From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #911 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Friday, March 7 2003 Volume 01 : Number 911 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high Re: second thoughts about recommendation... Re: second thoughts about recommendation... Re: second thoughts about recommendation... Re[2]: second thoughts about recommendation... RE: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High Re: second thoughts about recommendation... RE: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high RE: second thoughts about recommendation... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:40:50 -0800 From: Jack Tavares Subject: Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high sparkythelad wrote: > I ran into the exact same problem on my 83 300D. It was the temperature > control solenoid on the bulkhead, behind the the air filter, which had stuck > in the "heat" position. Disconnect two spade connectors from the solenoid, > undo a couple of machine screws, take out the guts, clean everything up > (remove scale etc.) and reassemble. Took about 20 mins. Be careful when you > take the solenoid plunger and washers apart (one machine screw). They have > to go back EXACTLY as you removed them. (Don't reinstall them upside down.) > This has got to be about the simplest job you can do on an MB. It's as easy > as emptying the ashtrays or changing the air filter. > > I'll bet a dollar to a case of donuts that this is the cause of your heat > problem. Hmmmmmmmm, donuts. i will give that a try and report back. thanks - -- jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:06:52 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high At 04:40 PM 3/6/2003 -0800, Jack Tavares wrote: >sparkythelad wrote: >> I'll bet a dollar to a case of donuts that this is the cause of your heat >>problem. > >Hmmmmmmmm, donuts. speaking of which, there's a great donut shop over in Totem Lake called Countryside donuts... ;) BTW, I called a mechanic friend who's out of work right now, he's coming over tomorrow to lend a hand. john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:13:01 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: second thoughts about recommendation... At 07:33 PM 3/6/2003 -0500, Robert Chase wrote: >hmm, > >They refused to do the work with your parts at all? just about... the attitude was pretty bad. made it no secret that they make their money from parts and weren't interested in helping me out. I haven't dealt with them for a few years, kind of remember going through the same thing before and I just returned the parts to the dealer and bought them from them. But in the course of fixing my car they also broke a vacuum line, which I fixed on my own and didn't say anything... and then they did some work on my daughters car and pointed out that something was about to break, but didn't bother to fix it... it broke later leaving me another project... so besides the attitude I guess GP Automotive has other shortcomings that I overlooked because they stuck to their estimate and scheduled time of completion. So if you're willing to pay more and get nothing more, but on time and mostly right the first time they're fine... ;) >If you were in the Atlanta area I would suggest Volrepairs II. They do I think I'd rather fix it myself then live in Georgia again... ;) >Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went through >every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several independants. finding a good mechanic is extremely hard... They really pushed my button with their attitude... john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:22:29 -0800 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: second thoughts about recommendation... On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went > through every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several independants. Man. I thought lousy mechanics all congregated to the bay area. Looks like they've bred. Too bad. Mechanics around here are soooo bad that often times I have to trailer a dead something 90 miles one way just to find someone who does the job right for the agreed price and doesn't try to hose me up or bend me over. I know of a good place in redwood city, but they don't work on a lot of the weird stuff I have. And my place in patterson doesn't do diesel, so when I finally get the benz, I'm on my own. *sigh* K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:38:11 +1000 From: Guy Carpenter Subject: Re: second thoughts about recommendation... They are too far south to be practical for John, but we've had wonderful service from Friedels in Renton. They specialize in MB's and maybe also do VW's. FRIEDELS 345 Factory Pl N Renton WA 98055 (425) 228-4262 They are a trip back to the 50's. My wife always took our 300D in, and came back smiling with lots of good fatherly advice to pass on to me. And they did a good job at a very reasonable price. There used to be a place as good near here, but Graham retired and left us all to the sharks. Cheers, Guy. At 05:13 PM 6/03/2003 -0800, john wrote: >At 07:33 PM 3/6/2003 -0500, Robert Chase wrote: >>hmm, >> >>They refused to do the work with your parts at all? > >just about... the attitude was pretty bad. made it >no secret that they make their money from parts and weren't >interested in helping me out. I haven't dealt with them >for a few years, kind of remember going through the same >thing before and I just returned the parts to the dealer >and bought them from them. But in the course of fixing my >car they also broke a vacuum line, which I fixed on my own >and didn't say anything... and then they did some work on >my daughters car and pointed out that something was about >to break, but didn't bother to fix it... it broke later >leaving me another project... so besides the attitude I >guess GP Automotive has other shortcomings that I overlooked >because they stuck to their estimate and scheduled time of >completion. So if you're willing to pay more and get nothing >more, but on time and mostly right the first time they're >fine... ;) > > >>If you were in the Atlanta area I would suggest Volrepairs II. They do > >I think I'd rather fix it myself then live in Georgia again... ;) > >>Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went >>through every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several independants. > >finding a good mechanic is extremely hard... > >They really pushed my button with their attitude... > >john > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:42:33 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Welty Subject: Re[2]: second thoughts about recommendation... On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:22:29 -0800 Kevin Pekarek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > > Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went > > through every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several > independants. > > Man. I thought lousy mechanics all congregated to the bay area. Looks > like > they've bred. Too bad. what's facinating about all this is that we've just lucked out on a diesel benz mechanic in Albany NY. i can heartily recommend the folks at Autobahn on central avenue. Dick quickly tracked down the real reason why my wife's 1996 E300D was stalling randomly w/o a check engine light (it was sucking air through some bad o-rings in the fool line. easy to spot once you knew, you could see the bubbles through the semi-transparent fool line where it connected to the filter in the engine compartment.) richard - -- Richard Welty rwelty-at-suespammers.org Averill Park Networking rwelty-at-averillpark.net Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com 518-573-7592 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:48:13 -0500 From: "Michael Aimino" Subject: RE: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High I've always considered myself a eco-conservative. A "good steward of resources" approach. (Far as I can see, most of the eco-liberals are more concerned with mandating population control and stopping people's use of natural resources.) So biodiesel makes sense to me - take something that's going to waste and make something useful out of it. Plus, I get to play with a really big chemistry set. ;) On 6 Mar 03, at 12:39, hue wong wrote: > Ya, I am kinda an closet eco-head as well and feel > it's time we stop passing the buck and start taking > actions to clean up our earth. From all I've read > this is a MUCH cleaner way to power a car. > (these war protesters that march around chanting "no > war for oil" then drive away from the protest in an > SUV just make me livid. Ignorant fookers!!!!) > I want to get the US off the oil dependence so I'm > gonna do the "think globaly act localy" thing... > > Anyway, enough of my neo-hippieisum... > > > > > --- "Aimino, Michael" wrote: > > I don't think you're missing anything - I've come to > > the same conclusion. I > > can brew my own diesel for about $.65 a gallon. If I > > get real ambitious, I can > > refine the leftover glycerine and sell it - even > > less per gallon. > > > > The reactions I get from the local restaurants are, > > basically, "take all you > > want." I've collected 225 gallons of oil in a few > > hours. A few hours work > > (albeit with some strong chemical), and I can fuel > > my car for a fraction of > > the pump price. > > > > In fact, biodiesel outperforms regular diesel - it > > has a higher cetane number > > (it's a super premium diesel), better lubricating > > qualities for the injector > > pump and injectors, and less soot. It's a denser > > fuel, so you get better > > mileage and more power - all dyno-tested facts. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hue wong [mailto:wong_hue-at-yahoo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:10 PM > > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > > Subject: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High > > > > > > O.K. I am floored. > > > > Been studying up on this vegtable oil-deisel the > > last > > couple of days and am just floored. To say the > > least > > I am a convert and am going to start tooling up to > > do > > this. > > Got my eye on a nice little 240D for 2100.00 to play > > with and figure I can spend one saturday a month > > brewing up a batch of fuel for the month. I've > > already scouted out the local fastfood resturants > > and > > a few even told me they would actually pay me to > > take > > away thier old oil!!! I'm figuring after startup > > costs (only a few hundred) I can make the fuel for > > about $0.50-$0.80 a gallon! > > > > Seems to me, that I am missing something important > > or > > everyone would do this, but then again, from reading > > on the Inet, seems like allot of people already are! > > > > Rock on! > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:59:39 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: second thoughts about recommendation... At 11:38 AM 3/7/2003 +1000, Guy Carpenter wrote: >They are too far south to be practical for John, especially considering the locked straight ahead wheels... ;) I've heard about this guy before. One of these days when I'm down there, hmmm... the moonshiner's swap meet (4x4) is sunday, will be heading down to Puyallup... could drive by and check it out. >but we've had wonderful service from Friedels in Renton. >They specialize in MB's and maybe also do VW's. > >FRIEDELS >345 Factory Pl N >Renton WA 98055 >(425) 228-4262 > >They are a trip back to the 50's. My wife always >took our 300D in, and came back smiling with lots >of good fatherly advice to pass on to me. And they >did a good job at a very reasonable price. sounds like the kind of place you WANT to recommend and not some greedy attituded independent. I understand the idea behind the parts thing, but give me a break, the car is down and worse then I thought. Well, it'll cost them because a lot of people come to me for advice in this realm and I won't forget the lousy attitude any time soon. >There used to be a place as good near here, but >Graham retired and left us all to the sharks. >Cheers, Guy. yeah, the good guys shouldn't be allowed to retire... ;) john >At 05:13 PM 6/03/2003 -0800, john wrote: >>At 07:33 PM 3/6/2003 -0500, Robert Chase wrote: >>>hmm, >>> >>>They refused to do the work with your parts at all? >> >>just about... the attitude was pretty bad. made it >>no secret that they make their money from parts and weren't >>interested in helping me out. I haven't dealt with them >>for a few years, kind of remember going through the same >>thing before and I just returned the parts to the dealer >>and bought them from them. But in the course of fixing my >>car they also broke a vacuum line, which I fixed on my own >>and didn't say anything... and then they did some work on >>my daughters car and pointed out that something was about >>to break, but didn't bother to fix it... it broke later >>leaving me another project... so besides the attitude I >>guess GP Automotive has other shortcomings that I overlooked >>because they stuck to their estimate and scheduled time of >>completion. So if you're willing to pay more and get nothing >>more, but on time and mostly right the first time they're >>fine... ;) >> >> >>>If you were in the Atlanta area I would suggest Volrepairs II. They do >> >>I think I'd rather fix it myself then live in Georgia again... ;) >> >>>Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went >>>through every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several independants. >> >>finding a good mechanic is extremely hard... >> >>They really pushed my button with their attitude... >> >>john >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >> http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ >> Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... >> jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >>------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:06:34 -0800 From: john Subject: RE: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High At 08:48 PM 3/6/2003 -0500, Michael Aimino wrote: >To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >Subject: RE: Retail Gasoline Prices to Set Record High >I've always considered myself a eco-conservative. A "good steward of >resources" approach. (Far as I can see, most of the eco-liberals are >more concerned with mandating population control and stopping >people's use of natural resources.) So biodiesel makes sense to me - >take something that's going to waste and make something useful out of >it. Plus, I get to play with a really big chemistry set. ;) I agree, I've always tried to be a good steward and use our resources wisely. But the attitude of the eco-terrorist and liberals is quite out of line with reality. BioDiesel sounds like a great way of saving money and helping the environment too. Just think, if we could get off of foreign oil we'd be in a lot better shape. BTW, AMSOIL is made from synthetic base stock, I don't think they require petroleum to make it... dibasic acid esther and polyol esthers... corn, soybean??? Not a chemist but I'm pretty sure it's not petro. The germans during ww2 figured out how to use coal. We've got the technology and Diesels seem to be the way to make it work... educating americans will be the really hard part... people are always the problem... of course that's what lead me to become a christian back in '75... the book the late great planet earth explained things in such a way to me that made perfect sense... so it won't surprise me that while we have the technology and resources we'll continue on using petroleum and gas engines... :( john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:30:35 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: Temp sensor doesn't work anymore. Stuck on high found this: http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/climate-control.txt john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:31:10 -0800 From: REisenhardt-at-AlienTechnology.com Subject: RE: second thoughts about recommendation... Kevin There's a pretty good place in Monterey called Honest Engines. Guy's a second generation MB mechanic. I think it's owned by both father and son, but I've dealt with the son exclusively. Fairly reasonable, lots of older MBs in the lot for repair. Seems to know diesels pretty well... Randy - -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Pekarek [mailto:kevin-at-mordred.punk.net] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:22 PM To: Robert Chase Cc: john; diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: second thoughts about recommendation... On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:33:46PM -0500, Robert Chase wrote: > Im the same way though John. Try to screw me and im gone. I went > through every Volvo Dealer in Atlanta and then onto several independants. Man. I thought lousy mechanics all congregated to the bay area. Looks like they've bred. Too bad. Mechanics around here are soooo bad that often times I have to trailer a dead something 90 miles one way just to find someone who does the job right for the agreed price and doesn't try to hose me up or bend me over. I know of a good place in redwood city, but they don't work on a lot of the weird stuff I have. And my place in patterson doesn't do diesel, so when I finally get the benz, I'm on my own. *sigh* K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #911 *********************************