From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #641 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Saturday, September 8 2001 Volume 01 : Number 641 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Mercedes Questions submission! RE: submission! administrivia: server cut over administrivia: krusty-users list RE: Mercedes Questions lighting options Re: Mercedes Questions Re: Corroding front bumper / Front seats Re: Question regarding headlight upgrade for 1983 300DTurboDiese l Re: lighting options RE: lighting options Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 01:19:18 +0800 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: Re: Mercedes Questions > At 06:25 PM 9/6/01 -0600, JC Jones wrote: > >Hi, > >I am looking at a 78 Mercedes 300D, it has 180,000 miles ==Snip== > The owner claims that it gets 35 to 40 mpg and > >is capable of holding 70 up Loveland Pass (6% grades to 12,000 feet). > >JC :) I would not believe these claims until I test drove it myself. While $500 is not a lot of money for one of these cars, a '78 in any kind of good condition should sell for at least double, if not $2K. I would get it checked out by a mechanic, some components are expensive to replace, but many parts, once replaced, last a very long time. My '79 300d won't do 70 up a 6% grade unless I'm going a little faster than that when I start out and I don't have to slow down for anything. I am getting about 21-23 MPG in mixed driving, others on the list do better, but I think the high MPG claims are a little out of bounds. Diesel Dan, your "He's all smoke and no diesel" man in Vancouver, WA dieseldanotr-at-earthlink.net http://dieseldan.net http://www.msf-usa.org http://teamoregon.orst.edu/to_web/ - -- dieseldanotr-at-earthlink.net http://dieseldan.net http://www.msf-usa.org http://teamoregon.orst.edu/to_web/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:33:15 +0300 From: "Matthew and Kristl Kirk" Subject: submission! Hello Diesel-Benzer's I have a curious and odd Mercedes diesel. Its an MB 100 and it was made in.........Spain, but the mechanicals are definately German. Could you help, it is fitted with the 2399cc 4cyl motor and has recently started to run very rough. Starting is fine and occassionally the roughness disappears. I've checked the fuel lines and the rubber ones between the injectors for fuel leaks and nothing. The engine mounts are solid, strong and not broken. The curious thing is the roughness sometimes disappears and there is no obvious lack of power. Sometimes there appears to be a little more black smoke than normal then again it runs fine. I suspect something is worn inside the injector or causing and injector to stick periodically. How could I check or does any one have any other suggestions? Would love to know! Matt 1989 MB 100d (its a spanish built mini-van with Mercedes mechanicals) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 06:14:40 -0700 From: ccordova-at-avaya.com Subject: RE: submission! When was the last time you adjusted the valves? If that's still the good old 240D motor, it does not have self-adjusting valves, and they should be adjusted every 15,000 miles (24-25,000 km). If they are out of adjustment, that could easily explain occasional rough running and more black smoke than usual. Good news would be (if it's the valves) that there's nothing wrong with your engine. Just needs a routine maintenance adjustment. Good luck, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 95 C280 89 300CE - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Matthew and Kristl Kirk Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:33 PM To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: submission! Hello Diesel-Benzer's I have a curious and odd Mercedes diesel. Its an MB 100 and it was made in.........Spain, but the mechanicals are definately German. Could you help, it is fitted with the 2399cc 4cyl motor and has recently started to run very rough. Starting is fine and occassionally the roughness disappears. I've checked the fuel lines and the rubber ones between the injectors for fuel leaks and nothing. The engine mounts are solid, strong and not broken. The curious thing is the roughness sometimes disappears and there is no obvious lack of power. Sometimes there appears to be a little more black smoke than normal then again it runs fine. I suspect something is worn inside the injector or causing and injector to stick periodically. How could I check or does any one have any other suggestions? Would love to know! Matt 1989 MB 100d (its a spanish built mini-van with Mercedes mechanicals) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:39:55 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: server cut over the new krusty is going to go into place, at about 10am ET tomorrow morning, with downtime of about an hour. i think i've got everything covered, but if anyone observes any strangeness after the new system comes up, drop me a line at both rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com rwelty-at-suespammers.org for those who have accounts on krusty (there are a few), please contact me at the rwelty-at-suespammers.org email address, or at 518-573-7592 for your new password -- we will be going to entirely new passwords on the new server. richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:59:41 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: administrivia: krusty-users list as an aside, for those interested in the ongoing saga of krusty operations, i've brought the krusty-users list back into being. it is mostly focused on items of interest to those actually using the server for various projects, but others are welcome to join: send to majordomo-at-krusty-motorsports.com a message containing the following in the body: subscribe krusty-users richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:26:10 -0400 From: "Menefee, Dennis" Subject: RE: Mercedes Questions I think the mileage claims are high. My '78 240D only gets 30 to 35 mpg, depending upon where and how I drive. Dennis M. - -----Original Message----- From: Dan Jacobs [mailto:dieseldanotr-at-earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:19 PM To: jcjones-at-wagoneer.net Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: Mercedes Questions > At 06:25 PM 9/6/01 -0600, JC Jones wrote: > >Hi, > >I am looking at a 78 Mercedes 300D, it has 180,000 miles ==Snip== > The owner claims that it gets 35 to 40 mpg and > >is capable of holding 70 up Loveland Pass (6% grades to 12,000 feet). > >JC :) I would not believe these claims until I test drove it myself. While $500 is not a lot of money for one of these cars, a '78 in any kind of good condition should sell for at least double, if not $2K. I would get it checked out by a mechanic, some components are expensive to replace, but many parts, once replaced, last a very long time. My '79 300d won't do 70 up a 6% grade unless I'm going a little faster than that when I start out and I don't have to slow down for anything. I am getting about 21-23 MPG in mixed driving, others on the list do better, but I think the high MPG claims are a little out of bounds. Diesel Dan, your "He's all smoke and no diesel" man in Vancouver, WA dieseldanotr-at-earthlink.net http://dieseldan.net http://www.msf-usa.org http://teamoregon.orst.edu/to_web/ - -- dieseldanotr-at-earthlink.net http://dieseldan.net http://www.msf-usa.org http://teamoregon.orst.edu/to_web/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:41:21 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: lighting options On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, diesel-benz-digest wrote: >--> RE: Question regarding headlight upgrade for 1983 300D TurboDiese l Besides Hella, Cibie and Bosch there is also IPF replacement headlamps, they work superbly. The lens quality on the IPF is far superior to the other brands. I've got 'em on SuperDawg, had 'em on Fritz and if I got another rig I'd put 'em on it too. :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 101 15:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: jerry-at-tr3.tr2.com Subject: Re: Mercedes Questions Menefee, Dennis wrote: > > >Hi, > > >I am looking at a 78 Mercedes 300D, it has 180,000 miles > ==Snip== > > The owner claims that it gets 35 to 40 mpg and > > >is capable of holding 70 up Loveland Pass (6% grades to 12,000 feet). > > >JC :) > *** For this job, I'd hold out for a turbocharged model. If I remember correctly, the turbo gives you an extra 20 HP. It will also help preserve the horsepower at those high elevations. - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 20:56:03 -0500 From: Jim & Barb Hoffman Subject: Re: Corroding front bumper / Front seats I hate that too! I really like the seats in the new Jetta's and Golf's... Pump up and the seat goes up... pump down and the seat goes down. Any- body make seats like that for a 123 body MBZ?? Jim/ '83 240D P.S. I'm getting around 29mpg. Mark Fountain wrote: > > Also has anyone ever replaced their front seats with some other after > market seats? Mine are falling apart and the wife HATES the big round > knob method of reclining the seat. Rather than fixing / rebuildint the > old ones, she would rather have me get seats like her Honda Civic has > where all you do is flip a lever and it will instantly go to any > position you want. Would appreciate any info or experience that any of > you might have on some sort of retrofit. > > Thanks, > Mark > Vancouver, WA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 20:58:33 -0500 From: Jim & Barb Hoffman Subject: Re: Question regarding headlight upgrade for 1983 300DTurboDiese l Rusty! Point me in the direction of a set of these lights! Under a hundred bucks?!?!? Jim/ '83 240D ccordova-at-avaya.com wrote: > Hella and Cibie, among others, offer drop-in replacements that will convert > you to separate reflector units with replaceable true halogen H4 bulbs, plus > you get essentially the European lighting pattern. Once you get these > properly aimed (where you only rarely notice the cutoff, which you'll > understand once you get them), you will never want to go back to > old-fashioned sealed beams. Legally, these are sold for motorcycles or > off-road, but you will be the only one who notices the change. > > I got mine from Rusty for under a hundred bucks for the full set. Worth > every penny. > > Regards, > Alec Cordova > Taylor, Texas > 95 C280 89 300CE previous 85 300DT with glorious lights to match the > glorious motor > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mercedes-at-lists.realtime.net > [mailto:owner-mercedes-at-lists.realtime.net]On Behalf Of Richard F. Dillon > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:32 AM > To: mercedes-at-lists.realtime.net; owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: Question regarding headlight upgrade for 1983 300D TurboDiesel > > Folks, I read somewhere recently that there was some kind of upgrade that I > could do to improve the light output for the 1983 300D Turbo Diesel. I > don't want to go to the expense of those new blue headlights, but somewhere > there was a suggestion made that a relatively inexpensive upgrade could be > made that would improve the headlights on the W123 series cars. Does anyone > remember this, or have any suggestion? Any help is greatly appreciated, > TIA, and please reply to rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org. > Thanks and have a GREAT day, > Richard F. Dillon > E-Mail: rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org > Character: > "Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they > become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study > your habits, they will become your character. Develop your character for it > becomes your destiny." > 3 John 2 - "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be > in health, even as thy soul prospereth." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: lighting options On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Jim & Barb Hoffman wrote: >--> Do you have a pic of the "exact" units you put in Fritz?? >-->I'd like to see them. What about the units that Alec has? >-->How do they compare? http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/IPF/H4-lamps not sure if these are the ones or not... still at work, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:42:41 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: lighting options John's look like mine did, except that mine were 7 inch rounds. Once mounted, the only visible difference is in the "ripples" in the lens, and that the new lens was flatter than the old sealed beam. I would guess (I've sold the car) that on the good lights, the center of the lens was half as far forward of the rim as the old lights, if that makes any sense. But all the backside stuff looked the same, including the wire clip to stabilize the installed bulb, and the rubber cap to press down tight over the back connections of the bulb. I just didn't have those strange green-based, blue glass bulbs. Alec - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:01 PM To: Jim & Barb Hoffman Cc: diesel-benz list Subject: Re: lighting options On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Jim & Barb Hoffman wrote: >--> Do you have a pic of the "exact" units you put in Fritz?? >-->I'd like to see them. What about the units that Alec has? >-->How do they compare? http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/IPF/H4-lamps not sure if these are the ones or not... still at work, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #641 *********************************