From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #592 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, July 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 592 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: another book... Service Manual looks like we have a winner... extended warranty, is it worth it??? administrivia: notes on using this list RE: diesel-benz-digest V1 #586 (DDoS in the ether) Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:41:22 -0700 From: john Subject: another book... Service Manual I saved this manual when I sold Fritz... don't need it, don't want it... in pretty good overall condition, a couple pages came loose in the middle but it's all there. Service Manual Engines 615,616,617.91 copyright 1991 S 2481 000 I have a note from someone that sells MBz stuff that this manual sells for $75.00... I'm open to an offer because it is a little bit "shop worn". :) If you're interested shipping will be about $7, it's heavy. I prefer paypal, sign up or make payments: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=john%40wagoneers.com I only have one other Benz books left, the one by Nitsche that shows all the Models... I recommend you buy one, I'm keeping mine. :) later, john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:04:47 -0700 From: john Subject: looks like we have a winner... the list mom made an offer, and if he's willing to pick it up it's his for his bid.. ;) rofl... I don't know why the Mercedes books were so heavy... john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:45:32 -0700 From: john Subject: extended warranty, is it worth it??? Ordinarily I'd say no way to extended warranties on consumer goods... but on a used Jeep that's a theft recovery item, I'm on the fence... so is my mechanic... The fact that I can get it is encouraging, and a powerful tool if I decide to sell it... So, I'm trying to figure out it if it's worth spending $2,250 for a 4 year 60,000 miles "SuperTech" National Warranty on the '99 WJ. It's 0 deductible and covers everything, so they say. The odometer shows 32,000 miles right now, but I think it has closer to 45,000 miles on it. Runs great, only a few "issues" like brakes, key programming and a bearing noise to deal with yet... I talked to my mechanic, he says that the contracts are a pain to deal with, that the part has to be clearly broken, you need preapproval and in most cases you don't want to do it. However, in this case it might be worth it... his guess was 50/50... and that if I decide to sell it I should get it. Since it's a theft recovery it might make sense to do it because there is no way of knowing what else might be afllicted, affected or abused. ;) I can't afford to buy it and I'm not sure I can't afford not to buy it... If I get it I'll have to finance it... On the other hand, I've already spent $385 for new rotors and $620 to get the rear bearings fixed... I guess it wouldn't take too long to spend $2,250, especially over 60,000 miles and four years. Especially considering the prospect of programming another key for this thing, I may have to replace the computers... hmmmm... Has anyone dealt with this warranty before? Horror stories? Ok results? Would you do it again? This is about the newest vehicle I've ever had but I am rather used to fixing stuff myself... Remember I'm in digest mode... so if you don't mind cc'ing me on your thoughts I'd appreciate it... I know that most of us have older rigs... but I'm sure someone out there has dealt with this warranty before... (this is the one that allows me to go any where I want.) john-at-wagoneers.com - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:45:01 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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For more information, see the web site for Krusty. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:10:20 -0400 From: Dan Jacobs Subject: RE: diesel-benz-digest V1 #586 (DDoS in the ether) >===== Original Message From diesel-benz-at-digest.net ===== >diesel-benz-digest Thursday, July 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 586 > Ham Radio? A msg for you. >Ham Radio Operators? >The threat to critical Internet resources from distributed denial of >service attack tools continues to increase. An effective emergency >communications network may be of great value if damage is done to both >the Internet and to phone systems. SANS is looking for ham and packet >radio operators who are willing to take a leadership role to help >establish and maintain an emergency communication channel. If you are >qualified and interested please send an email telling us about your ham >radio and computer security activities. Send it to info-at-sans.org with >Emergency Communications Network in the subject line. Oh, yeah, baby. DDoS attacks taking place over the air, with every amateur radio connected packet computer clogged with these packets and all the sum checking. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but as a HAM, I think this is just an effort to move DDoS attacks over to a diiferent kind of network, and get some of these problems off the internet. Not a bad idea, except, since the widespread use of the internet in tech strong countries, new HAM licensees have been harder to come by, and many old timers aren't renewing licenses and dropping off the air due to "the new breed" of HAM's. In short, I don't think it will work very well, especially at 9600 baud! We now return you to your regularly scheduled program Diesel Dan, your "CQ, CQ, CQ DDoS! CQ CQ CQ DDoS!" man in Vancouver, WA ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #592 *********************************