From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #652 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Monday, September 24 2001 Volume 01 : Number 652 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Smooth Runner! financing options??? rear brakes RE: Smooth Runner! Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 22:59:20 +0300 From: "Matthew and Kristl Kirk" Subject: Smooth Runner! Dear diesel lovers.. Its a big myth that diesel powered vehicles are rough and smokey. Certainly this is true if the vehicle hasn't been treated well or is 'worn' past economical use. I've just experienced periodical rough running both at idle and at odd times through the rev range. At first my thoughts were worn injectors or a tiring pump, however I thought I'd inspect the cheapest possibilities. I decided to trace the problem from the fuel tank through to the motor. Inside the tank, on the fuel pick-up, was a small filter that was partly desintegrated and partially blocked. I removed it and instead of replacing it I added another filter in-line near the injection pump. I also cleaned out the tank. The fuel lines were in fine order.. so I contined and replaced the large fuel filter near the pump and ran the motor with 'diesel purge' for about half and hour, Massive difference both in power and economy. It also starts quicker and definately runs smoother with a lot less black smoke on full throttle. My next situation is to find out why it takes a few seconds to stop after I switch it off. It doesn't have any vacuum based central locking system and the brakes work fine. The brake pedal, which is vacuum assisted, is a little heavy but not at all difficult or worrying when I apply the brakes. If I have the brake pedal pushed down and then switch the motor off it takes even more seconds to get it to stop....any ideas? Is the vac pump done or is the problem with the brake servo? Matt MB 100 (microbus) with 2.4 liter diesel motor. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:31:15 -0700 From: john Subject: financing options??? >John, how about refinancing your loan? 5.5 % i s available, on the east >coast. >I know that the depreciation is what u are really losing, from your "nett >asset value ", when u have a new car, though! > Regards, Jonathan I looked into a used car loan with the Boeing Credit union, they said they couldn't do it, that they could do a secured loan for only 1/2 pt less, shorter duration then the signature loan I have now... payments would go up $50 a month!!! Any suggestions on where to get a low interest used car loan? The '99 WJ just turned 36,000 miles... Wife remembered I start teaching for City University this quarter or next and we can cover the payments from that... so unless someone buys it on ebay looks like we'll stick with it... flip-flop, flip-flop... and just so y'all know, I had decided to keep it some time ago, but I'm not so attached to it that I won't let the wife decide what to do with it... I did look at a very nice '84 300CD, tried to convince the wife it'd be a good replacement for the WJ... her response, and those that have followed the saga should be able to quote the mantra: "If you sell you truck". Fat chance I'm going to part with SuperDawg, especially since he's in multiple pieces all over my friends place right now... :) my '83 J10 Stepside is not an option. I'll park it, but I won't sell it. :) So, where do I get a low interest long term loan for this jewel? john ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com '99 Grand Cherokee Ltd (WJ) - for sale on ebay (?????) '83 J10 stepside (SJ) - undergoing frame off restoration '67 J-100 (SJ) - paying for restoration / '87 cherokee laredo (xj) http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:35:57 -0700 From: john Subject: rear brakes the calipers on these cars get sediment in them, the hose will also deteriorate... Hope you flushed it well... I replaced the hose first, cleared the problem for a couple weeks, then the brake dragged again... replaced the caliper and all was well. These brakes should be flushed on a regular basis... john >My rear caliper wasn't releasing pressure, I replaced the brake hose with a >used one from a local pull-a-part for $3. No problems since. >I love my car. I'll drive it until the engine dies.http://DieselDan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 06:30:48 -0700 From: ccordova-at-avaya.com Subject: RE: Smooth Runner! Good catch on the old tank screen. Makes perfect sense that fixing that and running diesel purge should give the results you saw. For the shutoff, I would search for a vacuum leak somewhere. Not sure if this applies to an MB100, but it is my understanding that the system works something like this: You turn off the key. That triggers a vacuum thingy directly at the ignition switch. Through vacuum hoses, the diesel injection pump is made aware of this event. The injection pump shuts off the flow of fuel, stopping the motor. The "trigger" may be a vacuum gadget that affects another vacuum gadget on the injection pump, or it may actually be an electrical signal to a solenoid somewhere to change vacuum somewhere. [I never said I had a perfect understanding of this system, just that I had some kind of understanding of it ;-) ] Even if you don't have central locks, MB loves to use vacuum with the diesels. On many of the cars, vacuum is involved in automatic transmission shifts. Before you spend money on a vac pump, I would suggest that you check all the vacuum lines and fittings for leaks. Good luck, Alec Cordova - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Matthew and Kristl Kirk Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 2:59 PM To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: Smooth Runner! Dear diesel lovers.. Its a big myth that diesel powered vehicles are rough and smokey. Certainly this is true if the vehicle hasn't been treated well or is 'worn' past economical use. I've just experienced periodical rough running both at idle and at odd times through the rev range. At first my thoughts were worn injectors or a tiring pump, however I thought I'd inspect the cheapest possibilities. I decided to trace the problem from the fuel tank through to the motor. Inside the tank, on the fuel pick-up, was a small filter that was partly desintegrated and partially blocked. I removed it and instead of replacing it I added another filter in-line near the injection pump. I also cleaned out the tank. The fuel lines were in fine order.. so I contined and replaced the large fuel filter near the pump and ran the motor with 'diesel purge' for about half and hour, Massive difference both in power and economy. It also starts quicker and definately runs smoother with a lot less black smoke on full throttle. My next situation is to find out why it takes a few seconds to stop after I switch it off. It doesn't have any vacuum based central locking system and the brakes work fine. The brake pedal, which is vacuum assisted, is a little heavy but not at all difficult or worrying when I apply the brakes. If I have the brake pedal pushed down and then switch the motor off it takes even more seconds to get it to stop....any ideas? Is the vac pump done or is the problem with the brake servo? Matt MB 100 (microbus) with 2.4 liter diesel motor. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #652 *********************************