From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #931 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Monday, March 17 2003 Volume 01 : Number 931 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Re: injectors and aircraft remover... A news article... Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Re: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Meanderings RE: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Mercedes meanderings Re: Mini Cooper Meanderings 240D Re: 240D Re: 240D Re: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Mercedes meanderings Re: 240D Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:39:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... john wrote: > > for my J10... noticed that my friend had a container > of what we'd been talking about! AirCraft Remover... see pix > at: http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/190D *** I've seen this before in the local autopaints store. I note that the top of the can says that it is not compliant with some MIL-spec or other. Assumably, that's the spec that would actually allow using the product to remove paint on aircraft :). - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:50:04 -0500 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Aircraft paint is interesting. A friend of our family painted his Corvette in it because he thought it would be better... It looked like complete crap and he had it repainted again.... Dont think Ill be doing an Imron Job on my 300sd anytime soon R. On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 03:39 PM, Jerome Kaidor wrote: > john wrote: >> >> for my J10... noticed that my friend had a container >> of what we'd been talking about! AirCraft Remover... see pix >> at: http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/190D > > *** I've seen this before in the local autopaints store. I note that > the > top of the can says that it is not compliant with some MIL-spec or > other. > Assumably, that's the spec that would actually allow using the product > to remove paint on aircraft :). > > - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:56:22 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... At 12:39 PM 3/16/2003 -0800, Jerome Kaidor wrote: >john wrote: > > > > for my J10... noticed that my friend had a container > > of what we'd been talking about! AirCraft Remover... see pix > > at: http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/190D > >*** I've seen this before in the local autopaints store. I note that the >top of the can says that it is not compliant with some MIL-spec or other. >Assumably, that's the spec that would actually allow using the product >to remove paint on aircraft :). that's what I figured... john > - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 2003 23:34:12 -0500 From: "Gary, Orlando" Subject: A news article... Hey Folks, Check this out... http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/075/metro/Soaring_gas_prices_fuel_resurgence_of_diesel_cars+.shtml - -Gary, Orlando ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:38:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > My mailbox was recently graced by a missive from Jerome Kaidor : > > > *** I've seen this before in the local autopaints store. I note that the > > top of the can says that it is not compliant with some MIL-spec or other. > > Assumably, that's the spec that would actually allow using the product > > to remove paint on aircraft :). > > No, that's the spec that would allow its use in _military_ aircraft. > *** The civilian aircraft world has a tendancy to require MIL specs when they are available. I'd have to look it up. My guess would be that the main issue would be a effect called "Hydrogen Embrittlement", and the stuff can be used on areas that are not spring steel. "Hydrogen embrittlement" - I experienced this once. I was derusting a pile of British Car hardware in a phosphoric acid bath. I had inadvertently thrown in a few split lockwashers. They came out looking like something spat forth by a volcano, unlike all the mild-steel stuff, which just got its rust etched off. Did you know that Simple Green eats aluminum alloy? The Army found that it did, and has outlawed its use for degreasing helicopters. - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:09:45 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: injectors and aircraft remover... At 05:38 AM 3/17/2003 -0800, Jerome Kaidor wrote: > Did you know that Simple Green eats aluminum alloy? The Army found >that it did, and has outlawed its use for degreasing helicopters. > - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) I used Simple Green on my Jeep engines... is it ok if you rinse it off right away??? john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:13:39 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Meanderings At 08:14 AM 3/17/2003 -0700, Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: >Alfa is talking to 40 former dealers, which, I'm sure, is interesting, >considering we can't even get a Mini Cooper dealer here in Austin. >MFSJC: I went to North Carolina on Greyhound to get a Volvo station wagon >for the wife, and got back, hopped in the Jeep. I would rather drive the Jeep. I've got an XJ, a WJ and an SJ... also a Mercedes 190D... My SJ is out of the running right now as it's in multiple pieces, but that's my first choice... second choice is my '87 XJ with 243,000 miles on it... then the 190D, then the WJ... I like visibility... the SJ has the best. One thing I do like about the WJ is the seats and that super sweet 4.7L V8. :) So I'm putting the same seats into my '83 J10 Stepside... just bought 'em last week in BC. :) heated leather seats with power lumbar... :) My SJ also has an XJ motor/trans.. shoot, if they won't build one the way I want it, I'll build my own... :) If the J10 project takes much longer I may try to find a Mercedes 3.0L turbo Diesel to install as fuel prices keep climbing... ;) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:51:07 -0800 From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Mercedes meanderings At 11:42 AM 3/17/2003 -0700, Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: >My GTV6 is not running, why is it that the cars we want to drive the most >are those we drive the least?? >- Landon yeah... I know what you mean... been waiting for over 2 years for my J10 to be reengined... I bought this '85 190D to save on fuel... but so far I've dropped about $700 in parts into it... ignition lock failed, then the injector... :) need to fix the seat and it'll be all ready... everything else appears to be fine... of course it could use a front end alignment... and that clunking could be a bad strut... more $. :( But that's what happens when you buy a car that's been sitting for a year and has 200K on the clock... but it'll be worth it at 33/44 mpg. :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:31:33 US/Central From: acordova-at-texas.net Subject: Re: Mini Cooper Meanderings > At 08:14 AM 3/17/2003 -0700, Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: > >Alfa is talking to 40 former dealers, which, I'm sure, is interesting, > >considering we can't even get a Mini Cooper dealer here in Austin. I heard that the Mini dealership in Texas thing is political. The Texas Automobile Dealership Association is miffed that BMW wouldn't let all BMW car dealers in Texas sell the X5. So they kept holding up the arrangements for Mini sales here. I saw that BMW showed a diesel Mini Cooper at Geneva Auto Show, although there were no plans to bring it to the US. That could have been fun. Alec ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:44:49 -0800 From: "Paul Schwartz" Subject: 240D OK, I just returned home with a 1980 240D. As this is my first MBZ diesel, is there anything I should do to make sure it stays running like it does now? (I bought this car from the original owner who picked it up new in Germany and he gave me all the service records for the life of the car) It's a standard tranny. I really like this car!! Paul 240D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:18:33 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: 240D very cool... normal service and original parts... the very best waxes and lubricants you can think of. I'd recommend going to synthetics, but then again I'm biased on that topic. ;) john At 11:44 AM 3/17/2003 -0800, Paul Schwartz wrote: >OK, I just returned home with a 1980 240D. As this is my first MBZ diesel, >is there anything I should do to make sure it stays running like it does >now? (I bought this car from the original owner who picked it up new in >Germany and he gave me all the service records for the life of the car) >It's a standard tranny. >I really like this car!! >Paul >240D - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:17:45 -0500 From: "Jim Hoffman" Subject: Re: 240D Welcome Paul! Sounds like you got a beauty. The achilles' heal of my 240D has been the fusebox! Damn fuses corrode over time and I just take off the cover (under the hood) and spin all the fuses a few turns and then all is well for a few months. So if something "stops working" don't panic. Check the fuses first... THEN panic ;) Jim/ '83 240D > very cool... normal service and original parts... the > very best waxes and lubricants you can think of. I'd recommend > going to synthetics, but then again I'm biased on that topic. ;) > > john > > At 11:44 AM 3/17/2003 -0800, Paul Schwartz wrote: > >OK, I just returned home with a 1980 240D. As this is my first MBZ diesel, > >is there anything I should do to make sure it stays running like it does > >now? (I bought this car from the original owner who picked it up new in > >Germany and he gave me all the service records for the life of the car) > >It's a standard tranny. > >I really like this car!! > >Paul > >240D > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- Jim Hoffman Oconomowoc WI '39 Allis Model B '53 Ford Golden Jubilee '?? Bolens Huskie Gardener ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:38:09 -0800 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: fsj: Alfa/Jeep/Volvo/Mercedes meanderings On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 10:51:07AM -0800, john wrote: > I bought this '85 190D to save on fuel... but so far I've dropped > about $700 in parts into it... ignition lock failed, then the injector... :) > need to fix the seat and it'll be all ready... everything else appears > to be fine... of course it could use a front end alignment... and that > clunking could be a bad strut... more $. :( But that's what happens > when you buy a car that's been sitting for a year and has 200K on the > clock... but it'll be worth it at 33/44 mpg. :) And this is a very valid point to not lose sight of. It takes a LOT of miles to pay for a car you bought to get better mileage. People tell me to sell the crown vic and buy a honda so I can get 35 mpg in some civic. Some quick math: Buy honda: 12000 Sell CV: -1500 Honda would end up costing just over ten grand. Add in the fuel savings: For easy math, say I get 40 mpg in the civic. I get 21.5 in the crown vic. So every two tanks in the crown vic equals one crown vic tank full of gas burned in the civic. I use roughly two 18 gallon tans in the crown vic a week driving to work, so that would be one eighteen gallon tank in the civic per week. 18 gallons at $2.25 a gallon (yup, I live in the bay area) means I save $40 per week. $40 per week for 52 weeks is just under $2100. So I've just spent $10000 to save $2000. Sounds like a bargain to me. THEN I'm also stuck driving a honda. Sure, diesel benzes cost less (well the 123s do) than a twelve grand honda (or however much a honda costs), but like John points out, he's had to plunk down extra cash up front to make it a useable car. Sure, diesel is a little cheaper than gas (1.95 a gallon here) but even still, you're lucky if you come out even. Please don't give me the biodiesel argument either :) Buy a car because you like the car. If you try to buy another car as a way of saving money in the short term, you're gonna be quite disappointed when you add up the "savings". K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:09:52 -0500 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: 240D I went to the parts store because I wanted to replace a corroded fuse. The Bus brand fuses don't come in ceramic. Instead, they are real fuses...glass tubes with a wire inside, and plated caps on either end. The caps have pointy ends that engage the Mercedes holder. Come in 8, 16, and 25 amp sizes. They work fine. We'll see if they are more reliable. Mike Frank At 03:17 PM 3/17/03, Jim Hoffman wrote: > Sounds like you got a beauty. The achilles' heal of my 240D has >been the fusebox! Damn fuses corrode over time ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #931 *********************************