From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #982 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, April 23 2003 Volume 01 : Number 982 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: 1983 300SD turbo car for sale in Connecticut Re: Blue fuel filter? RE: Blue fuel filter? Re: Blue fuel filter? Re: Blue fuel filter? Re: Blue fuel filter? Re: Blue fuel filter? RE: Blue fuel filter? Re: Blue fuel filter? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 08:47:16 -0400 From: "Damenr" Subject: 1983 300SD turbo car for sale in Connecticut I forgot to list where the car was yesterday. sorry! Hello all! I have embarked on a engine replacement and I have run out of time. I am too busy with work, family, etc. I purchased the car with a bad knock in the engine. although I was able to drive the car as it was. I knew the engine would need replacement. So I purchased a 1982 300 with a good motor and trans. I have removed the bad motor installed the other motor and started to put everything back into the car. I purchased the 1982 car from a local benz mechanic. He runs a shop nearby. The car is navy blue with tan leather interior. It has many new parts from the previous owner. including Brake and new windsheild. the car is in REALLY good condition. I wish I had the time! please email me with your interest and I can take some pictures to send to you. I will leave the price up to you because I know you never get back what is invested. Thank you, Damen you can call me at 860-978-2327 anytime. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:05:05 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? Hmmmmm, I think I will change the filter and see what happens. The attendant seemed "annoyed" that I was filling my in the truck section anyway (the nozzles fit the tank on my 300SD). The blue color reminds me of the shade of blue that 100LL is that I fill the airplane with except not as clear as the fuel filter body is not as crystal clear as my fuel tester. Speaking of fuel issues my brother is having all sorts of problems with his 1996 Nissan Maxima and getting it to pass its emissions test. Seems that there is something wrong with his fuel anti evaprotive system and god help us fuel is evaporating out of his tank. It amazes me how draconian emissions laws are and how useless they are. If your worried about fuel evaporation why not go and harass the million or so pilots that dump useful fuel on the ramp at the airport during their preflight inspections or something. This Maxima has two sensors and airflow regulators as well as a charcoal canister and special fuel cap that are designed to keep fuel from evaporating from the tank. His car is one of the first models that qualifiy for the OBD testing here and the computer seems to think something is wrong no matter what parts we replace. What a nightmare. If Bush's plan for clean diesel cars takes off and they eventually start emissions testing diesel cars that will also be a complete clusterfuck. I say we all intentionally modify our cars to belch out plumes of disgusting smoke and drive in circles around our state capitols in protest if that happens :). Robert.... Aimino, Michael wrote: >Blue diesel is on-road, tax exempt (ambulances, fire trucks, etc.). If you got >this at a truck stop, something is wrong. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:53 AM >To: Diesel Benz >Subject: Blue fuel filter? > > >Went poking about the engine compartment today and noticed my fuel >filter is blue rather than the normal clear color. Is truck diesel >colored blue or do I have some crud in my tank? > >Getting MUCH better economy on the truck diesel though and tons more >power. Its not only cheaper at the truck stops its fun being able to >fill my tank in less than 1 minute :) > >Robert. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:26:14 -0400 From: "Aimino, Michael" Subject: RE: Blue fuel filter? Yeah, I sometimes think about getting rid of my used motor oil by pumping it into my exhaust stream, post-turbo. That would make a nice fog, or maybe a flame, I'm not sure. Actually, my '83 300TD doesn't need any mods to belch copious amount of smoke - I can clear an entire freeway for 300 yards behind me with the smokescreen she'll put down on a icy cold day. I'd be curious to know the results of changing your filter - running blue fuel out of turn is generally frowned upon by our friends at the IRS, almost as much as running red. Not that I think there's any chance of you getting caught, but I think the truckers fueling up at that place would like to know, since their tanks get dipped on occasion. - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:05 AM To: Aimino, Michael Cc: Diesel Benz List (E-mail) Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? Hmmmmm, I think I will change the filter and see what happens. The attendant seemed "annoyed" that I was filling my in the truck section anyway (the nozzles fit the tank on my 300SD). The blue color reminds me of the shade of blue that 100LL is that I fill the airplane with except not as clear as the fuel filter body is not as crystal clear as my fuel tester. Speaking of fuel issues my brother is having all sorts of problems with his 1996 Nissan Maxima and getting it to pass its emissions test. Seems that there is something wrong with his fuel anti evaprotive system and god help us fuel is evaporating out of his tank. It amazes me how draconian emissions laws are and how useless they are. If your worried about fuel evaporation why not go and harass the million or so pilots that dump useful fuel on the ramp at the airport during their preflight inspections or something. This Maxima has two sensors and airflow regulators as well as a charcoal canister and special fuel cap that are designed to keep fuel from evaporating from the tank. His car is one of the first models that qualifiy for the OBD testing here and the computer seems to think something is wrong no matter what parts we replace. What a nightmare. If Bush's plan for clean diesel cars takes off and they eventually start emissions testing diesel cars that will also be a complete clusterfuck. I say we all intentionally modify our cars to belch out plumes of disgusting smoke and drive in circles around our state capitols in protest if that happens :). Robert.... Aimino, Michael wrote: >Blue diesel is on-road, tax exempt (ambulances, fire trucks, etc.). If you got >this at a truck stop, something is wrong. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:53 AM >To: Diesel Benz >Subject: Blue fuel filter? > > >Went poking about the engine compartment today and noticed my fuel >filter is blue rather than the normal clear color. Is truck diesel >colored blue or do I have some crud in my tank? > >Getting MUCH better economy on the truck diesel though and tons more >power. Its not only cheaper at the truck stops its fun being able to >fill my tank in less than 1 minute :) > >Robert. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:27:51 -0400 From: "Jim Steere" Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? > If Bush's plan for clean diesel cars takes off and they eventually start > emissions testing diesel cars that will also be a complete clusterfuck. > I say we all intentionally modify our cars to belch out plumes of > disgusting smoke and drive in circles around our state capitols in > protest if that happens :). Heh. If this happens, I can help. My (nearly finished) 300TD.....after a little "tampering" with the wastegate, pump timing, etc......smoke like a Kenworth on "kill" under load.... Runs pretty good for an old grease-burner, too. Jim > > Robert.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:29:11 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? Hmmm, I guess that brings another question to mind. What makes the larger diesels smoke like crazy where the car engines seem to run cleaner? Is it a complete lack of emissions stuff on them at all? I would think that the diesel process would be a "little" cleaner than that. Hmmm Yeah... Anybody that wants to check my fuel is always welcome as long as they bring the appropriate documents (ie search warrant). :) Robert. Aimino, Michael wrote: >Yeah, I sometimes think about getting rid of my used motor oil by pumping it >into my exhaust stream, post-turbo. That would make a nice fog, or maybe a >flame, I'm not sure. Actually, my '83 300TD doesn't need any mods to belch >copious amount of smoke - I can clear an entire freeway for 300 yards behind >me with the smokescreen she'll put down on a icy cold day. > >I'd be curious to know the results of changing your filter - running blue fuel >out of turn is generally frowned upon by our friends at the IRS, almost as >much as running red. Not that I think there's any chance of you getting >caught, but I think the truckers fueling up at that place would like to know, >since their tanks get dipped on occasion. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:05 AM >To: Aimino, Michael >Cc: Diesel Benz List (E-mail) >Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? > > >Hmmmmm, > >I think I will change the filter and see what happens. The attendant >seemed "annoyed" that I was filling my in the truck section anyway (the >nozzles fit the tank on my 300SD). The blue color reminds me of the >shade of blue that 100LL is that I fill the airplane with except not as >clear as the fuel filter body is not as crystal clear as my fuel tester. > >Speaking of fuel issues my brother is having all sorts of problems with >his 1996 Nissan Maxima and getting it to pass its emissions test. Seems >that there is something wrong with his fuel anti evaprotive system and >god help us fuel is evaporating out of his tank. It amazes me how >draconian emissions laws are and how useless they are. If your worried >about fuel evaporation why not go and harass the million or so pilots >that dump useful fuel on the ramp at the airport during their preflight >inspections or something. This Maxima has two sensors and airflow >regulators as well as a charcoal canister and special fuel cap that are >designed to keep fuel from evaporating from the tank. His car is one of >the first models that qualifiy for the OBD testing here and the computer >seems to think something is wrong no matter what parts we replace. What >a nightmare. > >If Bush's plan for clean diesel cars takes off and they eventually start >emissions testing diesel cars that will also be a complete clusterfuck. >I say we all intentionally modify our cars to belch out plumes of >disgusting smoke and drive in circles around our state capitols in >protest if that happens :). > >Robert.... > > > >Aimino, Michael wrote: > > > >>Blue diesel is on-road, tax exempt (ambulances, fire trucks, etc.). If you >> >> >got > > >>this at a truck stop, something is wrong. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >>Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:53 AM >>To: Diesel Benz >>Subject: Blue fuel filter? >> >> >>Went poking about the engine compartment today and noticed my fuel >>filter is blue rather than the normal clear color. Is truck diesel >>colored blue or do I have some crud in my tank? >> >>Getting MUCH better economy on the truck diesel though and tons more >>power. Its not only cheaper at the truck stops its fun being able to >>fill my tank in less than 1 minute :) >> >>Robert. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:50:53 -0700 From: "Paul Schwartz" Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? > Speaking of fuel issues my brother is having all sorts of problems with > his 1996 Nissan Maxima and getting it to pass its emissions test. Seems > that there is something wrong with his fuel anti evaprotive system and > god help us fuel is evaporating out of his tank. This is one reason (of many) I bought a diesel. CARB (California Air Resources Board) is instituting a new smog inspection system in Northern Calif. that will disallow about one third of all cars between 1973-1990 from operating in Calif. Diesels are exempt as are all-wheel drive cars. In about two years there are going to be a large number of rust-free cars available in the other 49 states. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 09:55:49 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? In many states the truckers pay their road taxes separate from the fuel... so if you're pumping from the trucker's pump the attendant is going to get excited because you haven't paid the road tax! I remember pulling into a truck stop in Oregon, fuel price for truckers was really cheap... auto diesel wasn't... I asked... they told me... that's probably why it was blue, the trucker had a book with a stamp in it where he paid the road tax directly... john At 10:05 AM 4/23/2003 -0400, Robert Chase wrote: >The attendant seemed "annoyed" that I was filling my in the truck section >anyway (the nozzles fit the tank on my 300SD). The blue color reminds me >of the shade of blue that 100LL is that I fill the airplane with except >not as clear as the fuel filter body is not as crystal clear as my fuel >tester. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:22:12 -0400 From: "Aimino, Michael" Subject: RE: Blue fuel filter? Some of the drivers I know admit to "tweaking" their injector pump timing, playing with the turbo boost -- you know, all the same things we do to our Benzes. Here's a guy that's got the smoke all figured out. :) http://freeautoadvice.com/diesel/smoke.html I wonder if the wife would mind if I get one of those bumper stickers? :B - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:29 AM To: Aimino, Michael Cc: Diesel Benz List (E-mail) Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? Hmmm, I guess that brings another question to mind. What makes the larger diesels smoke like crazy where the car engines seem to run cleaner? Is it a complete lack of emissions stuff on them at all? I would think that the diesel process would be a "little" cleaner than that. Hmmm Yeah... Anybody that wants to check my fuel is always welcome as long as they bring the appropriate documents (ie search warrant). :) Robert. Aimino, Michael wrote: >Yeah, I sometimes think about getting rid of my used motor oil by pumping it >into my exhaust stream, post-turbo. That would make a nice fog, or maybe a >flame, I'm not sure. Actually, my '83 300TD doesn't need any mods to belch >copious amount of smoke - I can clear an entire freeway for 300 yards behind >me with the smokescreen she'll put down on a icy cold day. > >I'd be curious to know the results of changing your filter - running blue fuel >out of turn is generally frowned upon by our friends at the IRS, almost as >much as running red. Not that I think there's any chance of you getting >caught, but I think the truckers fueling up at that place would like to know, >since their tanks get dipped on occasion. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:05 AM >To: Aimino, Michael >Cc: Diesel Benz List (E-mail) >Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? > > >Hmmmmm, > >I think I will change the filter and see what happens. The attendant >seemed "annoyed" that I was filling my in the truck section anyway (the >nozzles fit the tank on my 300SD). The blue color reminds me of the >shade of blue that 100LL is that I fill the airplane with except not as >clear as the fuel filter body is not as crystal clear as my fuel tester. > >Speaking of fuel issues my brother is having all sorts of problems with >his 1996 Nissan Maxima and getting it to pass its emissions test. Seems >that there is something wrong with his fuel anti evaprotive system and >god help us fuel is evaporating out of his tank. It amazes me how >draconian emissions laws are and how useless they are. If your worried >about fuel evaporation why not go and harass the million or so pilots >that dump useful fuel on the ramp at the airport during their preflight >inspections or something. This Maxima has two sensors and airflow >regulators as well as a charcoal canister and special fuel cap that are >designed to keep fuel from evaporating from the tank. His car is one of >the first models that qualifiy for the OBD testing here and the computer >seems to think something is wrong no matter what parts we replace. What >a nightmare. > >If Bush's plan for clean diesel cars takes off and they eventually start >emissions testing diesel cars that will also be a complete clusterfuck. >I say we all intentionally modify our cars to belch out plumes of >disgusting smoke and drive in circles around our state capitols in >protest if that happens :). > >Robert.... > > > >Aimino, Michael wrote: > > > >>Blue diesel is on-road, tax exempt (ambulances, fire trucks, etc.). If you >> >> >got > > >>this at a truck stop, something is wrong. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert Chase [mailto:beostar-at-sdf.lonestar.org] >>Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:53 AM >>To: Diesel Benz >>Subject: Blue fuel filter? >> >> >>Went poking about the engine compartment today and noticed my fuel >>filter is blue rather than the normal clear color. Is truck diesel >>colored blue or do I have some crud in my tank? >> >>Getting MUCH better economy on the truck diesel though and tons more >>power. Its not only cheaper at the truck stops its fun being able to >>fill my tank in less than 1 minute :) >> >>Robert. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:22:11 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Blue fuel filter? out here on the west coast we have card lock pumps... so I can get the same fuel as the big boys... :) Pacific Pride is the one I use. It's primarily for business users only, but if you have a tax id and a business name they'll let you sign up. :) less hassle too, no credit cards, pump jockeys and if I'm in Oregon no one trying to fill my tank for me... (Oregon doesn't allow people to fill their own fuel tanks!!!) john At 02:14 PM 4/23/2003 -0400, Robert Chase wrote: >All im interested in is the good diesel fuel. If its pumped from the same >tank Ill be a good boy and pump it from the little pumps. The truck stuff >is great! Im going to fill up at this station from now on! > >Robert. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #982 *********************************