From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #682 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, December 11 2001 Volume 01 : Number 682 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Bad Fuel Update! Bad Fuel Update! Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) Holiday advice from a smart person RE: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) Re: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) RE: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:58:43 +0200 From: "Matthew and Kristl Kirk" Subject: Bad Fuel Update! Wrote a short message about not being able to get the car started because of a blocked fuel filter! The same thing has happened every morning this weekend so I thought I'd give the fuel lines another look over. I found a white/yellow gel in the small plastic pre-filter. Apparently its parrafin and diesel mixed together which when its well below freezing gels up. When its in this gel state it allows very little fuel through, consequently a long time to start the motor. When the motor runs a little it warms up and allows the fuel/parrafin to flow more easily. Why parrafin is present I don't know but I got some additive to deal with it. I never thought 'why is the filter getting blocked?' I live in Romania (Eastern Europe) and last night the temperature went to -18 degree's C. For the last weekend we have been below freezing. As I live in an appartment block its difficult to get an engine block heater connected up. So my car has to face the elements or face me with my amatuer tool kit.. Really enjoy the communication on this digest. Matt (MB 100) and many spare pairs of socks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:09:45 +0200 From: "Matthew and Kristl Kirk" Subject: Bad Fuel Update! Dear Diesel Friends Thanks to all who have written about my frozen fuel! I finally found a decent winter fuel additive, its made in Belgium by a company called 'Wynns'. I put it in yesterday and drove for half an hour. Today I looked at the plastic pre-filter and didn't find any gel or blockages. Then I fired it up and it started first time. Thanks again. Matt MB 100 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:41:16 PST From: Kay Gheen Subject: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) If you have trouble finding a good fuel additive, kerosene or jet fuel work great to winterize your fuel. Just add a few gallons to the tank prior to a fill up. If you do use kerosens, you don't want the mixture to exceed 50% kerosene. You need the lubricating qualities of the diesel. Regards, Kay > > Dear Diesel Friends > > Thanks to all who have written about my frozen fuel! > > I finally found a decent winter fuel additive, its made in Belgium by a > company called 'Wynns'. I put it in yesterday and drove for half an hour. > Today I looked at the plastic pre-filter and didn't find any gel or blockages. > Then I fired it up and it started first time. > > Thanks again. > > Matt > MB 100 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:17:27 -0800 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: Holiday advice from a smart person I cannot take credit for this, I don't know who wrote it or I would give credit where its due. I think the message is "Lighten up, have fun, enjoy the holidays, enjoy your freinds and the FOOD!" Forget those magazines with do's and don'ts...Holiday eating tips... 1. About those carrot sticks. Avoid them. Anyone who puts carrots on a holiday buffet table knows nothing of the Christmas spirit. In fact, if you see carrots, leave immediately. Go next door, where they're serving rum balls. 2. Drink as much eggnog as you can. And quickly. Like fine single-malt Scotch, it's rare. In fact, it's even rarer than single-malt Scotch. You can't find it any other time of year but now. So drink up! Who cares that it has 10,000 calories in every sip? It's not as if you're going to turn into an eggnogaholic or something. It's a treat. Enjoy it. Have one for me. Have two. It's later than you think. It's Christmas! 3. If something comes with gravy, use it. That's the whole point of gravy. Gravy does not stand alone. Pour it on. Make a volcano out of your mashed potatoes. Fill it with Gravy. Eat the volcano. Repeat. 4. As for mashed potatoes, always ask if they're made with skim milk or whole milk. If it's skim, pass. Why bother? It's like buying a sports car with automatic transmission. 5. Do not have a snack before going to a party in an effort to control your eating. The whole point of going to a Christmas party is to eat other people's food for free. Lots of it. Hello? Remember college? 6. Under no circumstances should you exercise between Christmas and New Year's. You can do that in January when you have nothing else to do. This is the time for long naps, which you'll need after circling the buffet table carrying a 10-pound plate of food and that vat of eggnog. 7. If you come across something really good at a buffet table, like frosted Christmas cookies in the shape and size of Santa, position yourself near them and don't budge. Have as many as you can before becoming the center of attention. They're like a beautiful pair of shoes. You can't leave them behind. You're not going to see them again. 8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each. Or, if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? LaborDay? 9. Did someone mention fruitcake? Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it all cost. I mean, have some standards, mate. 10. And one final tip If you don't feel terrible when you leave the party or get up from the table, you haven't been paying attention. Re-read tips. Start over. But hurry! Cookie-less January is just around the corner! Happy Holidays! Diesel Dan http://DieselDan.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:13:17 -0500 From: "Menefee, Dennis" Subject: RE: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) "... kerosene or jet fuel work great to winterize your fuel. Just add a few gallons to the tank prior to a fill up. If you do use kerosene, you don't want the mixture to exceed 50% kerosene. You need the lubricating qualities of the diesel." Kay, The old books have a recommendation for blends of kerosene with amounts, too. You've got to watch the jet fuel blends though. Some jet fuels are gas or benzene with kero blends. Too much isn't so good, even in Siberia. The Jets got good antigel, water dispersant, line/tank detergent, and biocides in it though. Dennis M. 78 240D 92 300D 2.5 Turbo Regards, Kay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:50:00 -0600 From: "Vernon Tuck" Subject: Re: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) My Volksie owners manual says you can use gasoline to winterize diesel. Don't remember the proportions though. Also, any gasoline added makes the fuel as explosive as gasoline. You have been warned. VT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:58:33 -0800 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: RE: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) Just remember that kerosene doesn't help get rid of any water in your system. After using kerosene, get some additive that gets rid of water to prevent having the water freeze up and clog your filters. This is the problem you will run into with some treated fuels. It will be treated to prevent gelling, but there may be enough water to let your filters freeze. Don't blindly trust a fuel source that advertises treated fuel to prevent gelling. They may have only treated it enough to pump it out of the ground, and if their tanks are close to being empty, you may get alot of water. Ususally fuel stations will use additives to make water heavier than fuel, and when the tanks gets low, you get a bunch of water. Use something that either makes the water heavier than the fuel and periodically drain your fuel tank to get rid of the accumulation (Howes), or use an additive that disperses the water into tiny droplets that pass harmlessly through your FI system and out the tailpipe (FPPF). > [Original Message] > From: Kay Gheen > To: > Date: 12/11/2001 2:41:16 AM > Subject: Bad Fuel Update! (fwd) > > If you have trouble finding a good fuel additive, kerosene or jet fuel > work great to winterize your fuel. Just add a few gallons to the tank > prior to a fill up. If you do use kerosens, you don't want the mixture > to exceed 50% kerosene. You need the lubricating qualities of the > diesel. > > Regards, > Kay > > > > Dear Diesel Friends > > > > Thanks to all who have written about my frozen fuel! > > > > I finally found a decent winter fuel additive, its made in Belgium by a > > company called 'Wynns'. I put it in yesterday and drove for half an hour. > > Today I looked at the plastic pre-filter and didn't find any gel or blockages. > > Then I fired it up and it started first time. > > > > Than ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #682 *********************************