From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1012 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, May 11 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1012 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: Air filter recommendation? Re: Air filter recommendation? Re: Air filter recommendation? Re: Air filter recommendation? Magic Sunroof book a/c - n - alarm systems Re: a/c - n - alarm systems mad scientist loose in snohomish... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:26:13 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: Air filter recommendation? There must be at least one application where K&N is appropriate, but it's probably not on a diesel Benz street car. Look at the size of your original equipment air filter. Your motor does not have any problems getting all the air it wants through that thing, as long as it's reasonably clean. Rusty has Bosch, Hengst, and Mann air filters for 9 to 13 bucks for an 81 240D. Buy an air filter, a couple of oil filters (so you'll have them ahead of time), and maybe a fuel filter or two from him, and make your car happy. http://www.buymbparts.com My orders from him usually arrive within 2 or 3 days. Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 157K > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Paul Brown > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 9:16 AM > To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: Air filter recommendation? > > > Can someone help me separate the hype from the useful information in > selecting an air filter for my 240D? What do y'all use in your Benz? > Do I go the Fram or Purolator route, or is there something to K&N's > claims to be the "best" (albeit fragile) filter available? For what its > worth, there does not appear to be an Amsoil filter for this application. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:29:28 -0700 From: "Paul Schwartz" Subject: Re: Air filter recommendation? I use Purolator air filters in my 240D. Mostly because that's what my local Napa parts store carries. I do not use Purolator oil and fuel filters. Those I buy from Rusty (www.mbz.org). I think the brand I buy is Mann. I think air filters are more generic than fuel and oil filters; I learned that on my Audi. Apparently, the Fram oil filters, and most American made oil filters, don't have anti-back flow valves and my Audi's lifters would be dry when I started the engine in the morning. I changed to Bosch oil filters and that problem went away. If your motor has a lot of blow by and you need to change the filter more often, one of those reusable filters might have value. Too much hassle if there's not much oil being thrown into the filter IMHO, unless you live in a dusty clime. BTW--the Amsoil folks say their coolant is not approved in MBZ diesels. Paul > Can someone help me separate the hype from the useful information in > selecting an air filter for my 240D? What do y'all use in your Benz? > Do I go the Fram or Purolator route, or is there something to K&N's > claims to be the "best" (albeit fragile) filter available? For what its > worth, there does not appear to be an Amsoil filter for this application. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:28:13 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Air filter recommendation? At 10:15 AM 5/9/2003 -0400, Paul Brown wrote: >Can someone help me separate the hype from the useful information in >selecting an air filter for my 240D? What do y'all use in your Benz? Do >I go the Fram or Purolator route, or is there something to K&N's claims to >be the "best" (albeit fragile) filter available? For what its worth, >there does not appear to be an Amsoil filter for this application. Unfortunately you may be right... There isn't one available for my 190D either, but what I was able to do is use, believe it or not, a 1997 Jeep Wrangler's planar filter and bend over a few inches and it fit and is working... On my other Diesel Benz's with the round filter I found one close in diameter and height. IF I remember right the 240D is a tall round one, right? Email the fram number or dimensions and I'll see what I can find in the cross reference books, might be able to get close. The K&N would be ok in a dust-free environment, but they are a pain to clean and don't filter very well, and they're way expensive too... Whenever I've ended up with a K&N I wrapped amsoil filter material around it and used it that way. :) I suppose you could find foam from like a lawn mower shop to cover one... if they have it in bulk, then just lightly oil it and voila... :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-2.jpg SJ Jeeps: 360/401: TS-23 258: TS-12 retail $21.50 XJ Jeeps: 4.0L/2.5L('87 and up): TS-29 retail $29.95 WJ Jeeps: 4.7L: TS-104 retail $47.50 DieselBenz: typical S1118 or S1680 retail $32.50 or $39.85 http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/ order 1-800-956-5695 cust# 283461 Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:30:50 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: Air filter recommendation? At 08:29 AM 5/9/2003 -0700, Paul Schwartz wrote: >BTW--the Amsoil folks say their coolant is not approved in MBZ diesels. >Paul did you call the engineers? or just talk to a dealer? From what I could figure out, and what the guy I work with could, it looks fine, also the mechanic I worked with looked at the stuff and read all the fine print and felt it was ok too... so were they referring to a statement from mercedes or was there a technical reason that we shouldn't use it? :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 17:09:42 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Magic Sunroof book Just got my "magic sunroof book" from mbsource.com. It was full of helpful information and I was all ready to work on the sunroof problem until I saw where my motor and clutch were mounted. They are all in the trunk but on the S class the motor and transmisson are mounted behind a structural member. Not exactly straight forward. I think my clutch assembly is gone anyway because I hear gears stripping. Im going to bring the book and supplies to my mechanic and have them deal with it. Speaking of which I better get my car to the mechanic soon because quite honestly the temptation to put a big for sale sign on the window is creaping into my thoughts. I have been shopping for a "second car" and quite honestly if my car continues to deteriorate it may be my "next car" :) Robert. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 20:59:11 -0700 From: john Subject: a/c - n - alarm systems just pulled the dash apart on my 190D to see if I could find out why the a/c wasn't switching on... Thank you Mr. Frank, amazing how easy that thing came apart once I found those two screws under the vents and the two on the sides... :) Man what a rats nest. no, not a real rats nest, the kind two-legged rats leave. ;) Whoever installed this Sony stereo and alarm systems must have planned on allowing someone to pull it from the dash and operate them from the back seat. :) Turns out that I did pull an alarm system out of this thing, but not the one that actually worked... dropped the lower panel on the passenger side and voila... there was another system... so I grabbed the remote that was sitting with the other system, and it worked... rofl... was thinking that since I may be working in Seattle that I'd want to put the alarm back in. Got the fresh air recycler thing to work, but still no compressor engaging... need to find the wiring diagram and see why... I'm wondering if I could just ran a manual switch to the compressor... wait... the climate control module should control this thing... oh well, guess I'll have to get some help on this thing... BTW, it looks like I'll be acquiring a wrecked '79 300CD. :) Need front end parts, anyone have spare parts laying around? We'll see how this goes... :) later, john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 07:05:28 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: a/c - n - alarm systems Compressor not engaging....there are two switches on your receiver drier....one is a pressure switch, it turns off the compressor when the freon level is too low, the other is a temperature switch, which regulates the temperature of the working fluid by turning the compressor on and off. Either could be defective. Try shorting them out. There is a speed sensor on the rear of the compressor, it works with a brain box located on the left inner fender. The speed of the compressor is compared to the speed of the motor, and the clutch will be disengaged if they differ...the idea is to prevent a seized compressor from tearing up the serpentine belt (which would leave you by the side of the road). Either the speed sensor or the brain box could be defective. There's a fuse hidden inside the dashboard push button control unit. It goes on and on. This is a very complex setup! Hereis a link that might help:http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_stevebfl_0.htm There's a guy on E-Bay who sells bootleg copies of the CD-ROM for $10. It's a worthwhile investment.... Mike Frank At 11:59 PM 5/9/03, john wrote: >Got the fresh air recycler thing to work, but still no >compressor engaging... need to find the wiring diagram >and see why... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 11:41:49 -0700 From: john Subject: mad scientist loose in snohomish... Dr. Frankenstein here... another idea... looks like I'm getting a wrecked '79 300CD... and may buy an '84 300CD that needs some TLC... I figure to fix both cars and decide with one of the three I'll keep as my daily driver (the '85 190D, the '79 300CD or the '84 300CD). The '79 and the 190D are both my favorite color, and if I fix either up nice enough my wife may claim one. We've got to sell the '99 WJ, soon... :( Anyway, my question is this. WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES between the '79 300CD and the '84 300CD. I'm thinking of pulling the engine out of the '84 and rebuilding it, and then putting it into the '79. So, question is... will the transmission on the '79 work ok with the '84 TD engine or should I yard both tranny and engine and swap even the rear axle units (I think the gearing is different too). The '84 300CD body isn't as nice as the '79 and I may even do an engine swap into the '84 with something "exotic"... maybe... have to figure if it'd sell with a V8 conversion or something similarly stupid. ;) There is the issue of putting the non-turbo back into the '84, immediately devalues the car to a purist... but with fuel prices and the economy the way they are I shouldn't have any trouble selling a running economy car like that to someone. So getting rid of the remains shouldn't be a big problem, hope to break even on that unit. Are there other issues related to swapping the drivelines that I need to be concerned with? I think the climate control on the '79 is simpler, and I'll leave it in place. ;) All body parts should interchange, right? Another crazy thought is to put the '84 body on a 4x4 chassis... rofl... and then use the non-turbo in my XJ... or should I put the turbo in my Xj and just keep the '79 stock... Fuel economy would be better with the turbo in the '79, right? :) decisions, decisions... but mostly dreams... First step is to assess what body parts and other essentials are needed to get the '79 back together... will need at the least a new radiator, left front fender, hood, grille and maybe front core support... time to buy that hydraulic ram setup I guess... ;) Hopefully all my labors will earn at least one mortgage payment... ;) going into survival mode... and having some fun at it... I hope... ;) john - ----------------------------------------------------- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - - 67 J100 Panel (SJ) - 83 J10 Stepside - superdawg (SJ) - 99 grand cherokee (WJ) (for sale) - '87 Cherokee (XJ) (243,000 miles) '75 J10 trailer http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/J10-trailer/ '85 190D http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/190D/ john-at-wagoneers.com jesus, don't leave life without him, please! 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