrecht, Ronald II" >>Subject: new to list >>Hello. I'm Ron; I've just subscribed and I have a '99E300TD. Look forward >>to chatting. > >------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:03:27 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Straut Subject: Re: new to list Ron, welcome to the list! I drive a white '85 300D that just turned over 90k miles, with 16" ATP Type-8 wheels (same as used on '95 S-class) and european headlights. We're a quiet bunch here sometimes, but this list has been a big help to me on many occasions, and I've met a lot of fellow Benz owners :) Chris - --- Chris Straut strautc-at-citynet.net "Drive defensively. Buy a tank." On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Albrecht, Ronald II wrote: > Hello. I'm Ron; I've just subscribed and I have a '99E300TD. Look forward > to chatting. > ***************************EMAIL DISCLAIMER************************** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual > responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any > disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken > in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail > in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health > Information Management (312) 996-3941. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:43:20 -0800 From: john Subject: Heading to Maple Ridge... I'm heading up to Gary's Autowrecking in Maple Ridge next Friday/Saturday (7th). Getting a transmission for my J10. Anyone on the list up around there? Meeting up with a couple folks up near Gary's on Saturday... email me off list at john-at-wagoneers.com john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:45:02 -0500 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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For more information, see the web site for Krusty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:16:30 -0400 From: Dan Jacobs Subject: Vancouver, BC, eh? >Anyone on the list up in BC? Know of any salvage yards up around or east >of Vancouver? >(that's the OTHER vancouver Diesel Dan... ;) I know, the other Vancouver, eh? I like driving my BIG truck into Canada. I can buy good chocolates for my sweetie at the duty free store on the way back, and the US Treasury Dept only charges me $5 to come back to my own country (I guess they forgot about all those taxes I already paid, oh well). Diesel Dan, your "Here you go, sir. $5 in pennies. I love America!" man in Vancouver, _WA_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:00:54 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: Heading to Maple Ridge... Hey John: I lived up that way from '93 to '98...You might try the Buy & Sell online to find some really good deals on car parts and anything else. It is like a nickelads or pennysaver, but on a much larger scale. I was thinking of going up and doing the Buy & Sell thing to get a new canopy for my REALLY full-sized F-350 crew-cab PU.-- with an IH 6.9 diesel BTW. Greg At 09:43 PM 3/31/01 -0800, you wrote: >I'm heading up to Gary's Autowrecking in Maple Ridge next >Friday/Saturday (7th). Getting a transmission for my J10. > >Anyone on the list up around there? Meeting up with a couple >folks up near Gary's on Saturday... > >email me off list at john-at-wagoneers.com > >john >------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:25:40 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Vancouver, BC, eh? At 01:16 PM 4/1/01 -0400, Dan Jacobs wrote: > >Anyone on the list up in BC? Know of any salvage yards up around or east >I know, the other Vancouver, eh? > >...and the US Treasury Dept only >charges me $5 to come back to my own country (I guess they forgot about all >those taxes I already paid, oh well). they charge you to come back into the country??? is this everyone or just truck drivers? sheesh, you'd figure they'd PAY you to come into the country, aren't we short truck drivers? ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 17:43:24 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: the benz lists At 05:51 PM 4/1/01 -0400, John Heflin wrote: >Hey john, can you point me in the direction of the other benz lists (where >to sign up)-(specifically im trying to find stuff on the 280SE and or the >4.5 or better yet where I can get a shop manual for it ('69 for the body, >'72 for the engine)? I was just lookin at the wiring harness and the >previous owner had cut a lot of wires when he took the engine out of the >other 280SEL. >John >whats been done so far... >www.crosswinds.net/~ttdmc/dieselbenz/280SE/ no idea... I started the Diesel Benz list because I figured there was a need to discuss Diesel related stuff... :) (Also the attitude of some of those "gasoline" powered Benz owners is pretty snooty... ;) I've seen alt.auto.mercedes up on usenet years ago... but don't know about the other lists... I'll cc the list... there's folks there that have quoted 'em before. john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #524 *********************************