From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #686 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, December 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 686 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Question about glowplugs RE: Question about glowplugs RE: Question about glowplugs RE: Question about glowplugs raging waters... Fwd: OFF TOPIC - Skilled Labor - Sven and Ole Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:59:01 -0600 From: "Richard F. Dillon" Subject: Question about glowplugs Folks, I was wondering if anyone might have a suggestion as to how to determine which glow plug might be bad, if any, on a 1979 240D. This car apparently has the "old style" glow plug system. I have had trouble starting it lately, and am just about to replace the battery, but I thought that maybe one of the glow plugs had gone out, Any help is GREATLY appreciated, TIA and please reply to rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org. Thanks and have a GREAT day, Richard F. Dillon E-Mail: rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org Character: "Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, for they become habits. Study your habits, they will become your character. Develop your character for it becomes your destiny." 3 John 2 - "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 7:36:57 -0800 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: RE: Question about glowplugs First, I'd begin by checking to be sure this is the problem. To see if the glow plug cucuit is working, in a darkened garage or at night, raise the hood, turn the key on with a cold engine, observe the glow plug light on the dash comes on, and quickly look under the hood. If the glow plug system is working properly, the wires between them will be glowing. I cannot help with singling out which one is the culprit, but this will help you find out if this is really where you should be looking. > [Original Message] > From: Richard F. Dillon > To: Mercedes malining list ; Diesel Benz list > Date: 12/17/2001 3:59:01 AM > Subject: Question about glowplugs > > Folks, I was wondering if anyone might have a suggestion as to how to > determine which glow plug might be bad, if any, on a 1979 240D. This car > apparently has the "old style" glow plug system. I have had trouble > starting it lately, and am just about to replace the battery, but I thought > that maybe one of the glow plugs had gone out, Any help is GREATLY > appreciated, TIA and please reply to rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org. > Thanks and have a GREAT day, > Richard F. Dillon Diesel Dan http://DieselD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:46:39 -0700 From: "JC Jones" Subject: RE: Question about glowplugs If you have one bad glow plug, chances are the other's are not far behiend. Save yourself some future grief and replace them all. You can get a good deal on Bosch glow plugs from The Benz Bin (http://www.thebenzbin.com). JC Jones http://www.wagoneer.net 1979 Jeep J-10 "Max" 1984 Grand Wagoneer "Eeyore" 1978 MB 300D "Fritz" 1986 Jeep XJ Cherokee "Junior" * * * * * =================== "They that can give up * * * * =================== essential liberty to * * * * * =================== obtain a little ============================= temporary safety ============================= deserve neither ============================= liberty nor safety." ============================= -Benjamin Franklin - -> -----Original Message----- - -> From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net - -> [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Richard F. Dillon - -> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:59 AM - -> To: 'Diesel Benz list'; 'Mercedes malining list' - -> Subject: Question about glowplugs - -> - -> - -> Folks, I was wondering if anyone might have a suggestion as - -> to how to determine which glow plug might be bad, if any, on - -> a 1979 240D. This car apparently has the "old style" glow - -> plug system. I have had trouble starting it lately, and am - -> just about to replace the battery, but I thought that maybe - -> one of the glow plugs had gone out, Any help is GREATLY - -> appreciated, TIA and please reply to rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org. - -> Thanks and have a GREAT day, Richard F. Dillon - -> E-Mail: rfdillon-at-hal-pc.org - -> Character: - -> "Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Choose your - -> words, for they become actions. Understand your actions, - -> for they become habits. Study your habits, they will become - -> your character. Develop your character for it becomes your - -> destiny." 3 John 2 - "Beloved, I wish above all things that - -> thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." - -> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 7:48:16 -0800 From: "Dan Jacobs" Subject: RE: Question about glowplugs I agree. If you can afford it, I'd replace them all (if they are the problem) and avoid future grief this winter. Also check your battery, voltage regulator, anf fuel filters. They all have something to do with helping your car get started easily. > [Original Message] > From: JC Jones > To: > Date: 12/17/2001 7:46:39 AM > Subject: RE: Question about glowplugs > > If you have one bad glow plug, chances are the other's are not far > behind. Save yourself some future grief and replace them all. Diesel Dan http://DieselDan.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:33:49 -0800 From: john Subject: raging waters... I'd finally gotten my carport/shop mostly organized and cleaned out. Had a workbench sitting on concrete pavers behind the slab nice and level. All I needed to do was enclose it, cover the front with an arbor and I'd finally have a nice shop... Then the neighbors decided to pave the shared driveway, not a bad idea, the upper drive was a mess. But the contractor that was hired decided to put a box over a culvert up on the corner of my property that takes runoff from the Clearview hill and passed it through pipes in my yard out to the back into a creek. It's been there for 20 years, never leaked. He wasn't asked to do it, in fact, I asked them not to pave that area, but he did it anyway. Everyone looked at the drain sitting up on the high spot of the drive and asked why someone would put a drain there... it made no sense whatsoever.... The box was placed over a point where two culverts come together, the contractor installed a pipe going down between them. He removed the old plug from the original mess... the original contractor didn't do it properly for certain, but it wasn't leaking... So now with a "blowpipe" in place water was forced up out of the connection and gushed up into the box and around the original connection and even under the driveway... eroding that section of the driveway and forcing water down my hillside... We had several rivers pouring over the hillside... listen to the sound of it: http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/hillside-flood-Dec17-2001/hear-the-water.mov My wife's garden, that's been there for years now, is badly eroded, our drain field is most likely damaged, my carport slab is hanging in thin air. The concrete is extended without support almost 4 feet in the back corner, and holding up the carport... this concrete is only about 7 months old too... impressive... there is no wire mesh, rebar or any metal work, it's just regular cement about 3.5" thick. http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/hillside-flood-Dec17-2001/concrete-bridge.jpg The paving contractor refuses to accept any responsibility, won't even clean up the mess he made of the driveway next to my carport where he dumped the old dirt, left ruts and piles of dirt in front of the carport that diverted the excess runoff into my carport. He's even threatened me with physical harm if I call him again. He never even come out to look at the problem or the mess he left me. Kept saying he'd come out when it was dry... and that it was just "shovel" work. I let him dump the dirt and gravel behind my shed with the expectation that he'd level things out and make sure my drive in front of my carport was graded back to what it was before. He did neither and refused to come out. Because he didn't regrade the drive in front of my carport it flooded and eroded, had the previous grade been intact the water would have passed in front of the carport as designed... I've contacted the state highway department about the water runoff, of course they claim no responsibility, neither does the county... Insurance policies don't cover damage from events like this... neighbor's aren't affected... so guess who gets to deal with it all... :( http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/hillside-flood-Dec17-2001/ALL-Dec16-flood.jpg Two things remain for me to do. Fix the culvert so it doesn't leak again. And get material back under my carport slab. I'll need to help the neighbor below (who was also flooded because of this) to get his excavator working in the morning and dig up the asphalt that is covering the old pipes and fix it correctly. The guy that did my concrete work is coming out, will probably hire him to fix the culvert correctly. Then I need to figure out how to get material back under the carport and regrade my driveway. Any ideas on how to get material back under a slab??? I didn't need this project... Can't use my carport until I can secure the slab... If you are looking for a paving company in the Puget Sound, let me know, I'll give you one name that you do NOT want to use. :) They're out of Marysville... I didn't hire the guy, don't even know his contractor number and really don't have the time or money to pursue legal action against the guy. All I know is I'm stuck with the problem and no real avenue of recourse. And more rain is coming... :( Been here for about 8 years and never had water problems like this until this guy messed with that culvert... Neighbor has been here for almost 20 years and never seen it leak... yet this paving contractor says he didn't change anything, except to remove the cover my neighbor had over it... He's blaming the heavy rains. But we've had heavy rains here before... I don't buy it. But I guess I get to "buy" the repairs... :( john - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:59:14 -0600 (CST) From: jslash-at-execpc.com Subject: Fwd: OFF TOPIC - Skilled Labor - Sven and Ole [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Thought you guys might like this... Sven and Ole worked together and both were laid off, so they went to the unemployment office. Asked his occupation, Ole said, "Panty Stitcher." "I sew the elastic onto ladies cotton panties." The clerk looked up panty stitcher. Finding it classified as unskilled labor, she gave him $300 a week unemployment pay. Sven was asked his occupation. "Diesel fitter" he replied. Since diesel fitter was a skilled job, the clerk gave Sven $600 a week. When Ole found out he was furious. He stormed back into the office to find out why his friend and coworker was collecting double his pay. The Clerk explained, "Panty stitchers are unskilled and diesel fitters are skilled labor." "What skill?" yelled Ole. "I sew the elastic on the panties, Sven puts them over his head and says.......... .x .x .x .x .x .x .x .x "Oh Yah, diesel fitter." ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #686 *********************************