From: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net (diesel-benz-digest) To: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1067 Reply-To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Sender: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Errors-To: owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Precedence: bulk diesel-benz-digest Sunday, June 15 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1067 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: Diesel VWs RE: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 Re: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 lamentations and glow plugs Re: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 got the tranny in the 190D put in Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:02:32 CDT From: acordova-at-texas.net Subject: Re: Diesel VWs > Only 14 bolts hold an econoline to the frame. > > K > I can easily envision that quote accompanied by a Dr. Evil pinky-to-the-corner- of-the-mouth gesture. Looks like we have a serious horse race going on for the Dr. Frankendiesel title, even if it is just an honorary degree. Alec, making myself laugh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:59:17 -0500 From: "Black, Waylon" Subject: RE: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 John, get your Jeep from Europe! Wow 138HP/283 lb ft of torque! http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:zt4688tcYCIJ:www.autonutz.com/jeep/stor y8.htm+detroit+diesel+Chrysler+VM+Motori&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Recently, in order to prove the fuel economy capabilities of this new engine, an attempt was made to drive a standard Grand Cherokee 3.1 TD from Dover to Cape Wrath, Scotland using a single tank of fuel. The Grand Cherokee fell short of its final destination by just 17 miles. In the process, driver John Taylor achieved an impressive 43 miles per gallon and covered almost 750 miles on that single tank of diesel fuel. Waylon - -----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:30 PM To: Kevin Pekarek Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: Re: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Kevin Pekarek wrote: >-->she doesn't like the new XJ? sounds like you're in the market for a WJ :) yep. >-->yeah, but like I told you, you could go in there and own the place. people >-->don't expect config mgrs to know unix, which is unfortunate, cause they should. >-->hope the political BS goes away though. well, they require windoze too... pretty typical >-->> oh well, life is tough all over... ;) >-->that it is. oddly enough, there are signs things are turning around. US Dept of >-->Commerce reports a rise in retail sales that hasn't happened in a while, and >-->the first tech IPO of the year happened yesterday. And people were buying the >-->stock too. yeah, I'm hoping to find something closer... >-->*cough* keep the 190D *cough* :) we'll see... :) john >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 22:13:10 -0400 From: Robert Chase Subject: Re: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 See my response below :) john wrote: >On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Kevin Pekarek wrote: > > > >>-->she doesn't like the new XJ? sounds like you're in the market for a WJ :) >> >> > >yep. > > > >>-->yeah, but like I told you, you could go in there and own the place. people >>-->don't expect config mgrs to know unix, which is unfortunate, cause they should. >>-->hope the political BS goes away though. >> >> > >well, they require windoze too... pretty typical > I got a call from a recruiter looking for someone with experience on a Silicon Graphics Onyx II but the company turned me down because I dont have any experience using Microsoft Visio. The recruiter actually knew a little bit about technology and was horrified when they picked the other candidate "she just threw in" that had a little experience on a linux box and knew Visio. Its really unfortunate when companies dont understand their own technology. How many System Administrators of one of the worlds most powerful Visual Supercomputer platforms is going to be doing office like work on a windows machine all day? It will be funny when "the learning curve" starts going in and they suddenly have to replace a few 20k+ node boards because their system administrator did not know what he/she was doing and touched one of the comression connectors with his bare hands. I had to stop myself from giving their onsite SGI rep a call to "let him know what to watch out for" ahead of time so they would have charged them for every damaged component on the system they try to get paid for under warranty. > > > >>-->> oh well, life is tough all over... ;) >>-->that it is. oddly enough, there are signs things are turning around. US Dept of >>-->Commerce reports a rise in retail sales that hasn't happened in a while, and >>-->the first tech IPO of the year happened yesterday. And people were buying the >>-->stock too. >> >> > >yeah, I'm hoping to find something closer... > > > >>-->*cough* keep the 190D *cough* :) >> >> > >we'll see... :) > >john > > >>--> >> >> > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:51:27 -0700 From: john Subject: lamentations and glow plugs At 10:13 PM 6/13/2003 -0400, Robert Chase wrote: >>well, they require windoze too... pretty typical >I got a call from a recruiter looking for someone with experience on a >Silicon Graphics Onyx II but the company turned me down because I dont >have any experience using Microsoft Visio. yeah... some of the HR folks are clueless, but then again, so are the managers sometimes.... on a "brighter" note... got my 190D back, turns out the problem with the glow plugs was the glow plugs were burned out... hmmm... interesting, they worked when I put the car in the shop, worked not when I got it back... they worked on the wiring... I wonder if leaving the key on could toast 'em... anyway, they only charged me for the parts, not labor... considering how hard it is to get hands in the 201... that was quite nice. :) john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:08:04 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: diesel-benz-digest V1 #1065 At 02:43 PM 6/13/2003 -0700, Kevin Pekarek wrote: >I agree with Derick though... once he gets that car sorted, he'll like it. >w201 diesels are contagious :) yeah... the little rascal is starting to grow on me... especially after driving two rough riding Jeeps the last couple of days... :) driving it back from the shop was enjoyable... :) still, a nice early '90's 124 series does have a very strong appeal right now... I wish I'd had my camera with me that day... first time I left home without it in years... john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 18:36:31 -0700 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: got the tranny in the 190D put in Got the spare tranny I picked up in washington put into the 190D today out in patterson, then drove the 100 miles back to redwood city. Actually went a lot easier than I was planning... I had my ecclectic car mechanic (who has dabbled in mercedeses a while back) swap the tranny while I sat on the couch in his shop, drinking beer, watching him so I'd have an idea if I ever had to do this again, and reading some ham radio books. I decided that since the T-18 is on my tranny jack waiting to go in the 74 cherokee, and my metric tools are in the motorhome that I'm putting back together (do NOT get me started about an 85 chevy big block needing -at-!#^#$% metric tools), that it wasn't going to happen for a while unless I got it done. Second gear started grinding earlier this week, and the ratcheting in first, second and third were getting worse, so I decided it wasn't worth just getting around to it eventually. Oddly enough, once the tranny was dropped, inspection showed that someone recently did a clutch swap. Flywheel was resurfaced (and not with sandpaper), pilot bearing spun free like it was new, and everything was CLEAN. Usually, a car with 175k+ on it will have some clutch dust hanging out in that area, but there was barely any dust stuck to the greasy fingerprints of whomever installed the stuff , much less anywhere else. Very cool. Putting the two trannies next to each other displayed something interesting: the tranny that came out of the car was NOT the same as the one that was going in. The tranny from the boneyard in washington was a little bigger, had a beefier vibration damper attached to it, and just seemed like a beefier unit altogether. Holes matched up, so in it went. The tranny mount didn't fit on the new tranny, so the old one had to be reused, and the old slave cyl was reused because it worked and the one on the new tranny was leaking. Took the car out for a spin, and - no ratcheting in gears - THE SPEEDOMETER WORKS (woohoo) - the shifting was MUCH smoother than before - the gear ratio was slightly different - this one had a slightly wider gear set, and the 4->5 difference was much more in line with the spacing of the other gears, which was a pleasant surprise. 5th also seems higher (numerically lower), which will be useful haulin butt down the freeway - did I mention the SPEEDO WORKS? :) I'll probably get someone to follow me in the cop car to tell me how accurate the speedometer is, but at least I'm not guessing blind anymore. :) It is somewhat funny, the new tranny seems much more matched to the engine's powerband than the old one. Still have a leaky pinion seal, the e-brakes to hook up, and a RR window to figure out why it isn't working, but that stuff's minor :) Hope everyone else's weekend is going well too... K - -- Kevin Pekarek Redwood City, CA (near San Francisco) and Los Osos, CA (near San Luis Obispo) 85 190D (2.2, 5spd) ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #1067 **********************************